Management Don Sweeney IV

[bobber]

If Sweeny has done so much to fill up the prospect cupboard shouldn't there be a few new players on the team besides Carlo? Some of the players from the last couple of drafts should be making a bit of a splash if they were that skilled.

 

[Pia8988]

If Sweeny has done so much to fill up the prospect cupboard shouldn't there be a few new players on the team besides Carlo? Some of the players from the last couple of drafts should be making a bit of a splash if they were that skilled.

Czarnik, Acciari. There are only so many slots open for players. Four of the slots are being taken up by free agents with Backes, Nash, Moore, and Schaller.

 

[DKH]

If Sweeny has done so much to fill up the prospect cupboard shouldn't there be a few new players on the team besides Carlo? Some of the players from the last couple of drafts should be making a bit of a splash if they were that skilled.

Was he in a prison in Turkey when they drafted Pastrnak

Come on man I thought you were better than this

 

[Dr Quincy]

Was he in a prison in Turkey when they drafted Pastrnak

Come on man I thought you were better than this

He was there. Just like he was there in 2008 when they passed on John Carlson for Joe Colbourne, and 2009 when he passed on Palmieri for Jordan Caron, and 2010 when he passed on Justin Faulk for Jordan Knight (hmm I remember someone being super high on that pick), and 2011 when they picked Khoko over Saad, and 2012 when they took Subban over Skjei or Tanner Pearson. He was also there when they decided that Eriksson, Morrow, Smith and that other dude were a good return for Seguin.

So, if you are going to give him credit for every good decision made when he was "part" of the front office, let's give him some of the blame as well. Or was he in a Turkish prison during those drafts?

PS: I've liked almost every move he's made since he's become a GM, but the endless spin to prop him up is a little excessive.

 

[DKH]

He was there. Just like he was there in 2008 when they passed on John Carlson for Joe Colbourne, and 2009 when he passed on Palmieri for Jordan Caron, and 2010 when he passed on Justin Faulk for Jordan Knight (hmm I remember someone being super high on that pick), and 2011 when they picked Khoko over Saad, and 2012 when they took Subban over Skjei or Tanner Pearson. He was also there when they decided that Eriksson, Morrow, Smith and that other dude were a good return for Seguin.

So, if you are going to give him credit for every good decision made when he was "part" of the front office, let's give him some of the blame as well. Or was he in a Turkish prison during those drafts?

PS: I've liked almost every move he's made since he's become a GM, but the endless spin to prop him up is a little excessive.

I'm on a Death Wish here. It will all be over soon. You guys can have the board. I'll read and talk about it to friends just getting my final support in

 

[pkunit]

He was there. Just like he was there in 2008 when they passed on John Carlson for Joe Colbourne, and 2009 when he passed on Palmieri for Jordan Caron, and 2010 when he passed on Justin Faulk for Jordan Knight (hmm I remember someone being super high on that pick), and 2011 when they picked Khoko over Saad, and 2012 when they took Subban over Skjei or Tanner Pearson. He was also there when they decided that Eriksson, Morrow, Smith and that other dude were a good return for Seguin.

So, if you are going to give him credit for every good decision made when he was "part" of the front office, let's give him some of the blame as well. Or was he in a Turkish prison during those drafts?

PS: I've liked almost every move he's made since he's become a GM, but the endless spin to prop him up is a little excessive.

If Jesus was our GM you'd probably tear him too.

I wouldn't trade the Bruins roster and cupbord for many others.

 

[Dr Quincy]

If Jesus was our GM you'd probably tear him too.

I wouldn't trade the Bruins roster and cupbord for many others.

Read the last line of my post again. I've liked almost every move he's made as a GM. I'm saying that if you want to give him credit for every good decision the team has made, even ones before he became GM, then it's only fair to say he shares some blame for the bad decisions too.

Novel idea I know.

And as for your last statement: Right now the B's roster is mid- of the pack. We know that, because that's where they've been for 2 1/8 seasons.

As for the cupboard? That seems to be mid of the pack too. I like their pics, but 1 bluechip under 25 F, and 2 under 20 bluechip D (and a handful of decent ones) isn't the envy of the league. It's good, but not great.

 

[pkunit]

Read the last line of my post again. I've liked almost every move he's made as a GM. I'm saying that if you want to give him credit for every good decision the team has made, even ones before he became GM, then it's only fair to say he shares some blame for the bad decisions too.

Novel idea I know.

And as for your last statement: Right now the B's roster is mid- of the pack. We know that, because that's where they've been for 2 1/8 seasons.

As for the cupboard? That seems to be mid of the pack too. I like their pics, but 1 bluechip under 25 F, and 2 under 20 bluechip D (and a handful of decent ones) isn't the envy of the league. It's good, but not great.

