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Draft and UDFA Thread 2018-19: Part II

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offdacrossbar said:
seems like we have a decent stock of young dmen now but if hes the BPA then im all in. hes gonna be a good one.
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I like our stock, lots of interesting pieces, but i don't see any of them being a #1. At best, one of them will become a McDonagh, but we need a Doughty/Hedman/OEL/Subban.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Alright. I have some observations from this weekend's tournament in Hodonin with some new players to focus on.

Lev Komissarov
This 18-year old went undrafted last summer but he was on fire. He had a great tournament and is definitely a kid I want to monitor further to see if he might be a potential late round candidate. Defensively responsible as well.

Mikhail Shalagin
Another kid that went undrafted who was a bright spot on an already good Russian team. Looked extremely good against Sweden, with smooth skating and very, very quick transitioning. Not a 200-foot game type player, but in the offensive zone, he was causing turnovers that lead to great scoring-chances.

Then there are the obvious candidates.

Pavel Dorofeyev
Had a quiet tournament but when he was on the ice, he was making things happen. It certainly showed glimpses of what he can do.

Vasili Podkolzin
Electrifying, buzzing. I don't know what I can say that does justice to what he did out there as a 17-year old. He gives it all, and it was very noticable everytime he got back to the bench. He was out of breath every time. Even sitting down when the team went to the locker room at the end of the 1st.

Already drafted players Kravtsov and Denisenko were dominant as expected. Kravtsov playing at center and still being so dominant was a good thing to see.
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Thanks, AK!! Shalagin also has a few KHL in the books for this year. Could be a late bloomer!!
 
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ManUtdTobbe said:
Why is is so quiet surrounding Nathan Légaré in comparison to Lavoie and Pelletier? Haven't watched any Dakkar this year but going by the stats he should be spoken about in the same breath (probably ahead) of those two players. Scored a nice PP goal last night too, very good shot generation
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Saw some video on him the other day and he's good. His spot is at home plate or, in other words, right in front of the net and in between the hash marks. He's got a finishing touch and edge to his game. Good motor in the transition game. He plays wing, but has had some success in the faceoff dot. He's also got a decent first pass. His style reminds me of an edgier Marcus Sorensen, but I could see him as a mainstay, middle-6 grinder in the pros.
 
Kinda surprised that no one is really talking about Victor Soderstrom. Strong two-way game and decision making in all three zones. Finally getting some SHL time. Looks like a better version of Pionk.
 
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Edge said:
I really like this kid.

I know there are some great center prospects out there, but I REALLY like this kid.
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I mean if there's one weakness in our pipeline it certainly is wingers. Outside of Kratsov its kinda barren
 
Hopefully, he's there later in the draft because the Rangers keep winning!! Like I'm not sure if I should be happy or angry!!

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Something that should be talked about in the next CBA should be opening up channels for formulation of a transfer agreement between the KHL and NHL. It would allow for young Russian players to come to team training camps to win spots, but would allow them to be loaned back to their KHL team to get ice time. Use some of that TV deal money to get it done, Gary. The Russians speak two languages. Russian and Money.

What scares me about a prospect in Podzolkin's scenario is that he has 3 years left in his contract with SKA. He's not going to get much ice time playing on a loaded KHL team. Based on what I've seen, he could step into the NHL next year. Unless the Rangers think that they can send 'ol Glen to Russia to bring him to the US in the dead of the Russian night like Pittsburgh did with Malkin to get him out of his contract years back, I would stay away.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Something that should be talked about in the next CBA should be opening up channels for formulation of a transfer agreement between the KHL and NHL. It would allow for young Russian players to come to team training camps to win spots, but would allow them to be loaned back to their KHL team to get ice time. Use some of that TV deal money to get it done, Gary. The Russians speak two languages. Russian and Money.

What scares me about a prospect in Podzolkin's scenario is that he has 3 years left in his contract with SKA. He's not going to get much ice time playing on a loaded KHL team. Based on what I've seen, he could step into the NHL next year. Unless the Rangers think that they can send 'ol Glen to Russia to bring him to the US in the dead of the Russian night like Pittsburgh did with Malkin to get him out of his contract years back, I would stay away.
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A transfer agreement could very well help Russian hockey as it would vastly reduce the incentive for the young top-end players to go to the CHL (which usually doesn't go very well IMO) and instead increase the competitiveness of the Russian junior leagues. And guys like Gusev have chosen to re-sign their contracts in the KHL (AFAIK) so it's not like all young stars will just up and leave for the NHL at the drop of a hat.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Something that should be talked about in the next CBA should be opening up channels for formulation of a transfer agreement between the KHL and NHL. It would allow for young Russian players to come to team training camps to win spots, but would allow them to be loaned back to their KHL team to get ice time. Use some of that TV deal money to get it done, Gary. The Russians speak two languages. Russian and Money.

