Confirmed with Link: Ducks extend Frank Vatrano (3 years, $4.57M AAV + deferred salary

[LuGBuG]

Are they the Crash The Pond guys? I've tried listening to that podcast and they're awful.

I don’t mind them I listen sometimes. What would be the best Ducks podcast out there?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Frank Vatrano is the kind of guy who still keeps playing hard after a new contract extension the same way Cogliano did. Those are the kind of guys you extend.
One has better hands, the other has better defense awareness.

 

[ScarTroy]

I don’t mind them I listen sometimes. What would be the best Ducks podcast out there?

None, and that’s a problem. Either they post often but are awful, or rarely post to where you’ve moved on from the majority of their taking points each episode.

 

[MMC]

 

[MMC]

 

[MMC]

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

I think Trouba gets a similar deal next year, maybe even with deferrals. He's going to take a pay cut for sure.

I like this deal for the Ducks. I thought Vatrano could/would get a 4-5 year deal as a UFA. Glad the ducks didn't do that. And the AAV is largely irrelevant for the next 3 years.

I don’t know if Trouba would be one to go for deferred money. With Frank it’s pretty clear he’s gonna be here for three years, maybe more after that, but when he’s retired he plans on living elsewhere. Don’t know if you can say the same about Trouba, he might be a Californian for life and if he is then deferred money doesn’t make sense.

 

[shach1]

I don’t know if Trouba would be one to go for deferred money. With Frank it’s pretty clear he’s gonna be here for three years, maybe more after that, but when he’s retired he plans on living elsewhere. Don’t know if you can say the same about Trouba, he might be a Californian for life and if he is then deferred money doesn’t make sense.

Just saw you were from Saskatoon. We took our RV up there in September of 2022. We were allowed to go into the SaskTel Center and I got a Blades sweatshirt that Sidorov signed for me at Development Camp.

 

[MMC]

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

What does that tell about cronin?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Jake and Felix have 1500 YouTube subscribers, after almost a decade of doing a show. If they weren’t so firmly opinionated and overly loud about it on Twitter and consistently trying to show why they feel they’re right. They would have a lot more to show for their efforts as far as subs go.Although I think they would rather have a bunch of mini Felix Jake’s who echo their sentiment than a larger more diverse audience honestly. I’m ducks starved, so I’m definitely a subscriber. I appreciate them even though I think they shoot themsleves in the feet.

I like when they bring on guests from scouting media like EP's Mitch Brown. Brown sets them straight on a lot of things, but the problem is the CTP guys go right back to who they were after the interview is done. I've seen Derek Lee on their show once, but he's too soft spoken and agreeable to the CTP guys. Lee cannot do podcasts being that soft spoken.

Because there is less Ducks' content is probably why I dabble a lot on excel to find patterns or no patterns. I make my own content and share it on here. Like Vatrano-Mac-Strome was a great thing to start the season last year.

 

[SmokeyDuck]

What does that tell about cronin?

Spitting Chiclets in shambles. I wonder if this is in response to them saying the ducks have the worst locker room in the NHL.

 

[duckpuck]

I don’t know if Trouba would be one to go for deferred money. With Frank it’s pretty clear he’s gonna be here for three years, maybe more after that, but when he’s retired he plans on living elsewhere. Don’t know if you can say the same about Trouba, he might be a Californian for life and if he is then deferred money doesn’t make sense.

It just depends on how much the deferral is. He and his wife are both from Michigan . . . who knows where they want to live.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

It just depends on how much the deferral is. He and his wife are both from Michigan . . . who knows where they want to live.

Any deferral is typically not great for the player, it’s why I don’t think this is going to be a major trend, and you’re right we don’t really know(although you can take a pretty decent guess) but I’m just saying he’s a bit different from most players. A big part of the reason he chose Anaheim was because of his wife’s career which is what’s going to dictate their lives once he’s done playing. But you’re right, who knows.

