NHL Draft lottery race - Bruins currently have 4th Pick

[Forester65]

Oh he will be gone top 2, the Schafer question is about if you have 1OA.

Do you think it would be smart for us to take him? There is always the 'best player available' school of thought, but we need to prioritize center. We enjoyed being strong up the middle for years led by Bergi and Krejci and now we need to get back to that.

 

[wintersej]

Do you think it would be smart for us to take him? There is always the 'best player available' school of thought, but we need to prioritize center. We enjoyed being strong up the middle for years led by Bergi and Krejci and now we need to get back to that.

Forwards are easier to project and hit their projections faster. You would hate to take him and have him Owen Power on you. If the gap was bigger, maybe, but it's both a riskier pick and a pick at maybe the position they need the least help at. If they were in true tear it down rebuild mode, maybe its different, but they are trying to get back to competing ASAP.

 

[McBrom7]

 

[kdog82]

Sure, and Hagens is like Jack Hughes and Frondell is in the Barkov mode. Etc.

I would imagine yes. Hence why they are all projected to go in the top 4-5

I don't know why its so hard to believe.

Lane Hutson went 2nd round. Plays like.... I don't know. Seems like a Quinn Hughes to me.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Do you think it would be smart for us to take him? There is always the 'best player available' school of thought, but we need to prioritize center. We enjoyed being strong up the middle for years led by Bergi and Krejci and now we need to get back to that.

Chicago won 2 Cups with the likes of Handzus, Bolland and Kruger behind Toews and a 34 year old diminished Brad Richards for the 3rd Cup. If Bruins win lottery I have no issue taking Schaefer.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

If only he could skate.

 

[Son of Donegal]

Chicago won 2 Cups with the likes of Handzus, Bolland and Kruger behind Toews and a 34 year old diminished Brad Richards for the 3rd Cup. If Bruins win lottery I have no issue taking Schaefer.

Not to mention, if Schaefer is as good folks think he is (which would be the best B's defenseman since Chara) the Bruins can move a D for a C if they really want to.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Oh god not Bader…

 

[DKH]

If only he could skate.

Nashville top 2 centers are Stamkos & Ryan O’Reilly they got a couple of good center prospects who are arriving like Fedor Svechkov or Yegor Surin a few years away

Frondell makes mega sense if they hold 3

However they drafted Stiga last year in round 2 and likely BC teammates Hagens & Stiga team up for a dynamic duo next college season

Hagens certainly they have heavily scouted and I’ve seen him multiple times and no little of Frondell but just seems he could be there guy.

Matthew Wood, Stiga, and Hagens would give them heavy US F presence

 

[Hookslide]

Looks like Nashville is going to out-tank us for that 3rd spot.

Nashville's tank started in October, so do still want to call it a tank or something else, "LIKE WE SUCKED" !!!!

 

[wintersej]

Not to mention, if Schaefer is as good folks think he is (which would be the best B's defenseman since Chara) the Bruins can move a D for a C if they really want to.

I mean you can say that... but McAvoy has a NMC. Lindholm does, too, and is damaged goods until he proves otherwise. How much trade value does Lorhei have? You certainly should poke around, but I'm skeptical. Either way, it's only a 9.5% chance at 1OA so probably a non-issue.

 

[wintersej]

Chicago won 2 Cups with the likes of Handzus, Bolland and Kruger behind Toews and a 34 year old diminished Brad Richards for the 3rd Cup. If Bruins win lottery I have no issue taking Schaefer.

Ok, but where is your Toews? And your Hossa. And your Saad. And your Sharp.

 

[DominicT]

@DominicT have you written anything of late you can point me to that indicates whether this generational tag folks seem to have applied to this Schaefer is warranted

I have not. Sorry.

I will say this though: I have very strict idea of "a generational player". I didn't believe you could have two generational players at the same time, simply because of the definition, then Mario Lemieux came along. But to me, there have been only 5 generational players in my lifetime: Bobby Orr, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Sidney Crosby and Connor McDavid.

I don't believe Schaefer is a generational talent because you have guys like Makar.

I have watched him play going on 4 years now, since he played in the U16's while he should have been in the U15's. I got to watch Chris Pronger's entire 16-year-old season and I can tell you that Schaefer is the best defenceman I have seen at that age since Pronger. (Pronger played Junior B here in my hometown during his 16-yo season).

You have to remember, Schaefer is eligible for the 2025 Draft by just 10 days. He's that close to not being eligible until next year. His injury hasn't hurt his draft stock, if anything, it has hurt his ability to show that the gap should be wider from him to whoever is number two.

