Post-Game Talk: Ducks 3 - Jets 2

[Gm0ney]

The bitching surprises me. Or maybe not, given the types on this board.

We're first in our division, with a NINE point lead over our dreaded nemesis after playing an equal number of games.

We're first in our conference, with more wins than any other team.

We're first over in the entire bleeding league and guys here are still bitching.

Unbelievable.

I had to think about who you meant by our dreaded nemesis. The Avs? Recency bias! I think it's the Wild. Or maybe the Oilers. Of course, the Leafs have a strong case...

And I know some folks don't want to hear it, but there are real concerns about how this team is playing. They bought themselves a lot of breathing room with the 15-1 start but it's not unfair to say things have gone off the rails since then.

Fraud is pretty harsh...but they're not a complete team. They have great goaltending, pretty good forward depth, but they are wildly inconsistent and prone to long depressive funks.

 

[Jets 31]

heinola better show he belongs

If this defense plays well please leave it like this for a while Arniel .

 

[Buffdog]

If this defense plays well please leave it like this for a while Arniel .

I'd like to think that one of the reasons Arniel had Heinola on his offside with Stanley was so he could stay there when Fleury gets bumped down upon Samberg's return

 

[Stumbledore]

I had to think about who you meant by our dreaded nemesis. The Avs? Recency bias! I think it's the Wild. Or maybe the Oilers. Of course, the Leafs have a strong case...

Recency bias? Wild? Oilers? Leafs? What's got you so wound up, lad?

Here, I'll make it easier for you: Which team eliminated us from the playoffs in 5 games?

 

[Jets 31]

Agreed

What i don't understand about posters who just wait for something bad to happen before jumping in to say "see, it's told you so... the Jets really DO suck" is that there isn't a team in the league that doesn't have their weaknesses

That's the beauty of the Cap Era. The parity means that any team has the chance to win as long as the stars align. To assume that one team (especially one at a disadvantage like the Jets) SHOULD be built to somehow be better than all the other teams is nonsense

There is a TON of stuff to be positive about so far this season. But negvative people will, by definition, only find negative things to focus on. You've seen some of them in here the past few days accusing those of us who aren't on the ledge of "pretending everything is fine", which isn't true. We all acknowledge the challenges the team faces but choose instead to focus on the positives.

If we were battling for a playoff spot i could understand some negative stuff but right now i don't get it. Our 5 on 5 play has dropped but our PP is the best in the league. Now i understand that we want better 5 on 5 play but if our 5 on 5 play was better but our PP sucked we would be complaining about that. Plus the playoffs are 4 months away from now,let's see what the team looks like once we get closer before we start saying we are getting pumped in the first round again.

 

[Gm0ney]

Recency bias? Wild? Oilers? Leafs? What's got you so wound up, lad?

Here, I'll make it easier for you: Which team eliminated us from the playoffs in 5 games?

Right - Vegas (twice!)...and yeah, the Avs. But that wasn't personal.

 

[Jets 31]

Recency bias? Wild? Oilers? Leafs? What's got you so wound up, lad?

Here, I'll make it easier for you: Which team eliminated us from the playoffs in 5 games?

Vegas? Or Colorado?

 

[Jets 31]

Right - Vegas (twice!)...and yeah, the Avs. But that wasn't personal.

It was for me, f*** both of those teams.

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[raideralex99]

The Jets know Stanley can’t keep up with the apeed playing against the good teams.so its better to give him a rest.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

After playing on a stable organization, idk if he'd sign in Buffalo. Personally think the Jets will not be trading any of ehlers or perfetti for cozens. I'm thinking along the long of the Reinhart to Florida trade: 1st+a B/B+ level prospect +Iafallo for cap (who they can later flip at the tdl).

Cozens hasn't been productive this year, and was solid given the team last year. Nothing spectacular, but solid. Some of the prices ppl are theorizing is as if he is still producing at 30g ~70pt clip.

Interesting take. I am just hoping they get something for Ehler's and think he is worth at least a second line centre

 

[Adam da bomb]

The Jets know Stanley can’t keep up with the apeed playing against the good teams.so its better to give him a rest.

Unfortunately, we only have tiny to replace him.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Wait the Jets picked up 3 more legit top 6 forwards to go with the 3 they already have, another top 4 D man to go with the one they already have? Maybe then I believe they actually have a chance!

When lines 2-4 are incapable of doing any scoring 5 v 5 you are in deep doo doo, Helly has masked a lot with these pretend contenders!

Watching the last 10-15 games I question if this team even has a will to win!

Here, here! Unfortunately, winning is tough and lack of attention to detail is what plagues this team. It is shocking how poorly their 5 v5 play has been and kind of perplexing. It looks like they are trying but just not good enough and L1 and L3 are guilty of having tremendous difficulty in their own end clearing the puck, which is also a reflection on the poor puck malmanagement by the defense but on a positive not a team will win the Stanley Cup in 2025 and I guess it could be the Jets

 

[Jets 31]

Unfortunately, we only have tiny to replace him.

