GDT: Draft thread Day 2 - 11AM

[acrobaticgoalie]

Think they'd waive Woll or Murray?

I expect a trade up or back.

Maybe waive Murray. I can't see them waiving Woll. No chance he makes it through.

 

[Warden of the North]

Feeling a Nylander trade today.

Let's gooooooo

 

[Trapper]

Feeling a Nylander trade today.

Let's gooooooo

Treliving said he wanted to re-sign Matthews and Nylander.
That leaves the other guy…

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Treliving said he wanted to re-sign Matthews and Nylander.
That leaves the other guy…

Want does not mean will. If Willy's contract demands are to far out there something has to happen.

 

[ACC1224]

Bust.

Sorry, just doing my pre-draft warmup.

'I can't believe he fell that far'

 

[Warden of the North]

Treliving said he wanted to re-sign Matthews and Nylander.
That leaves the other guy…

Sure, but what if Nylander demands an unrealistic number? He'll be moved

 

[notbias]

Hope we don’t trade our 1st. This organization needs to start taking a future without the core 4 more seriously.

We could just trade the core 4 for picks and really start taking it more seriously.

We have a good pool for where we have been drafting and relative to other contenders (don't care if people don't think we are a contender).

It'll be nice to use the 28th pick on someone, but would also be fine moving it in the right deal.

Our core is also pretty young.

 

[Trapper]

Sure, but what if Nylander demands an unrealistic number? He'll be moved

The other guy could do the same with a full NMC.
At least you have options with Nylander.

 

[al secord]

'I can't believe he fell that far'

"I had him higher on my list"

 

[TheBeastCoast]

The other guy could do the same with a full NMC.
At least you have options with Nylander.

You don't think a Nylander extension is going to come with trade protections as well? We either trade these guy pre extension or they stay Leafs for a long long time.

 

[Buds17]

Not in a contention window. Anything goes.

Nature of doing business when you are a top 5 team.

You do whatever you can to get over the hump. Otherwise, you sold out your fanbase.

I'd normally be in agreement with this. However, the relative dearth of picks overall is what gives me pause.

 

[ACC1224]

Treliving said he wanted to re-sign Matthews and Nylander.
That leaves the other guy…

The 'other guy' can't be signed yet.

 

[BallardEra]

FRAPPE TIME ON GREEK ISLANDS!!!

DO NOT DISTURB!!!

 

[ACC1224]

The other guy could do the same with a full NMC.
At least you have options with Nylander.

Historically he was also the toughest to deal with.

 

[leafers]

How many picks do we have?

 

[Gaberd2608]

Historically he was also the toughest to deal

This is probably because Dubas didn't negotiate with Matthews or Marner. He just gave them what they asked for.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

When was the last time the Leafs made a big draft day trade?

I think you expect a pick at 28 or a move down. Otherwise should be quiet.

I guess it depends if you consider trading from a 1st rounder to multiple 2nd rounders a big trade. Only one I can think of

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Bust.

Sorry, just doing my pre-draft warmup.

Overrated, what a waste of a pick.

 

[SprDaVE]

How many picks do we have?

3

1st-5th-6th

 

[kevsh]

There is some logic in keeping Murray for now.

Today his value is rock bottom after all the time he missed this past season, including the playoffs. However, if he is back and (relatively) healthy to start the season then it will be a lot easier to move his contract if need be.

Best case scenario, though highly unlikely, is Murray is 100%, stays that way and performs well, in which case the Leafs have a surplus of goalies and can make a deal from a position of strength.

In any case, Murray's value can't really go much farther south so why not gamble that he can recover at least some of it? As pointed out, the team can handle carrying 3 goalies short term.

 

[The Iceman]

I can see TREE re-upping Willy over the summer but trading him before the next contract kicks in July 1, 2024.

He is a value deal for this coming season, not so much next contract.

 

[The Iceman]

There is some logic in keeping Murray for now.

Today his value is rock bottom after all the time he missed this past season, including the playoffs. However, if he is back and (relatively) healthy to start the season then it will be a lot easier to move his contract if need be.

Best case scenario, though highly unlikely, is Murray is 100%, stays that way and performs well, in which case the Leafs have a surplus of goalies and can make a deal from a position of strength.

In any case, Murray's value can't really go much farther south so why not gamble that he can recover at least some of it? As pointed out, the team can handle carrying 3 goalies short term.

Murray counts $4.7 on the cap.
Can't have him and a new contract for Samsonov + Woll.

That is the difference in having ROR or losing him.

 

[egd27]

Treliving said yesterday the most likely scenario is the Leafs keep their 28th pick, even possibly move down, so with a likely 1st round pick at least there's a reason to watch beyond the drama of seeing which team will take Michkov.

The guy with #14 loves to trade back, maybe Treliving can trade the 28th, a 7th rounder and negotiating rights to Kerfoot and Holl for it.

 

[Trapper]

The 'other guy' can't be signed yet.

No but the difference is you can decide in November that Nylander’s ask is too high and trade him.
Marner has a NMC in a few days.

 

[al secord]

Overrated, what a waste of a pick.

Dude. I'm a late bloomer.