Value of: Doughty to Toronto

[KingCanadain1976]

So Toronto wants to get a top 10 D-man in the league, and not give up anything of significant value.

LA wants cheap entry level scoring because of their cap situation, but isn't willing to part with Muzzin or Doughty.

Wrong most king fan are ok with trading muzzin as long as the return gets us what we need.

 

[Liferleafer]

Wrong most king fan are ok with trading muzzin as long as the return gets us what we need.

Oh, Kadri's not available.....

 

[mildlyominous]

So Toronto wants to get a top 10 D-man in the league, and not give up anything of significant value.

LA wants cheap entry level scoring because of their cap situation, but isn't willing to part with Muzzin or Doughty.

Who said the leafs wouldn't give anything of significant value up? The leafs have a plethora of young forwards who project to be high scorers in this league. Who said some of those guys arnt moveable?

 

[KingCanadain1976]

As usual....we agree.

I think the big wigs around here and your media should run there king leaf trade ideas thru us to make sure at least it makes sense lol Later Lifer nice to agree again as normal

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Oh, Kadri's not available.....

lmao niether is muzzin for jvr

 

[TheDoldrums]

Wait for him to possibly hit the open market. I don't think it's guaranteed he re-signs in LA. The future of that franchise in terms of contending doesn't seem that strong. Doughty might want to move on and Toronto could be an attractive destination.

 

[theMajor]

So Toronto wants to get a top 10 D-man in the league, and not give up anything of significant value.

LA wants cheap entry level scoring because of their cap situation, but isn't willing to part with Muzzin or Doughty.

its much, much harder/more expensive to get a top 10 Dman (really top 3) than it is to get cheap, entry level scoring. these arent even close to being the same. FWIW, most Kings fans are on board with trading Muzzin for scoring help

 

[kingsholygrail]

So Toronto wants to get a top 10 D-man in the league, and not give up anything of significant value.

LA wants cheap entry level scoring because of their cap situation, but isn't willing to part with Muzzin or Doughty.

Pretty sure Muzzin can be for sale a lot easier than Doughty.

 

[Gavy]

I think the only reasonable deals would be...

Matthews/Doughty
Doughty+Brown for Marner or Nylander

LOL you said reasonable then mentioned Matthews lmfao

 

[KingCanadain1976]

People can we just simple keep it to both teams saying no without mentioning names This is what will cause derailment in this thread

 

[orbiter11]

Yea I was thinking of how to fix the Kings, and no young skill is there problem. Marner,Gardiner and a first is probably in the ball park.But the Kings real problem is there older contracts. One of the stipulations would be wed have to take Gaborik or Brown back.

 

[3074326]

LOL you said reasonable then mentioned Matthews lmfao

When your own fanbase asks for Drew Doughty, this is what you should expect.

As a fan of neither team, if you want Doughty, it would require Matthews. lmfao

 

[nbwingsfan]

LOL you said reasonable then mentioned Matthews lmfao

That's probably the closest trade in value. Only other comparable I could see would be Marner + Rielly

 

[Lays]

matthews or nothing pretty much. Marner + Rielly could work

 

[WTFMAN99]

It's gonna be a long couple of years.

If you trade Doughty, you have to trade everyone north of age 27, because it all falls apart without him. I know he's not the most popular player on this forum, but without him, this team is in the gutter. Kopitar is magic, but Doughty is the linchpin, two completely different Kings teams played this year, the one with Drew on the ice, and the one without.

I don't think him moving on to TO is that far fetched, but even as a given, you're gonna have to give up assets you don't want to. As for suggesting that will hurt TOs future, well, getting a top-3 defenseman in the game to shore up your top pairing and slot everyone correctly is easily more valuable than Willie Nylander.

Most fans *get it* in terms of the cost.

Nylander
1st round pick

Just guessing here but imagine that Los Angeles would want Carrick in the deal to get them a good young defenseman

So add Carrick

to make the money work and everything for the Leafs, we add 1 of Marincin/Marchenko

Nylander
1st
Carrick
Marchenko/Marincin

Not trying to insult but how is this for a conversation starter?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Most fans *get it* in terms of the cost.

Nylander
1st round pick

Just guessing here but imagine that Los Angeles would want Carrick in the deal to get them a good young defenseman

So add Carrick

to make the money work and everything for the Leafs, we add 1 of Marincin/Marchenko

Nylander
1st
Carrick
Marchenko/Marincin

Not trying to insult but how is this for a conversation starter?

That's not a very good conversation starter. I guess it's good if you are a Leafs fan however.

 

[tmlfan98]

There is absolutely no way this is happening. The asking price would be through the roof, and rightfully so.

 

[Liferleafer]

lmao niether is muzzin for jvr

Touche

 

[WTFMAN99]

That's not a very good conversation starter. I guess it's good if you are a Leafs fan however.

Very insightful, truly.

 

[Choralone]

It's gonna be a long couple of years.

Good God. It's going to be so bad that we're going to be nostalgic for Doughty vs Karlsson threads, aren't we?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Very insightful, truly.

How about the Kings offer up Kempe, a 1st rounder, Gravel and a spare, useless 7th defenseman to Toronto for Matthews.

How's that for a conversation starter?

 

[orbiter11]

The Kings no there not getting Matthews. There's not a player other then Mcdavid that the Leafs would be willing to move Matthews for. The question isn't so much value, just if the Kings would be willing to move Doughty. Ideally in a retool/build they'd keep Kopitar and Doughty and move everyone else including Carter, Quick even Toffoli and get back a Kings ransom.

 

[yourbestfriend]

To get Doughty to the Leafs, it would take a proposal that every single Leafs fan would hate, and then they would have to add a bit more.

Long term, they're better off staying the course and being patient.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Muzzin and Martinez I'd trade.

Doughty not so much.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

I honestly don't think Doughty for Marner or Nylander + is a terrible basis for a trade, especially if LA isn't confident they can re-sign Doughty.

It's a big risk for Toronto, but players like Doughty in their prime don't just become readily available. Imagine what he would contribute to that team in the playoffs. I think the Leafs would have a good chance of retaining him as well.

If Doughty is ever made available, there would be a long list of teams putting their chips on the table.