Name some teams and their prospects that you trade our group for.
We're middle of the pack so I'm expecting 10 -15 teams

 

[pkunit]

Panthers
Oilers
Help I'm beginning to struggle

 

[SpitfireIX]

In the closed Hamilton-Carlo thread you were quick point out the Flames were good with Dougie and wouldn't even know the 3 picks

Um. He is a dumpster fire and last night at the Bruins game his name came up and it was mentioned he sure misses Chara covering up his poor decisions and positional play

Ouch

Ironically I went home in time to see him play D like a matador.

This morning I perused through the Flames game thread and he is roasted pretty good even called slow to react and slow to adjust in separate posts by different posters

You need to give it up - we all make wrong assessments. I hated the Bergeron pick and picked the Canucks in 5 in 2011 in my many views

I'm wrong about Hamilton- shocked about his hockey IQ. I would have paid him and traded for him even with some perceived warts

A guy I went to Prague with in 2010 told me last night the Flames unless Hamilton gets it together will likely be shopped

I forgot to ask what his clauses are

It would be interesting if they exposed him in expansion

I need to give it up lol. Your calling Dougie Hamilton a dumpster fire. Who cares about some guy you went to Prague with! How am I ridiculous when your citing a guy you went to Prague with and people from last nights Bruins game!! Your going to look pretty smart when Calgary exposes Hamilton to waivers...

 

[mikelvl]

Hamilton is a very good offensive defenseman who, at times, is an absolute dumpster fire in his own end. The Bruins may win that trade

 

[chizzler]

People are getting excited with this too much. Sweeney's hands are tied somewhat. We all know what really must happen for this franchise to move forward. The problem lies in that he has a boss that owns the team and wants to make money. Weather it's short sided or not, he has the right to tell his GM to make the playoffs. Some of these transactions are based in that and some aren't. Some are the inexperience of Sweeney. Some are also what I believe he ultimately wants to do and that is go with younger kids.

My belief is that something ultimately will have to break if they don't make the playoffs. I have no idea who's head will roll if they don't. It could be anyone. It's foolish to think any other guy could do a lot better under those circumstances that are in place. Some guys do have the ability to think out of the box. You would have to put them in Sweenys shoes when he got hired. This team would have benifittrd from Hamilton being on the team because of the total badness of the defensive group. Is that saying he's the answer, far from it. I don't think he did so bad on the trade. I also wouldn't grade Sweeny in that trade alone. I'm rooting for him to fix this. I'm a little weary of them trading with any team, as that their track record on trades and evaluations of the pro player are horrible. I hope the Trouba trade doesn't hurt too much if it does go through.

 

[finchster]

He was there. Just like he was there in 2008 when they passed on John Carlson for Joe Colbourne, and 2009 when he passed on Palmieri for Jordan Caron, and 2010 when he passed on Justin Faulk for Jordan Knight (hmm I remember someone being super high on that pick), and 2011 when they picked Khoko over Saad, and 2012 when they took Subban over Skjei or Tanner Pearson. He was also there when they decided that Eriksson, Morrow, Smith and that other dude were a good return for Seguin.

So, if you are going to give him credit for every good decision made when he was "part" of the front office, let's give him some of the blame as well. Or was he in a Turkish prison during those drafts?

PS: I've liked almost every move he's made since he's become a GM, but the endless spin to prop him up is a little excessive.

Sweeney is the guy for a certain segment of the fan base, I don't really mind if they want to support their guy. Besides, since when has polite and thoughtful discourse been entertaining?

I can't say that I hated any particular move by Sweeney when viewed in a vacuum, with the exception of signing Beleskey. But I don't like the moves when you put them all together.

 

[neelynugs]

BTW, looks like it's curtains for Boyes and it looks like I fell short by 7 goals on our bet for 50 from a decade ago, lol. Don't know if you ever get to Ottawa, but if you do I'll meet you at Brookside where the Bruins stay. If not, PM me and I will pay up.

ha - no plans to be up in ottawa, but let's call it a draw. pretty surprised he even hit 40 goals.

 

[Blowfish]

How much is Neely influencing some of the bonehead decisions last 3 years. My guess is he had Chia trade Seguin, fired Chia, he wanted Sweeney to make the playoffs last year requesting to trade draft picks for plugs and hold onto to Erickson.

Hoping he's the first to go.

Look what Chia pulled off in his short tenure in Edmonton? Stupid moves were all on Neely.

 

[kdog82]

When a team is average like the Bruins have been the last couple of years, you should always draft the best player available no matter what.

14-15-16 and Sweeney failed to Draft Konecny and Connor. Zboril was the best player available at 14 I suppose but the other 2 are question marks. While they both may end up being nhler's the others (Konecny and Connor) are already in the show.