If the Bruins end up winning the draft lottery and SJ and Chicago are two and three, I think you could see a bidding war to get number one from Boston. And Sweeney should listen closely. He could make out like gangbusters and still get an elite center.

 

[McBrom7]

Oh god not Bader…

No idea who that is or his background. I just like providing as many data points and opinions as possible

 

[KillerMillerTime]

If only he could skate.

Why Barkov comparison? He's 3 inches shorter, that's a substantial difference. Barkov isn't anywhere near as impactful if he is 6:00.

Frondell is a lot more likely to give you Ryan Kesler impact than Barkov and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Ok, but where is your Toews? And your Hossa. And your Saad. And your Sharp.

You find Sharp and Saad the exact same place as Chicago did, THE DRAFT. Saad was a 2nd and Sharp a 3rd. Bruins might have their Saad in Geekie and Pastrnak is certainly better than Hossa. Also they had a great pair of D-Men in Seabrook and Keith.

You may have a better chance luring Matthews here by offer sheeting Knies than getting a Cup caliber #1 center in this draft.

 

[wintersej]

You find Sharp and Saad the exact same place as Chicago did, THE DRAFT. Saad was a 2nd and Sharp a 3rd. Bruins might have their Saad in Geekie and Pastrnak is certainly better than Hossa. Also they had a great pair of D-Men in Seabrook and Keith.

You may have a better chance luring Matthews here by offer sheeting Knies than getting a Cup caliber #1 center in this draft.

Pasta is the Kane.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Why Barkov comparison? He's 3 inches shorter, that's a substantial difference. Barkov isn't anywhere near as impactful if he is 6:00.

Frondell is a lot more likely to give you Ryan Kesler impact than Barkov and there is nothing wrong with that.

All that matters to Bader is points. Not size, not style, nothing else but points.He’s the NHLe guy.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Pasta is the Kane.

That's fine but as I said Seabrook and Keith were studs and you have a big question mark with Lindholm's knee. Bruins I believe will sign one FA Forward and maybe bring Marchand back.

 

[Bruin4]

You find Sharp and Saad the exact same place as Chicago did, THE DRAFT. Saad was a 2nd and Sharp a 3rd. Bruins might have their Saad in Geekie and Pastrnak is certainly better than Hossa. Also they had a great pair of D-Men in Seabrook and Keith.

You may have a better chance luring Matthews here by offer sheeting Knies than getting a Cup caliber #1 center in this draft.

offer sheeting knies should be an option, if not by the Bruins hopefully someone out there does.

AAV	Compensation
$1 - $1,511,701	None
$1,5111,701 - $2,290,457	1 3rd-round pick
$2,290,457 - $4,580,917	1 2nd-round pick
$4,580,917 - $6,871,374	1 1st-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$6,871,374 - $9,161,834	1 1st-round pick, 1 2nd-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$9,161,834 - $11,452,294	2 1st-round picks, 1 2nd-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$11,452,294 or more	4 1st-round picks

 

[Boston Bandit]

Sounds like you’ve really dug in and done some extensive analysis. Not sure how anyone could argue with the questionable attitude around teddy bears.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

You find Sharp and Saad the exact same place as Chicago did, THE DRAFT. Saad was a 2nd and Sharp a 3rd. Bruins might have their Saad in Geekie and Pastrnak is certainly better than Hossa. Also they had a great pair of D-Men in Seabrook and Keith.

You may have a better chance luring Matthews here by offer sheeting Knies than getting a Cup caliber #1 center in this draft.

Better offensive player.

Not the better all-around player.

 

[neelynugs]

well.......this is not ideal. let's go devils

 

[Bruin4]

well.......this is not ideal. let's go devils

Bruins were bound to get some bounces. Glad for Pasta and for them, losing sucks!

I think they'll be all right, everyone else is winning right now and if Seattle can pull another one out, nothing would have changed standings wise other than gaining 2 on Philly.

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

Wait...your top 3 is Desnoyers, Bear, then McQueen? For top 3 overall? And you're worried about Sweeney botching it? lol

I'm talking about where they end up. Schaefer 1 Misa 2 and so on. We pick 4 or 5 I take Desnoyers. We drop into that 7 or 8 area it's whichever of Bear or McQueen is left (assuming the health issues are non issues). This draft drops off quickly and I'd rather not take a D man unless it's impossible to say no because he's clearly the BPA. I'm looking for players who might fit and fill holes in the skeleton of this roster.
If there's no medical issue yes, I am taking Bear higher than some of the rankings, although I have seen him wildly all over the place from 6 to about 15.