Proposal: Ducks - Habs

Zorro

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This is terrible for the habs based on needs.

In a vacuum? It's still horrendous, if you take into account current play.
 

Leon Lucius Black

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Pacioretty is not only a perennial 30 goal scorer, he's on a $4.5 million deal for three more years which makes his trade value even greater, especially for a budget team like Anaheim.
 

HabsTown

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That's awful for Habs.

I love Lindholm, but we can't give 60 goals for only a combined 8M cap hit to add Lindholm. How do we replace that? This is not going to happen.

Still, Lindholm's a stud and I'd be willing for a basis of Pacioretty & him. I'm willing to lose Patche's 30g but Galchenyuk is a non-starter.


As a hockey fan, gosh I'd like to see Patche-Getzlaf-Perry as a line !
 

bleuetbio

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Galchenyuk=Lindholm
Pacioretty>>>>>>>Rakell

pls close

Pretty close to this! Im a bit hotter on Galchenyuk than Lindholm but Im not the fan on the team with Perry and Getzlaf

Even I think that Rackell is the Ducks solution for the LW spot on the 1st, I think its silly to think that his value is close of MaxPac.
 

Number1RedWingsFan52

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While I fully expect Ducks end up signing their pair of Swedish RFAs, just for discussion:

MaxPac
Galchenyuk

for

Lindholm
Rakell


Ducks gain a true first line FW who (other than last year) plays with some physicality and obv has a knack for scoring. If the change of scenery does him well, him-Getz-Perry could easily be one of the top lines in the NHL. He's also on a bargain contract for a few more seasons.

Chucky adds a true #1 Potential C to the Ducks, who don't currently have that in the pipeline IMO for when Getz starts to slow down.

Lindholm is a huge loss, but the D still has solid depth on the left side with Fowler and Theodore for the Top4.


Montreal, definitely downgrades up front, but hope Radulov replaces a lot of MaxPac's offense while making their D core one of the better units; both pieces added are young and work for the future. Rakell isn't Galchenyuk, but he can def fill a 2nd line role and in the East, I feel he will only continue to improve and have room for his creativity.

I thought Montreal needed more help in the top 6, Trading your best Center in Galchenyuk and your best LW in MaxPac and adding Rakell who's a downgrade compared to both and adding Lindhom makes zero sense You're strengthening the D here but downgrading the offense just doesn't make to much sense here. Galchenyuk will most likely get a big raise next year plus MaxPac just don't see how Anaheim can afford to add both. Plus losing Lindholm would be a downgrade for the Ducks Anaheim would be better off moving Fowler instead.
 

G0bias

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Besides the fact Habs just drafted a LD in Sergachev at 9th overall, this trade decimates their entire offense for an improvement on D that's not sorely needed.
 

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Lindholm won't be traded end of story. We have no one to replace his caliber of a player on the entire team regarding defense. Absolutely not trading Lindholm
 

HuGo Sham

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no flame war needed. Terrific players all. Habs can't lose their franchise winger and centre. End of story. Hopefully Sergachev becomes lindhom. Trade doesn't work for Mtl
 

GhostOfWildWing

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To everyone saying Ducks won't trade Lindholm/Rakell, I apologize my first line of the OP wasn't clear enough perhaps...while I said I fully expect both Swedes to re-sign, the entire proposal is based on GMBM getting fed up and not reaching common ground, and thus trading them as a pair.

So, please, no need for "Lindholm isn't moving" - the point of the thread is discussion.

However, seems like it does directly affect Montreal's offense too greatly and they feel the value from Ducks isn't enough...which I can see.
 

Corky

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Jesus, Lindholm seriously getting overrated on these boards...

Not saying he's bad, but he is not a superstar.
 

jellybeans

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While I fully expect Ducks end up signing their pair of Swedish RFAs, just for discussion:

MaxPac
Galchenyuk

for

Lindholm
Rakell


Ducks gain a true first line FW who (other than last year) plays with some physicality and obv has a knack for scoring. If the change of scenery does him well, him-Getz-Perry could easily be one of the top lines in the NHL. He's also on a bargain contract for a few more seasons.

Chucky adds a true #1 Potential C to the Ducks, who don't currently have that in the pipeline IMO for when Getz starts to slow down.

Lindholm is a huge loss, but the D still has solid depth on the left side with Fowler and Theodore for the Top4.


Montreal, definitely downgrades up front, but hope Radulov replaces a lot of MaxPac's offense while making their D core one of the better units; both pieces added are young and work for the future. Rakell isn't Galchenyuk, but he can def fill a 2nd line role and in the East, I feel he will only continue to improve and have room for his creativity.


What kind of drugs are you on horrible trade for the Habs.
 

xxreact9

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Horrible for the habs, no thx

Uhm.. No. Habs would be getting far and away the most valuable player in the deal. A #1 franchise defender under RFA control.

The difference between Galchenyuk and Rakell is nowhere near as large as you're assuming. He outscored him by 13 points while playing 10 more games last season. Most importantly, Rakell was used in a 3rd line role and barely saw any PP time. All things considered, the gap in production is hardly significant.
 

Brock Radunske

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I hope the Ducks are buying 40 goal Patches and not that ghost I've been watching in the world cup...
 

xxreact9

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Jesus, Lindholm seriously getting overrated on these boards...

Not saying he's bad, but he is not a superstar.

What are you basing this off? Statistically he is undeniably a top-10 defender in the league already at age 22. Ducks fans who watch him every night will concur.

What are you seeing and observing that everyone else appears to be missing? Have you iso'cammed every shift of his and found a ground breaking theory for as to why he's able to put up ELITE statistics and possession metrics but remain a non-elite player? Enlighten us.
 

Kobe Armstrong

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Pacioretty for Lindholm straight up is a deal I would definitely make though, I'm not sure how far off the value is for the Ducks. Would be great if the Ducks could add a small + somehow, though.

Radulov-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Plekanec-Shaw
Carr-DD/McCarron-Andrighetto
Danault-Mitchell-Byron

Lindholm-Weber(Captain)
Markov-Petry
Beaulieu-Pateryn/Sergachev/Redmond

would be more ideal that what we have now, if you ask me. We'd be set for the next decade with Lindholm and Sergachev, especially with Weber there to mentor them.

And for the Ducks, Pacioretty-Getzlaf-Perry would be the best line in the league. Also Pacioretty is a good leader, and signed for 3 more seasons at 4.5 a year.
 

Goose of Reason

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What are you basing this off? Statistically he is undeniably a top-10 defender in the league already at age 22. Ducks fans who watch him every night will concur.

What are you seeing and observing that everyone else appears to be missing? Have you iso'cammed every shift of his and found a ground breaking theory for as to why he's able to put up ELITE statistics and possession metrics but remain a non-elite player? Enlighten us.

As a Duck fan that watches him every night I don't concur with that first paragraph. Hampus is very talented and has that potential but he hasn't yet played at that level consistently.
 

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