Just saw you were from Saskatoon. We took our RV up there in September of 2022. We were allowed to go into the SaskTel Center and I got a Blades sweatshirt that Sidorov signed for me at Development Camp.

That’s awesome, it’s a great city, hope you enjoyed your time here.

 

[mightyquack]

This is the sort of stuff I was expecting to see from Verbeek as a supposed innovative and forward thinking GM. Want to see more of that.

Having Vatrano for 3 years at the new AAV is a great deal.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Any deferral is typically not great for the player, it’s why I don’t think this is going to be a major trend, and you’re right we don’t really know(although you can take a pretty decent guess) but I’m just saying he’s a bit different from most players. A big part of the reason he chose Anaheim was because of his wife’s career which is what’s going to dictate their lives once he’s done playing. But you’re right, who knows.


That’s awesome, it’s a great city, hope you enjoyed your time here.

Never noticed before but seems the Ducks have a lot of fans from Saskatchewan.
Kunitz, Moen and Getzlaf probably helped with that over the years.
I remember reading that Moen once appeared on a Canadian tv show set in Saskatchewan called 'Corner Gas' after the Ducks won the cup.

 

[All Mighty]

Vatrano says part of the reason he took the deferred money was to help our cap situation:

This is a pretty big deal as it could help set a precedent for other players on the team to do the same.

 

[StreetHawk]

But are the ducks really in need of that $1.4 mill of cap space over the next 3 seasons?
It’s not a big deal to the Ducks aside from having that Liability sit on their B/S for the next 10 to 20 years. If that is what he really wanted to do, they were certainly fine in setting up the contract that way.

 

[All Mighty]

But are the ducks really in need of that $1.4 mill of cap space over the next 3 seasons?

Maybe, maybe not. But I’d prefer to have it available than not.

 

[Gliff]

But are the ducks really in need of that $1.4 mill of cap space over the next 3 seasons?
It’s not a big deal to the Ducks aside from having that Liability sit on their B/S for the next 10 to 20 years. If that is what he really wanted to do, they were certainly fine in setting up the contract that way.

There are a lot of benefits actually. In theory, the Ducks could trade him at the deadline in 3 years and another team would be on the hook for 9 mil.

 

[StreetHawk]

There are a lot of benefits actually. In theory, the Ducks could trade him at the deadline in 3 years and another team would be on the hook for 9 mil.

If another club is on the hook for that $9 mill, makes it more unlikely another team would want that obligation.
Is it clear in the CBA who is responsible for the future obligations? Like does that obligation accrue to the team holding his rights over time, so that if he was moved after year 1, Ducks owe $3 mill of it, while the other team owes $6 mill?

 

[FiveTacos]

I don’t mind them I listen sometimes.

Me too, and though I don't necessarily agree with them they seem pleasant enough.

I think they'd benefit from a 3rd person who saw things differently though.

 

[91Fedorov]

There are a lot of benefits actually. In theory, the Ducks could trade him at the deadline in 3 years and another team would be on the hook for 9 mil.

I think it's the opposite. I think he really likes Southern California. I think the 9 mil on the back end makes the contract very difficult to trade. It's almost like a "NTC light".

 

[91Fedorov]

Me too, and though I don't necessarily agree with them they seem pleasant enough.

I think they'd benefit from a 3rd person who saw things differently though.

I listen to them too, and I agree with you. They are too heavy on their advanced stats takes. They also have over the top anti-fighting and anti-toughness takes. They're a decent listen though. They're pretty much all that's available focused on the Ducks.

 

[MCB]

Vatrano says part of the reason he took the deferred money was to help our cap situation:
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This is a pretty big deal as it could help set a precedent for other players on the team to do the same.

Love this. Hopefully more players feel the same.


As for the ducks podcast conversation, I can't stand crash the pond and the other ones. All of the locked on ones just seem like they are clueless. We should just make an hf ducks podcast. I volunteer to edit the videos for us