Proposal: Duchene + Barrie for Monahan + Brodie

DJJones

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I'm not going to disagree that Brodie is a better defenseman than Barrie, but aren't both of them currently having pretty lame seasons? I'd imagine Brodie will pick it up fairly soon, but Barrie at his peak is a 50 pt defenseman and nowadays those are as rare as they come.

Brodie at his peak is a 50 point guy with solid defense and elite transition skills.

If we resign Backlund or Jankowski can play #2C or #3C next year I'd be open to trading Monahan though.
 

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I'd like Duchene, but I'm really just not comfortable in trading Brodie, or in acquiring Barrie. Don't get me wrong, I love Monahan, but if he could be turned into Duchene in a different deal I'd do it.
 

Goulet17

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Brodie at his peak is a 50 point guy with solid defense and elite transition skills.

If we resign Backlund or Jankowski can play #2C or #3C next year I'd be open to trading Monahan though.

How can you say that Brodie is a 50 point guy at his peak when his career high is 45 points? He has only broken 40 points twice in his career.

Brodie is a better all around defenseman than Barrie IMO, but Barrie is the superior offensive player.
 

DJJones

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How can you say that Brodie is a 50 point guy at his peak when his career high is 45 points? He has only broken 40 points twice in his career.

Brodie is a better all around defenseman than Barrie IMO, but Barrie is the superior offensive player.

45 points in 70 games.

41 points the year before and he carried around Engellend for 30 games.

With Gio he averaged about 55 points/ 81 games for like 120 games over two years. How is he not capable of that peak?

Barrie has a better shot, I'll give him that. Otherwise not really.
 

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Duchene and Barry won't even get you Monahan, let alone him AND Brodie.

McKinnon, Duchene and Barry for Monahan and Brodie and the Flames consider.
 

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Pretty good proposal but my god I hate how much this board underrates Monahan because "he plays with gadreau
 

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45 points in 70 games.

41 points the year before and he carried around Engellend for 30 games.

With Gio he averaged about 55 points/ 81 games for like 120 games over two years. How is he not capable of that peak?

Barrie has a better shot, I'll give him that. Otherwise not really.

If he were capable he would have done it. Barrie's not exactly been playing with allstar partners either. Certainly noone close to as good as Giordano... And staying healthy isn't random. If a player is on pace for 50 points but he never gets there because he's never healthy enough... then you shouldn't call him a 50 point player unless he's gotten like.. 49 a bunch of times.
As it stands he had a fairly healthy 41 point season and a 45 point season with a pace about 50 pts.

If you look at the rest of the seasons the difference gets bigger despite Barrie being a year younger!
 

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Duchene would be a good player to add in Calgary. Trading Monahan isn't a good idea though. If there was a way to acquire Duchene without giving up Monahan, maybe that could work. Maybe one Oliver Kylington is ready to play in the NHL, Sending a D man like Gio could get it done. The way things are shaking up in Colorado though, they might be headed for a retool/rebuild.
 

Iceberg

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If Duchene alone gets us Monaham, then we should do it!

But of course that is not really the case.
 

AvsGuy

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Brodie at his peak is a 50 point guy with solid defense and elite transition skills.

Brodie has never hit 50 points so that's patently false. He's a 40-45 point defenseman in a good year and from the looks of it he won't even sniff that this season.
 

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It's not an offer that should make either fanbase cringe and be upset, but I definitely feel it favors the Avs.
 

DJJones

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If he were capable he would have done it. Barrie's not exactly been playing with allstar partners either. Certainly noone close to as good as Giordano... And staying healthy isn't random. If a player is on pace for 50 points but he never gets there because he's never healthy enough... then you shouldn't call him a 50 point player unless he's gotten like.. 49 a bunch of times.
As it stands he had a fairly healthy 41 point season and a 45 point season with a pace about 50 pts.

If you look at the rest of the seasons the difference gets bigger despite Barrie being a year younger!

This is his third year being a top line guy. I'd love to see Barrie maintain a 0.5ppg pace with Engellend. Absolutely love to see it. I'd vote him for Norris haha.

But ya, Barrie has a better shot and is better on the powerplay but 5 on 5 I'd take Brodie's offense. If a 100+ game trend doesn't qualify as a peak because it's over two seasons then sure, guess I'm wrong. He's only a 45 point player and will always max out at 70 games.

Brodie was 4th in the league last year in total even strength points last year in 70 games.
 

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Duchene + Barrie for Hamilton + Monahan and a small + from Calgary.

OR

Duchene + Barrie + Varlamov for Brodie + Monahan + McDonald/Elliot(Don't care).
 
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Whitesnake

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Maybe a change of scenery for some core players?

For the record, in the world of insane proposals, your proposal makes total sense. Congrats. Some people reactions in here are funny. They act as if they'll say no to whatever isn't a landslide win for them. If I'm the AVs I'd probably add a very good prospect. Or high pick. But this proposal isn't bad, far from it. Duchene ain't no slouch. And Barrie isn't Marc-André Bergeron. But true that on the Calgary front....almost everybody is struggling. Which doesn't say that suddenly Brodie and Monahan lost their talent. But that it's a team problem. And you need to be careful in trading them. Might not be the best moment. The real value of both guys isn't what you are seeing now. A Monahan and a Brodie from last year would have made those guys almost untouchable....

Again. Good proposal.

P.S Remember people...everytime a REAL deal happen....most of you ALL panic and say how a team won when realizing later than it might be the other team who did win.....or that in the end both teams might have won. So you might disagree with a trade proposal, but just don't act as if YOU have the key to the truth to try to make the ones who do suggest things are stupid.
 
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Duchene + Barrie for Hamilton + Monahan and a small + from Calgary.

OR

Duchene + Barrie + Varlamov for Brodie + Monahan + McDonald/Elliot(Don't care).

Don't care for either of those at all. No to Barrie, no to Varlamov (hell no), and no to trading Hamilton or Brodie, or MacDonald.

Duchene for Monahan + a prospect or pick I would be interested in but still don't really wanna trade Mony
 

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Don't care for either of those at all. No to Barrie, no to Varlamov (hell no), and no to trading Hamilton or Brodie, or MacDonald.

Duchene for Monahan + a prospect or pick I would be interested in but still don't really wanna trade Mony

I mean Chad Johnson actually. I didn't realize MacDonald doesn't play for the Flames anymore :laugh: Also didn't realize they had a goalie prospect called McDonald as well.
 

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I mean Chad Johnson actually. I didn't realize MacDonald doesn't play for the Flames anymore :laugh: Also didn't realize they had a goalie prospect called McDonald as well.

MacDonald is one of our goalie prospects.

And why would we trade our goalie who is carrying us currently for Varlamov who costs 5m more and hasn't been himself in several years?
 

DJJones

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I mean Chad Johnson actually. I didn't realize MacDonald doesn't play for the Flames anymore :laugh: Also didn't realize they had a goalie prospect called McDonald as well.

Joey MacDonald? There's a name I haven't thought about in a while
 

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