I personally do not think secretly kidnapping Shero's favorite dog and forcing him to trade Crosby + Sutter to us in exchange for Marleau and Boyle to be extra stupid.
Rumor: DW in panic mode; Clowe Available (Murray and Handzus Gone)
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I personally do not think secretly kidnapping Shero's favorite dog and forcing him to trade Crosby + Sutter to us in exchange for Marleau and Boyle to be extra stupid.
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Not sure if I should post this here or the Trade Targets thread but Brenden Morrow (about even with Clowe) was just traded for Joseph Morrow, this makes me think that Clowe's value could be that of a first round pick or even slightly better.
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If Clowe was healthy, I think that the Morrow trade would set that type of benchmark. However, I just don't think Clowe is going to get much when he's injured and a UFA.
OldAsianSharksFan
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I would've accepted Morrow + 3rd for Clowe.
I highly doubt we'll be able to keep him unless he wants to take a pay cut.
ChompChomp
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DW messed up when he traded setoguchi...that was all our secondary scoring. ALL of it.
DW messed up when he thought this was the guy to get the most out of his talented roster:
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He's supposed to be back tomorrow. He's not 'injured' officially anymore. Clowe's problems are primarily in his head, even if he is playing injured.
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DW messed up when he thought this was the guy to get the most out of his talented roster:
We won the Presidents Trophy with this guy .. awkward.
It only took four years for the guy to go from that healthy brown hair to all the gray he got now. lol
SJSharksfan39
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Screw trades get this guy. I want to be entertained.
I was thinking about this today. Why not go after Guy Buchear (SP?). Is his system worse than the Sharks? Aren't the bolts stuck with injuries and that's why they aren't doing well? Weren't they in the playoffs for 2-3 straight seasons with productive and exciting scoring from the likes of Stamkos, LeCavilier, and St. Louis?
Or we can forget all that and enjoy having a great bond villian on the team. His passion on the bench (Via his faces which the Puck Daddy Blog had a great article on today by the way) is a lot better than TMac's.
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No, but it did feel like an outlier compared to all the other games I did see. One game doesn't really say much other than either Philly or Tampa were acting like complete douches during that game.
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In San Jose it's never the players fault and TMac is the only reason they lose. He makes them glide on the ice and throw lazy backhand passes to no one. I thought everyone knew that!
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The meme is that his system worked for 1 year regular season only, and after that has been a complete trainwreck as soon as teams learned "oh wait, they only play a perimeter game? LOL".
Anaheim destroyed it in that first season playoffs.
The next couple seasons, playoff teams caught on but not the bottom-feeders.
Last year, the middle of the packers caught on.
And this year, even the bottom-feeders mock it.
And now, based only on observations of Thornton's play, I think he's checked out. He's sacrificed a lot of his offensive game to play a more complete 2-way game and it hasn't worked for him. TM also designed the system around JT, but I still think JT's just done with the current setup.
Which is why a move to an interim coach makes so much sense if management wants to make the playoffs. Trading young assets away now to try and push for a 1-and-done playoffs would be a "fire me" move, when you could get better results from an interim coach change (IMO).
Anaheim destroyed it in that first season playoffs.
The next couple seasons, playoff teams caught on but not the bottom-feeders.
Last year, the middle of the packers caught on.
And this year, even the bottom-feeders mock it.
And now, based only on observations of Thornton's play, I think he's checked out. He's sacrificed a lot of his offensive game to play a more complete 2-way game and it hasn't worked for him. TM also designed the system around JT, but I still think JT's just done with the current setup.
Which is why a move to an interim coach makes so much sense if management wants to make the playoffs. Trading young assets away now to try and push for a 1-and-done playoffs would be a "fire me" move, when you could get better results from an interim coach change (IMO).
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No responsibility for the good times, blame for all the bad. Posts like these are keeping entertained at least
Seriously, the selective memory here is hilarious.
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It is. How the players escape blame except for scapegoats is hilarious too. Yeah its all Clowe and Burish and Murray's fault this team is losing
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So back to back conference finals with a d-corps that consisted of Kent Huskins and Nic Wallin means playoff teams figured out the Sharks? The Anaheim series they lost because they got nothing from Pavelski(supposed clutch playoff performer), Michalek, Clowe and Setoguchi. Joe and Patty were the only ones scoring and were tagged with the blame.
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From what we know I see a couple scenarios as possible:
1) McLellan believes this is a personnel problem. Inferred by his comments about this team being unable to compete in a 'track-meet' game, implying he would prefer to play a faster system but doesn't have the tools. Doug Wilson agrees with McLellan, will not fire him, but will make major roster changes to solve this.
2) Doug Wilson does not agree with McLellan that this is a personnel problem (entirely) and will fire Todd and find a coach who can play a system he feels this team should play. Will make minor roster changes.
3) It is almost entirely irrelevant what either of them think because Plattner plans to fire both and start anew and there really isn't much either of them can do to stop that (aside from winning a cup). This is a dangerous one because if Wilson/McLellan are aware of this, they have to be either in desperation mode or giving up. Wilson could make STUPID deadline moves to attempt to save his job, or do nothing at all because he knows he's being fired anyway, letting valuable assets like Clowe and Murray walk in the off-season (either way). If Plattner is planning on firing DW he really should just do it now and get a new GM in for the deadline. If he isn't going to fire Wilson than Wilson should fire Todd ASAP and trade any assets he can for as much value as possible.
1) McLellan believes this is a personnel problem. Inferred by his comments about this team being unable to compete in a 'track-meet' game, implying he would prefer to play a faster system but doesn't have the tools. Doug Wilson agrees with McLellan, will not fire him, but will make major roster changes to solve this.
2) Doug Wilson does not agree with McLellan that this is a personnel problem (entirely) and will fire Todd and find a coach who can play a system he feels this team should play. Will make minor roster changes.
3) It is almost entirely irrelevant what either of them think because Plattner plans to fire both and start anew and there really isn't much either of them can do to stop that (aside from winning a cup). This is a dangerous one because if Wilson/McLellan are aware of this, they have to be either in desperation mode or giving up. Wilson could make STUPID deadline moves to attempt to save his job, or do nothing at all because he knows he's being fired anyway, letting valuable assets like Clowe and Murray walk in the off-season (either way). If Plattner is planning on firing DW he really should just do it now and get a new GM in for the deadline. If he isn't going to fire Wilson than Wilson should fire Todd ASAP and trade any assets he can for as much value as possible.
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