Speculation: Drouin for some offensive depth?

samsagat

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I know Drouin's reputation.

But frankly, I've been seeing him play for 5 seasons now and he's not as bad as some others teams fans say he is.

He can't be a leader you rely on, can't be the guy to take too much pressure neither, a thing he had in MTL being a francophone acquired for a young blue chip defenseman who developed well in TB.

But if he'd be relied on to be a good complementary offensive guy, playing alongside dominant offensives players, he could be an astute acquisition for relatively cheap.

He always been a playoff guy, producing 21 pts in the last 27 playoff games he played in.

I think he could be a good addition for a team actually in the playoff but lacking offensive power

I'm realistic, he won't fetch something big, I expect Habs to ask for good (not great) prospects.

An example from LA Kings:

Jordan Spence + Martin Chromiak

for

J.Drouin
 
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ole ole

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I know Drouin's reputation.

But frankly, I've been seeing him play for 5 seasons now and he's not as bad as some others teams fans say he is.

He can't be a leader you rely on, can't be the guy to take too much pressure neither, a thing he had in MTL being a francophone acquired for a young blue chip defenseman who developed well in TB.

But if he'd be relied on to be a good complementary offensive guy, playing alongside dominant offensives players, he could be an astute acquisition for relatively cheap.

He always been a playoff guy, producing 21 pts in the last 27 playoff games he played in.

I think he could be a good addition for a team actually in the playoff but lacking offensive power

I'm realistic, he won't fetch something big, I expect Habs to ask for good (not great) prospects.

An example from LA Kings:

Jordan Spence + Martin Chromiak

for

J.Drouin
I'd rather just keep Drouin for now.
 

YP44

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Limited to no interest from LA for me. I like Drouin but LA needs to clear forward spots for some of their prospects. Also in the deal mentioned I am a lot bigger on Spence than most so no desire there.

unless it was Athanasiou + Grundstrom, but why would Montreal do that. And I think I would still rather have the cap space in the offseason.
 

Richard88

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Just out of curiosity what would Montreal be looking to get for Drouin at 50% retained in the offseason?
 

Boondock

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I know Drouin's reputation.

But frankly, I've been seeing him play for 5 seasons now and he's not as bad as some others teams fans say he is.

He can't be a leader you rely on, can't be the guy to take too much pressure neither, a thing he had in MTL being a francophone acquired for a young blue chip defenseman who developed well in TB.

But if he'd be relied on to be a good complementary offensive guy, playing alongside dominant offensives players, he could be an astute acquisition for relatively cheap.

He always been a playoff guy, producing 21 pts in the last 27 playoff games he played in.

I think he could be a good addition for a team actually in the playoff but lacking offensive power

I'm realistic, he won't fetch something big, I expect Habs to ask for good (not great) prospects.

An example from LA Kings:

Jordan Spence + Martin Chromiak

for

J.Drouin
I would think the biggest stumbling block for any team would be the $5.5 for this year and next. There aren't many teams looking to win a cup with an extra $5.5 on their cap. And if they do have the extra cap, are they interested in investing it in a player with clear flaws in his game. Over the past 3 season Drouin is 158th amongst forwards in points per game. Drouin isn't suited for a bottom 6 role, so you are looking for a team with $5.5 in cap for this and next year, want a offense only winger, that produces below his cap hit but needs a top 6 role to do that. If the Habs are motivated to move him, they might need to take back some bad cap and/or retain on his salary.
 
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ole ole

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I would think the biggest stumbling block for any team would be the $5.5 for this year and next. There aren't many teams looking to win a cup with an extra $5.5 on their cap. And if they do have the extra cap, are they interested in investing it in a player with clear flaws in his game. Over the past 3 season Drouin is 158th amongst forwards in points per game. Drouin isn't suited for a bottom 6 role, so you are looking for a team with $5.5 in cap for this and next year, want a offense only winger, that produces below his cap hit but needs a top 6 role to do that. If the Habs are motivated to move him, they might need to take back some bad cap and/or retain on his salary.
As much as others shit on him i would rather keep him than retain anything. He's what he is a 50-55 pt W is 26 and his hit really won't hurt us the next couple of seasons.
 

Boondock

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As much as others shit on him i would rather keep him than retain anything. He's what he is a 50-55 pt W is 26 and his hit really won't hurt us the next couple of seasons.
I totally understand and appreciate he can be more value to any team than I laid out in my post, but that cap hit would be tough for a serious contender to absorb
 
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samsagat

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I totally understand and appreciate he can be more value to any team than I laid out in my post, but that cap hit would be tough for a serious contender to absorb

Ok, a solution would be that some bad contracts could make the other way around.

Players like Jost from Colorado, Kassian in Edmonton, etc..
 

Kudo Shinichi

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Just out of curiosity what would Montreal be looking to get for Drouin at 50% retained in the offseason?

Hard to tell what his value is.

Players of his type (lots of offense, but not much of anything else) tend to not be valued a lot in the league. Hall and Buchnevich were traded for a 2nd+. So I would assume his value would be a 2nd round pick. He does have a track record of producing in the playoffs, which should interest playoff teams.
 
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morgan_mtl

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If in the last 3 years he is 158th in points for forwards and with 32 teams there are now 192 top 6 forwards in the league, would that not slot him in a top 6 forward role?
 

SwedishFire

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I know Drouin's reputation.

But frankly, I've been seeing him play for 5 seasons now and he's not as bad as some others teams fans say he is.

He can't be a leader you rely on, can't be the guy to take too much pressure neither, a thing he had in MTL being a francophone acquired for a young blue chip defenseman who developed well in TB.

But if he'd be relied on to be a good complementary offensive guy, playing alongside dominant offensives players, he could be an astute acquisition for relatively cheap.

He always been a playoff guy, producing 21 pts in the last 27 playoff games he played in.

I think he could be a good addition for a team actually in the playoff but lacking offensive power

I'm realistic, he won't fetch something big, I expect Habs to ask for good (not great) prospects.

An example from LA Kings:

Jordan Spence + Martin Chromiak

for

J.Drouin

I see Drouin as a middle 6 fill in, complementary winger. Hes cap should be highest max 4 for what he brings, ca 3,5.

I think a team with 2nd/3rd line problem can get a usw of him, for like a D man or a 2nd rounder.
 

Richard88

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Ok, a solution would be that some bad contracts could make the other way around.

Players like Jost from Colorado, Kassian in Edmonton, etc..
Jost isn't a bad contract. It's pretty much the going rate for a player like him.

Hard to tell what his value is.

Players of his type (lots of offense, but not much of anything else) tend to not be valued a lot in the league. Hall and Buchnevich were traded for a 2nd+. So I would assume his value would be a 2nd round pick. He does have a track record of producing in the playoffs, which should interest playoff teams.
Thanks for the reply. To me a 2nd would be steep for him unless there's significant retention.
 

McJedi

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Jost isn't a bad contract. It's pretty much the going rate for a player like him.


Thanks for the reply. To me a 2nd would be steep for him unless there's significant retention.
Only trade I’d do for Drouin is his full contract for JTCs full contract. Nothing else either way.

a change of scenery trade for these two. Both expire after next year and hit UFA.
 
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Mats26

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Drouin at 50% would maybe get some bites. From the Kings, I doubt Bergevin would make the same mistake twice in getting this overpaid underachiever.
 

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