NHL Draft lottery race - Bruins currently have 4th Pick

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Okay but look at Hyman now right? Consider how Marchand was also not considered skilled enough to be anything more than a pest. Picked pretty low wasn't he.
For sure but look at the injury bear just had, that same injury changed the trajectory of karlssons career and practically ended pacioretty’s.

Do you really want to take that risk with your top pick in the draft? Everyone hates on McQueen Hell mcqueens back injury is safer considering it wasn’t something that required surgery just required time to heal and build up strength as it was due to his large growth spurts.
 
Reinhart was traded for a 1st and Levi (a 7th round goalie prospect) how does that equate to “Bostons top prospect”?????

I didn’t mention Tkachuk. He was traded star for star.

Again you’re ignoring my post. The Panthers were NOT a playoff team when they made the moves to acquire Reinhart Bennett Verhaeghe. In fact they had missed the playoffs 4 years in a row. So tell me again why Boston should wait to make hockey trades to improve this roster?


Oh my honestly… why do you not read the posts

Levi was Floridas Swayman, he had a lot of hype surrounding him at the time of the trade. He was seen as a future starter. Boston right now doesn’t have any A tier prospects so similar value would be 1st+ best prospect

How do you not know how Florida built their team..

They didn’t start their build with Tkachuk, Reinhart, Bennett moves. They already had a proven 1C, 1D& 1G in the building. They didn’t start from the Tkachuk move and then find Barkov, he was already in the building. Whether or not they were successfull prior to that doesn’t matter, what matters is that they had the nucleus of the core already in place and where ready for win now moves. Boston isn’t in that place..

Or you look at Tampa, they already had Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Hedman, Vasy in the building when they started to go for their aggressive moves to win Cups. They didn’t start from Hagelin etc moves and then find Point, Kucherov, Hedman.

Boston again doesn’t have the nucleus of the core in the building. This team is not ready for win now moves!! They have a bottom tier prospect pool+ major holes in the lineup

If you so want to ignore the draft and build a contender via trades/signings you have to find 2-3 elite/high end forwards. You don’t have the cap space nor the assets to do that. Why is it so hard to understand?

No matter what you do this offseason you are not going to turn them into a elite team for next season

So why instead of trading/signing for those 2-3 elite/high end players you draft them?? Draft is the best available option to try to fix that talent issue.

The problem with your plan is, that you are building an average team with average ceiling. By making win now moves now for a team that’s not ready you make sure they aren’t competing for a Cup next season and you also make sure they aren’t in a position to draft elite talent

So what’s left again? You have to trade/sign for those 2-3 elite/high end forwards and Boston doesn’t have the assets nor cap space to pull of that off and have enough depth

Also a massive problem in your comps with Florida is that both Florida& Tampa had the best Gm’s in the business. Finding your Zito for sure won’t be easy

You are so desperate for being Minnesota of the East. Always in the hunt for a playoff position, never a threat to do anything while there
 
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Not sure if it's been talked about much but I think we should avoid Misa, if given the chance to take him. Absolutely brutal in the playoffs with 3 points (0 5v5) and going -10 in the process. Combine that with a questionable attitude and an NHL projection to be a winger.

Not sure if we'll have the chance to take him but I'd rather any of the other 3 centers that have been discussed.
 
Not sure if it's been talked about much but I think we should avoid Misa, if given the chance to take him. Absolutely brutal in the playoffs with 3 points (0 5v5) and going -10 in the process. Combine that with a questionable attitude and an NHL projection to be a winger.

Not sure if we'll have the chance to take him but I'd rather any of the other 3 centers that have been discussed.
Did you see who they had in net? A rookie with a 5.78 GAA average and .820 SV% ?

And may I ask where the questionable attitude comes from?
 
Did you see who they had in net? A rookie with a 5.78 GAA average and .820 SV% ?

And may I ask where the questionable attitude comes from?
Appearing disinterested/lack of effort in a playoff series where his team was getting pounded. Not to mention flinging teddy bears back in to the stands on Sarnia's teddy bear toss night.

Also don't think having goaltending issues is a reason to put up 3 points in the playoffs
 
Appearing disinterested/lack of effort in a playoff series where his team was getting pounded. Not to mention flinging teddy bears back in to the stands on Sarnia's teddy bear toss night.

Also don't think having goaltending issues is a reason to put up 3 points in the playoffs
Sounds like you’ve really dug in and done some extensive analysis. Not sure how anyone could argue with the questionable attitude around teddy bears.
 
For me to have an understanding of the quality of the OHL, If his team played BC's team 10 times how many games should we expect them to win?
 
Sounds like you’ve really dug in and done some extensive analysis. Not sure how anyone could argue with the questionable attitude around teddy bears.
Obviously not the be-all and end-all for his attitude but it rubs me the wrong way, such an unnecessary thing to do and screams sore loser to me. Feel free to ignore the rest of what I've said though. Giving up in games 4/5 of a playoff series is not the kind of guy I want the Bruins to draft

For me to have an understanding of the quality of the OHL, If his team played BC's team 10 times how many games should we expect them to win?
Do I expect them to win? Probably 0.
 
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Obviously not the be-all and end-all for his attitude but it rubs me the wrong way, such an unnecessary thing to do and screams sore loser to me. Feel free to ignore the rest of what I've said though. Giving up in games 4/5 of a playoff series is not the kind of guy I want the Bruins to draft


Do I expect them to win? Probably 0.
Misa was likely playing through a minor injury. It can be tough to be good with an injury. If misa or shaefele are on the table the bruins have to take them.
 
