Value of: Drouin for Dman

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VoluntaryDom

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Yeah holy homer. Drouin may have more value than Granlund because of age. Going off of Drouin's point pace which was 59, Granlund had 10 more points. Granlund is basically a 70 point scorer. Drouin maybe has better tools, i.e. Shot, speed. Granlund's playmaking ability is ridiculous. I don't know what the difference is in between primary assists between the two. Granlund is also very good defensively. Saying Drouin for Karlsson is just ridiculous. Enough said on that one. Lol at Spurgeon+/Brodin+. It would be Drouin++ for them. Top Pairing Defenseman>>>Top-6 Winger.

Even when the winger is just past age 21? And nearly had 60 points playing for a coach who benched him quite a bit?

(And had a 69 point pace since the start of December, huh, that's the same as Granlund)
(And did this while likely playing on an injury for the last couple weeks of the season)
 
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Even when the winger is age 21? And nearly had 60 points playing for a coach who benched him quite a bit?

(And had a 69 point pace since the start of December, huh, that's the same as Granlund)
(And did this while likely playing on an injury for the last couple weeks of the season)

What was Granlunds point pace since December, let's see those arbitrarily picked stats as well.

Oh he had 55 points in 59 games! A 76.4 point pace! (And did this while being less than 100% at the end of the season and going on a 5 game pointless drought)
 

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Is Drouin's value significantly below Hall's? Because most of the players mentioned here are less valuable than Larsson. (Eg. Ellis, Dumba, Tanev)

I think Drouin is getting seriously underrated here. Tbh in a vacuum he's worth Karlsson. Won't happen, same way Hall couldn't fetch a Subban level player, but some of these offers are insanely low.
You have to be joking.
 

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how would tampa fan feel about

sergachev + 2nd for drouin?

sergachev being draft exempt is a huge +
 
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Replace 2nd with Juulsen or McCarran?

we are very short on Dman prospect, so an addition is a no go for sure, im not super high on McCarron and i'd rather trade a prospect we havent draft cause this trade could already hurt!

i'd personnaly wouldnt mind changing the 2nd to this years 1st but i kinda dont see the organisation pulling this since they are kinda realy high on sergachev!


but i'd do Sergachev + 1st
 

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Automatically lose one of them to LV.

No interest in Vatanen. Theodore did his value no favors this year. Easy pass

really? still only 21 and learning how to play defense (what D isn't at 21?) but 5 points in 3 playoff games is hurting his value? ok then.
 

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Automatically lose one of them to LV.

No interest in Vatanen. Theodore did his value no favors this year. Easy pass


Theodore is exempt. And I think Vatanen is better than some of the guys that have been discussed in this thread, most notably Dumba.
 

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really? still only 21 and learning how to play defense (what D isn't at 21?) but 5 points in 3 playoff games is hurting his value? ok then.

I didn't say he has no value, I said he hurt his value. He looked like a stud last year and like less of a stud this year is all

Don't cherry pick stats. Drouin looked like a God in his playoff debut
 

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we are very short on Dman prospect, so an addition is a no go for sure, im not super high on McCarron and i'd rather trade a prospect we havent draft cause this trade could already hurt!

i'd personnaly wouldnt mind changing the 2nd to this years 1st but i kinda dont see the organisation pulling this since they are kinda realy high on sergachev!


but i'd do Sergachev + 1st

Juulsen and Mccarron address organizational needs for us, but I would do Serg+1st.
 

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I didn't say he has no value, I said he hurt his value. He looked like a stud last year and like less of a stud this year is all

Don't cherry pick stats. Drouin looked like a God in his playoff debut

Not cherry picking just giving facts. You made a subjective statement based on what I don't know so I countered it. Theodore is like any other 21 year old still learning the game and he has had his good moments and bad but to say he has taken a step back is just unsupportable at this point. He'll play in this league for the next 10-12 years just based on his offense alone. Once he gains some muscle watch out!
 

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we are very short on Dman prospect, so an addition is a no go for sure, im not super high on McCarron and i'd rather trade a prospect we havent draft cause this trade could already hurt!

i'd personnaly wouldnt mind changing the 2nd to this years 1st but i kinda dont see the organisation pulling this since they are kinda realy high on sergachev!


but i'd do Sergachev + 1st

You have made an offer for Drouin that I actually want. You have done the impossible.
 

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Not cherry picking just giving facts. You made a subjective statement based on what I don't know so I countered it. Theodore is like any other 21 year old still learning the game and he has had his good moments and bad but to say he has taken a step back is just unsupportable at this point. He'll play in this league for the next 10-12 years just based on his offense alone. Once he gains some muscle watch out!

His potential is factored into his value. He did not do as well this year as last year, which effects his value. It's not really arguable. If he contributed over a full season how he did last season he wouldn't be available.
 

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His potential is factored into his value. He did not do as well this year as last year, which effects his value. It's not really arguable. If he contributed over a full season how he did last season he wouldn't be available.

Except in the minds of a few posters on a hockey trade board I doubt that he is available short of a very compelling offer.
 

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Theodore is exempt. And I think Vatanen is better than some of the guys that have been discussed in this thread, most notably Dumba.

Vatanen is a 26 yo Dman. Dumba is 22yo. Who do you think will be a better player in 4 years?
 
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