Good i want to see what Heinola has or doesn't have, we know what we have in Stanley.

 

[White Out 902]

The bitching surprises me. Or maybe not, given the types on this board.

We're first in our division, with a NINE point lead over our dreaded nemesis after playing an equal number of games.

We're first in our conference, with more wins than any other team.

We're first over in the entire bleeding league and guys here are still bitching.

Unbelievable.

I'm only going to ask one simple question. There's been statistical evidence provided that 5-on-5 for the last 18 games, which represents 22% of a hockey season, the Jets rank 30th in the league for 5-on-5. How can this possibly not be a concern with the game going forward? This is not a small sample size. This is basically a quarter of a season being played with a lottery team 5-on-5.

 

[Huffer]

I'd like to think that one of the reasons Arniel had Heinola on his offside with Stanley was so he could stay there when Fleury gets bumped down upon Samberg's return

That's an interesting thought.

I haven't disliked a lot of Miller's game, but he sure has been taken out it seems.

 

[Gm0ney]

That's an interesting thought.

I haven't disliked a lot of Miller's game, but he sure has been taken out it seems.

Miller doesn't kill penalties, but Stanley and Fleury both do. With Samberg out, they're a bit short of PK defenders.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I'm only going to ask one simple question. There's been statistical evidence provided that 5-on-5 for the last 18 games, which represents 22% of a hockey season, the Jets rank 30th in the league for 5-on-5. How can this possibly not be a concern with the game going forward? This is not a small sample size. This is basically a quarter of a season being played with a lottery team 5-on-5.

It is a concern shared by many, if not all posters here. It needs to get better of course.

But it's also good to acknowledge that we have the best PP in the league (31.4%) and the best goalie in the league.

Both of these things matter too. They matter so much that we're actually #1 in the entire league.

 

[voyageur]

Like more than setting up a goal on his first game back from injury?

Haha tough crowd

That pass looked like he was trying to bank one in off Vilardi's shin pad, good thing it dropped straight down. Got to like the way Gabe scores his goals, you'll never see Ehlers leaning on a far post, getting buried in the crease. But we draw more penalties with him on the ice. Until the playoffs.

 

[Flyby]

Unfortunately, we only have tiny to replace him.

I am just happy he will get a fair chance playing on his correct side and not with an anchor like Stanley.

Miller doesn't kill penalties, but Stanley and Fleury both do. With Samberg out, they're a bit short of PK defenders.

Stanley kills penalties but is terrible at it. Too slow physically and mentally, then flops around on the ice like a fish.

 

[voyageur]

I am just happy he will get a fair chance playing on his correct side and not with an anchor like Stanley.


Stanley kills penalties but is terrible at it. Too slow physically and mentally, then flops around on the ice like a fish.

He's actually been decent at the part of shutting down those 2 on 1 cross crease passes, just by laying a massive giraffe leg out. Full extended Stan probalby cover 10 feet of ice flopping on his belly. Maybe it's science. He and Fleury block shots, which is what any d-man on the PK should do if you don't want to create rebound opportunities.

Probably is too slow. Fleury though is getting closer to Samberg's numbers with each game.

 

[Howard Chuck]

The bitching surprises me. Or maybe not, given the types on this board.

We're first in our division, with a NINE point lead over our dreaded nemesis after playing an equal number of games.

We're first in our conference, with more wins than any other team.

We're first over in the entire bleeding league and guys here are still bitching.

Unbelievable.

I don’t know if anyone is bitching (although could be someone I have on ignore), it seems to me mostly discussing pros and cons of different players at different points of the season.

Would be pretty quiet around here without that.

 

[Gm0ney]

I am just happy he will get a fair chance playing on his correct side and not with an anchor like Stanley.


Stanley kills penalties but is terrible at it. Too slow physically and mentally, then flops around on the ice like a fish.

Is he physical? Not really. Is he mobile? No. But can he clear the puck? Also no...

Pretty big fish though!

I actually don't hate him on the PK, but he causes quite a few PKs on his own, so that isn't really helpful.

 

[White Out 902]

It is a concern shared by many, if not all posters here. It needs to get better of course.

But it's also good to acknowledge that we have the best PP in the league (31.4%) and the best goalie in the league.

Both of these things matter too. They matter so much that we're actually #1 in the entire league.

I think the 15 wins and one loss has more to do with the fact that we're number one in the league. The hot start, I get it it happened. I'm talking about the last 22% of the Season where we are below 500 and playing like a lottery Team 5 on 5. Our goal tending and power play hasn't been able to keep us at a winning rate over the last stretch of that hockey.