For me an interesting question is what happens if you stay at 4 post lottery and Miss and Hagens are gone and Matrone is there. I think it’s more interesting than the Schafer question because I think the team needs to take a forward regardless. The difference between Misa and Schafer is too narrow to not go forward. But if you project Martome as Brady Tkachuk, that’s interesting.
 
Oh my honestly… why do you not read the posts

Levi was Floridas Swayman, he had a lot of hype surrounding him at the time of the trade. He was seen as a future starter. Boston right now doesn’t have any A tier prospects so similar value would be 1st+ best prospect

How do you not know how Florida built their team..

They didn’t start their build with Tkachuk, Reinhart, Bennett moves. They already had a proven 1C, 1D& 1G in the building. They didn’t start from the Tkachuk move and then find Barkov, he was already in the building. Whether or not they were successfull prior to that doesn’t matter, what matters is that they had the nucleus of the core already in place and where ready for win now moves. Boston isn’t in that place..

Or you look at Tampa, they already had Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Hedman, Vasy in the building when they started to go for their aggressive moves to win Cups. They didn’t start from Hagelin etc moves and then find Point, Kucherov, Hedman.

Boston again doesn’t have the nucleus of the core in the building. This team is not ready for win now moves!! They have a bottom tier prospect pool+ major holes in the lineup

If you so want to ignore the draft and build a contender via trades/signings you have to find 2-3 elite/high end forwards. You don’t have the cap space nor the assets to do that. Why is it so hard to understand?

No matter what you do this offseason you are not going to turn them into a elite team for next season

So why instead of trading/signing for those 2-3 elite/high end players you draft them?? Draft is the best available option to try to fix that talent issue.

The problem with your plan is, that you are building an average team with average ceiling. By making win now moves now for a team that’s not ready you make sure they aren’t competing for a Cup next season and you also make sure they aren’t in a position to draft elite talent

So what’s left again? You have to trade/sign for those 2-3 elite/high end forwards and Boston doesn’t have the assets nor cap space to pull of that off and have enough depth

Also a massive problem in your comps with Florida is that both Florida& Tampa had the best Gm’s in the business. Finding your Zito for sure won’t be easy

You are so desperate for being Minnesota of the East. Always in the hunt for a playoff position, never a threat to do anything while there
many here too young to remember a time when the Lightning were putrid, prior to their Cup win in 2004 I believe, they missed the playoffs for 9 of the previous 10 years, won cup then over the next 5 years, 3 more DNQ`s for playoffs which drastically altered their franchise, got their franchise C in Lecavalier, got Brad Richards, then stunk the barn out for years again allowing them to snag, yet again, another two franchise players in Stamkos and Hedman in back to back years which literally set them up for years

B`s haven`t had the luxury of being so terrible they sat in a position to draft a franchise C, this year they are in that position and I`m not sure there is a franchise altering kid but they "should" set themselves up nicely

We are a spoiled bunch here, this fan base hasn`t seen lengthy dips to the point of compiling a multitude of DNQ`s like other`s, read somewhere since 1997, the Bruins missed the playoffs in consecutive years only 3 occurrences of missing back to back playoffs and that`s it which is great but they never seemed to bottom out so badly for years that they were consistently picking in the top 10 or even 5

Sweeney`s best work as GM came at the TD this year, my biggest concern is that he and Neely shouldn`t be the one`s trying to fix the issues
 
For me an interesting question is what happens if you stay at 4 post lottery and Miss and Hagens are gone and Matrone is there. I think it’s more interesting than the Schafer question because I think the team needs to take a forward regardless. The difference between Misa and Schafer is too narrow to not go forward. But if you project Martome as Brady Tkachuk, that’s interesting.
If shaefere is on the table at 4-5 you have to take him.
 
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Still in fourth last. I can’t believe I’m rooting for them to lose…. Dark times.
In general yeah but I gotta say getting to "rely" on this team's many shortcomings after being frustrated by them all season is kind if of refreshing.

Unfortunately all the remaining games seem winnable with what's going on with NJ, but I hope they stay true to form and pick up 3 points maximum.

I don't know much about the prospects but it seems to be a draft where picking high, but not at the very top is a good position to be in. My only (irrational?) fear is they'll take some American ranked in the 20s because he's 6'4 and plays college in their back yard.
 
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look back at past drafts, I was reviewing 2011....funny that the one bad pick in the top 10 or so was Larsson, and the best D was hamilton, but Jersey ended up getting him in the end anyways! Lot's of good picks in that draft but nobody that was elite overall.

RNH in Edmonton is such an interesting one, never panned out to be an elite guy as the number 1 pick, but 2 seasons ago he scored a whopping 104 points...and if you look at his overall career that one is a major major outlier.

hockey is so weird.

Hamilton also had his best season the same year (22-23)...was scoring just really up that year?
 
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In general yeah but I gotta say getting to "rely" on this team's many shortcomings after being frustrated by them all season is kind if of refreshing.

Unfortunately all the remaining games seem winnable with what's going on with NJ, but I hope they stay true to form and pick up 3 points maximum.

I don't know much about the prospects but it seems to be a draft where picking high, but not at the very top is a good position to be in. My only (irrational?) fear is they'll take some American ranked in the 20s because he's 6'4 and plays college in their back yard.
I wouldn’t worry. They only do this with late picks. No way Sweeney does that with a top 5 pick.
 
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