 

[Over the volcano]

When a team is average like the Bruins have been the last couple of years, you should always draft the best player available no matter what.

14-15-16 and Sweeney failed to Draft Konecny and Connor. Zboril was the best player available at 14 I suppose but the other 2 are question marks. While they both may end up being nhler's the others (Konecny and Connor) are already in the show.

Used to be Barzal and Connor, now its Konecny and Connor. . what happened to switch the pair he missed on ?

 

[Baddkarma]

He was there. Just like he was there in 2008 when they passed on John Carlson for Joe Colbourne, and 2009 when he passed on Palmieri for Jordan Caron, and 2010 when he passed on Justin Faulk for Jordan Knight (hmm I remember someone being super high on that pick), and 2011 when they picked Khoko over Saad, and 2012 when they took Subban over Skjei or Tanner Pearson. He was also there when they decided that Eriksson, Morrow, Smith and that other dude were a good return for Seguin.

So, if you are going to give him credit for every good decision made when he was "part" of the front office, let's give him some of the blame as well. Or was he in a Turkish prison during those drafts?

PS: I've liked almost every move he's made since he's become a GM, but the endless spin to prop him up is a little excessive.

In retrospect, I would have made all the correct decisions as well.

 

[pierre gagnon*]

When a team is average like the Bruins have been the last couple of years, you should always draft the best player available no matter what.

14-15-16 and Sweeney failed to Draft Konecny and Connor. Zboril was the best player available at 14 I suppose but the other 2 are question marks. While they both may end up being nhler's the others (Konecny and Connor) are already in the show.

A big mistake to draft what Bob Mackenzie wants everyone to do. Barzal and Connor have beem putting up Koko numbers and performances so far. Smallish offensive centers we had them and they cannot crack the team with Bergy and Krech here. Julien will always want his big plugger binkies. That is what probably scarred off Connor at the interview and Vesey looked elsewhere, not a place for guys looking to put up pts and play purely offensive.

 

[Estlin]

When a team is average like the Bruins have been the last couple of years, you should always draft the best player available no matter what.

14-15-16 and Sweeney failed to Draft Konecny and Connor. Zboril was the best player available at 14 I suppose but the other 2 are question marks. While they both may end up being nhler's the others (Konecny and Connor) are already in the show.

The picks were 13-15. Zboril was the logical choice with one of them. Let's wait and see what Senyshyn and Debrusk do once they become regulars in the NHL.

 

[Ice Nine]

A big mistake to draft what Bob Mackenzie wants everyone to do. Barzal and Connor have beem putting up Koko numbers and performances so far. Smallish offensive centers we had them and they cannot crack the team with Bergy and Krech here. Julien will always want his big plugger binkies. That is what probably scarred off Connor at the interview and Vesey looked elsewhere, not a place for guys looking to put up pts and play purely offensive.

You've got to be kidding me. They're both 19 years old, FFS.

Spooner is a "smallish offensive center" and he not only "cracked the team" last year, he was our fifth best scorer, miles ahead of "biggish centers" like Landon Ferraro and Max Talbot.

Geez.

 

[DoubleAAAA]

How much is Neely influencing some of the bonehead decisions last 3 years. My guess is he had Chia trade Seguin, fired Chia, he wanted Sweeney to make the playoffs last year requesting to trade draft picks for plugs and hold onto to Erickson.

Hoping he's the first to go.

Look what Chia pulled off in his short tenure in Edmonton? Stupid moves were all on Neely.

The team is better, but not sure I'd give a tonne of credit to Chia for trading Hall and drafting McDavid.

 

[PB37]

How much is Neely influencing some of the bonehead decisions last 3 years. My guess is he had Chia trade Seguin, fired Chia, he wanted Sweeney to make the playoffs last year requesting to trade draft picks for plugs and hold onto to Erickson.

Hoping he's the first to go.

Look what Chia pulled off in his short tenure in Edmonton? Stupid moves were all on Neely.

Yeah, that Reinhert deal sure was the stuff that legends are made out of.

 

[BB88]

A big mistake to draft what Bob Mackenzie wants everyone to do. Barzal and Connor have beem putting up Koko numbers and performances so far. Smallish offensive centers we had them and they cannot crack the team with Bergy and Krech here. Julien will always want his big plugger binkies. That is what probably scarred off Connor at the interview and Vesey looked elsewhere, not a place for guys looking to put up pts and play purely offensive.

Hate to tell you but Connor plays Lw and he's going to be a player.

 

[Pia8988]

Hate to tell you but Connor plays Lw and he's going to be a player.

And can you definitively say none of Debrusk, Senyshyn, or Zboril will be?