What scares me about a prospect in Podzolkin's scenario is that he has 3 years left in his contract with SKA. He's not going to get much ice time playing on a loaded KHL team. Based on what I've seen, he could step into the NHL next year. Unless the Rangers think that they can send 'ol Glen to Russia to bring him to the US in the dead of the Russian night like Pittsburgh did with Malkin to get him out of his contract years back, I would stay away.
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So much wrong with this post. It isn't about money for the KHL. That's the last thing they worry about.
 
Edge said:
I really like this kid.

I know there are some great center prospects out there, but I REALLY like this kid.
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I don't know that he has any weaknesses.

How do you think he compares to Kravtsov as a prospect?
 
Savant said:
I don't know that he has any weaknesses.

How do you think he compares to Kravtsov as a prospect?
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On first blush, I think the offensive ceiling is right there — but I need to see more.

He’s more of a perpetual motion machine, with a lot of explosiveness. Kravtsov by comparison is a bit more elegant, almost like he’s gliding.

In terms of edge of your seat excitement, he’s more of that type.

Great hands, dangerous ability to play his shot. Not quite as much of a playmaker as Kravtsov, but maybe a greater threat to turn a play around on a dime.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Something that should be talked about in the next CBA should be opening up channels for formulation of a transfer agreement between the KHL and NHL. It would allow for young Russian players to come to team training camps to win spots, but would allow them to be loaned back to their KHL team to get ice time. Use some of that TV deal money to get it done, Gary. The Russians speak two languages. Russian and Money.

What scares me about a prospect in Podzolkin's scenario is that he has 3 years left in his contract with SKA. He's not going to get much ice time playing on a loaded KHL team. Based on what I've seen, he could step into the NHL next year. Unless the Rangers think that they can send 'ol Glen to Russia to bring him to the US in the dead of the Russian night like Pittsburgh did with Malkin to get him out of his contract years back, I would stay away.
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With how talented he actually is, I don't think he's NHL ready. He just got promoted to the KHL after tearing up both the MHL and the VHL. He's going to need seasoning against actual pros before coming over. I think the 3 year contract is nothing, especially for a rebuilding team. Plus, one wouldn't want to risk taking a player like he is high unless you know he's gonna be a few years from coming over. It's not like he's tearing up the KHL, ATM.

With that said, I have no doubt that he'll play in SKA's top 9 with PP time next season. He's too skilled and energetic to be in the bottom 6. It's either that or he gets moved to a team that'll give him the opportunity.
 
Joey Bones said:
With how talented he actually is, I don't think he's NHL ready. He just got promoted to the KHL after tearing up both the MHL and the VHL. He's going to need seasoning against actual pros before coming over. I think the 3 year contract is nothing, especially for a rebuilding team. Plus, one wouldn't want to risk taking a player like he is high unless you know he's gonna be a few years from coming over. It's not like he's tearing up the KHL, ATM.

With that said, I have no doubt that he'll play in SKA's top 9 with PP time next season. He's too skilled and energetic to be in the bottom 6. It's either that or he gets moved to a team that'll give him the opportunity.
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Or SKA buries him just because they can. Love the kid, hate his team and the consequences of this.
 
What are we thinking of the overagers Samuel Fagemo and Matthew Struthers?

Fagemo put up 24-12-36 in 42 GP in SuperElit last year and has put up 10-4-14 in 8 GP this year with 4-4-8 in 13 GP in the SHL on top of that. NHLe conversion has his current season as almost equivalent to what Kravtsov is doing in the KHL (Fagemo 0.33 AdjP/GP, Kravtsov 0.34 AdjP/GP).

Struthers put up 25-24-49 in 62 GP between Sound Attack/Battallion int the OHL last year, he excelled after the trade though putting up 14-13-27 in 30 GP. He has 12-15-27 in 16 GP so far this year, which with NHLe conversion is equivalent to the 4-4-8 in 13 GP that Zadina has put up in the AHL (0.26 AdjP/GP).

Now I haven't watched a second of either of these guys, or talked to anyone who has, but on paper they are tracking as really good prospects.
 
Blue Blooded said:
What are we thinking of the overagers Samuel Fagemo and Matthew Struthers?

Fagemo put up 24-12-36 in 42 GP in SuperElit last year and has put up 10-4-14 in 8 GP this year with 4-4-8 in 13 GP in the SHL on top of that. NHLe conversion has his current season as almost equivalent to what Kravtsov is doing in the KHL (Fagemo 0.33 AdjP/GP, Kravtsov 0.34 AdjP/GP).

Struthers put up 25-24-49 in 62 GP between Sound Attack/Battallion int the OHL last year, he excelled after the trade though putting up 14-13-27 in 30 GP. He has 12-15-27 in 16 GP so far this year, which with NHLe conversion is equivalent to the 4-4-8 in 13 GP that Zadina has put up in the AHL (0.26 AdjP/GP).

Now I haven't watched a second of either of these guys, or talked to anyone who has, but on paper they are tracking as really good prospects.
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Struthers seem to come out looking good in every kind of prospect analysis data we have available. Will be interesting to see how he looks in Mitch Browns tracking Project. I'll make sure to catch some Fagemo games and dig into his numbers a bit.
 
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