Management Don Sweeney V
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Dennis Bonvie
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Honestly, learning doesn't seem to be the front office's strong suit. They repeat the same mistakes each year dating back to when the gang was the gang+1.
Ice Nine
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Who's "rebuffing" the President?!? Can't be CJ. Nor Sweeney. Would it be Charlie? I'd put my money on JJ. Amirite?
Seems to make sense to me. CJ is a proven winner -- won a Cup in 2011 and is the B's most winning coach in the team's history.
In his post-playing career, what the hell has Cam done, other than preside over the steady decline of a Cup contender?
If he's being rebuffed, I can understand the thinking.
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In hindsight Sweeney would've been better served accepting the 1st 2nd 3rd in 2016, as Calgary had the 6th overall in 2016 as opposed to the 15th overall in 2015.
I realize you're not a fan of Hamilton at all, but even you cannot deny that at the time of the trade Dougie was highly regarded throughout the league, viewed as a big young smooth up and coming top pairing dman. Surely he could've returned a young roster player of similar value.
In my opinion Sweeney completely botched tat trade. I believe history will not look to kindly on that move from a Bruins perspective. Neither of those picks are helping the Bruins yet, so at this point it's a loss. Time will tell.
LouJersey
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Brian Burke has said he outbid 12 teams to get Hamilton.
https://www.google.com/amp/calgaryh...urke-blasts-dougie-hamilton-trade-rumours/amp
So please everyone stop the Sweeney didn't shop him crap.
Exactly. All we know is what we saw on the ice,an obviously talented player with no physicality and prone to dumbfounding decisions. Beyond that,we heard about his unhappiness and his timidity in the lockerroom after the trade. We have no idea what all the talk or perception was among hockey insiders,and I don't mean journalists.
ODAAT
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never understood it either WBC8, I recall Treliving on either Hockey Central at Noon down here or with Prime Time sports saying the same thing about out bidding teams although he didn`t give the number of teams competing for Hamilton
Now, to be fair, no clue what others may or may not have offered DS
ODAAT
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I would be interested to know the quality of those other trades; if they would truly have been beneficial to the Bruins that year or even this year.
You believe everything Burke says; you sure he wasn't just talking like a used car salesman?
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FWIW, I'm wondering when was the last time a team was able to use just draft picks to move up into the top 5 in the draft, or even the top 10. And Sweeny was sitting at 13, 14, 15 picks. In a cap age teams just don't trade away top 10 draft picks for picks lower in the draft, teams have to give up a significant player for the team with the high pick to even consider it.
I don't know. That draft was considered deep so 3 mid first round picks probably had more value than other drafts. Sweeney mentioned he couldn't swap them for a defenseman,so we'll find at some point if Senyshyn,DeBrusk and Zboril were not worth one of Hanafin (3),Werenski (8) or Provorov(7).
Oates2Neely
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Justin Schultz (Oilers castoff) is now 4th in NHL in dman scoring 8g 28a 36p and a +28. How did Pittsburgh acquire him, trade? UFA?
Dr Quincy
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The B's have gone from 96 pts before Sweeney to 93 pts and now on pace for 88 pts. By the objective standards of actually winning games (which used to be important around here) the team is in worse shape than they were last year (and that was worse than the year before and that was worse than the year before and that was worse than the year before)
The offense is non-existent as the team is 22nd in 5 on 5 goal scoring. The team is not at all resilient (despite spending millions to add great leader David Backes). In fact, they are 28th in the league in goal differential when trailing by 1. COL and ARI and NJ and BUF are all better at getting that tying goal than the Bruins are.
It's nice to have a list of your favorite Sweeney moves, and he has made some good ones, but the ultimate goal is to win. I don't see the team reducing prices for tickets and saying "Hey don't expect us to win until Jacob Zboril can buy a beer", so it's totally fair to say that Sweeney has by objective standards made the current team worse than the one he inherited.
Will the 2021 season be a rousing success? Maybe. But there's no telling that he'll be around to see it.
The offense is non-existent as the team is 22nd in 5 on 5 goal scoring. The team is not at all resilient (despite spending millions to add great leader David Backes). In fact, they are 28th in the league in goal differential when trailing by 1. COL and ARI and NJ and BUF are all better at getting that tying goal than the Bruins are.
It's nice to have a list of your favorite Sweeney moves, and he has made some good ones, but the ultimate goal is to win. I don't see the team reducing prices for tickets and saying "Hey don't expect us to win until Jacob Zboril can buy a beer", so it's totally fair to say that Sweeney has by objective standards made the current team worse than the one he inherited.
Will the 2021 season be a rousing success? Maybe. But there's no telling that he'll be around to see it.
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Guy yesterday at Dunkin Donuts starts ranting at me (should have gone through drive thru and dealt with them screwing up order) about Bruins are poorly run from Jacobs on down. When I mentioned Chicago went 1-7-3-1-11 from 2004-2008 and got their core is he up for 5 years of complete garbage
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DKH
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I am so ready to pick in bottom 5 for years
I love the Leafs model accumulate top 10 picks
Dr Quincy
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That's an awesome strawman argument Dan since I'm not arguing finishing last. But hey it's easier to fight windmills that aren't there than to admit that your hero has made the team worse every year he's been on the job.
Congrats.
And boy it is totally a good thing we didn't get Vesey since we have 8 LWs better and our goal scoring isn't a problem at all.
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They have more talent than Arizona, COL and NJ. Yet when behind by 1 they give up goals at a higher rate than they do when tied or ahead. When behind by 1 they score goals at a lower rate than they do when ahead. Now there's all sorts of reasons why that may be happening, and it may have nothing to do with fight and effort level. It may be coaching. It may be lack of talent. But that they are the 2nd worst team in the league when behind a goal says SOMETHING, and whatever it is, it isn't good.
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Because we are on a secret HF texting chat group I know you know more about this. I think if the truth was out there 80 % would flip on Dougie and the other 20 % wouldn't change no matter what
I will say one supposed offer I thought was better than what he got draft day 2015 but it looks like in hindsight the deal could be a heck of a yield
Time will tell
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