Don Brennan should be FIRED!!!

[DrunkUncleDenis]

It's I think now not disputed that Karlsson has done after game scrums, its been mentioned several times in thread, before and after your comments.

Then you state this, after your 'apology'



to paraphrase: i haven't looked into this, but I still think i'm right....

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

This is HF Sens during a difficult year...so...

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

As silly as that might be, defending Brennan is one of the most absurd things to do on this board.

Also, Karlsson doesn't owe you or your son anything outside of those 60 minutes on the ice. Get over yourself.

It's called a social contract. The athlete gives a little more, it creates goodwill in the community, the community gives back to the team by buying more tickets, sweaters with his name on it and so on. Alfie was a master of this and you'd think Erik would have learned something from him...

It's also worth mentioning that the media vote on the Norris trophy. If Karlsson doesn't treat local media well then maybe he gets less first place votes and doesn't win a Norris or falls out of the top three. Choose your battles wisely if you are a profressional athlete.

 

[HavlatMach9]

It's called a social contract. The athlete gives a little more, it creates goodwill in the community, the community gives back to the team by buying more tickets, sweaters with his name on it and so on. Alfie was a master of this and you'd think Erik would have learned something from him.

Not speaking to Brennan is not a violation of the 'social contract'. They don't have to but they do, and Karlsson certainly does, the Boys and Girls club for one.

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

It's called a social contract. The athlete gives a little more, it creates goodwill in the community, the community gives back to the team by buying more tickets, sweaters with his name on it and so on. Alfie was a master of this and you'd think Erik would have learned something from him...

It's also worth mentioning that the media vote on the Norris trophy. If Karlsson doesn't treat local media well then maybe he gets less first place votes and doesn't win a Norris or falls out of the top three. Choose your battles wisely if you are a profressional athlete.

CERTAIN members of the media vote on the Norris. Garrioch is one of them. That brain-addled twit definitely does not.

As for "social contract" - EK will do just fine interacting with fans and the numerous charities around here. Or are you forgetting how the Sun wanted Alfredsson traded every other week when the Sens kept losing to the Leafs in the playoffs?

You have such selective memory.

 

[PaGEEsBack]

It's called a social contract. The athlete gives a little more, it creates goodwill in the community, the community gives back to the team by buying more tickets, sweaters with his name on it and so on. Alfie was a master of this and you'd think Erik would have learned something from him...

It's also worth mentioning that the media vote on the Norris trophy. If Karlsson doesn't treat local media well then maybe he gets less first place votes and doesn't win a Norris or falls out of the top three. Choose your battles wisely if you are a profressional athlete.

Alfie was an experienced veteran who learned through his own dealings with the media. He didn't walk in his rookie year loaded with (what I can only describe as) his 'Alfieness' he grew into the man through years of learning and doing - just like Erik will.

And the second point...

 

[GimmeMyJetpack]

It's I think now not disputed that Karlsson has done after game scrums, its been mentioned several times in thread, before and after your comments.

Then you state this, after your 'apology'



to paraphrase: i haven't looked into this, but I still think i'm right....

You took some liberties with your paraphrasing.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

From having met JR and Steve Warne, here's the deal with those guys:

They have some sort of false sense of superiority, I assume because they are heard, attend events, rub elbows with people in the sports industry etc. Having witnessed them in action, when in those situations, for example, the grand opening or Real Sports, they act almost starstruck, kind of like little sidekicks in admiration of their hero. But whatever, that's their thing and if they have to act like teenage girls at a Bieber concert, then whatever.

The problem is that it's disingenuous because they turn around and treat the listeners, which is who they should appreciate the most, like we don't know anything or our opinion is ours alone, they're right, we're wrong. It's called social climbing.

The thing is, we've seen people move up in their line of work, wether locally, nationally, whatever. But just for example, in our market, Galley, York and Mendes all got in front of them in the "depth chart", if you will. So whatever they're doing, people can see. They're small time local radio hacks that will never move up anywhere because:

a) They're knowledge of the game is very limited
b) They have nos respect for their audience
c) They're so far into their own "clique" that they think Don Brennan is a good interview.

I actually prefer Don Brennan, even if he is a bit of a ******, not afraid of going against the grain as opposed to those two ball sucking clowns.

Just do as I do, stop listening. All they talk about is what they read on here anyway, and there's some way more genuine and knowledgeable people on HF

Not only do i agree with what you say, i respect that you say it given that you're virtually the only poster here that doesn't hide behind a mask of anonymity.

We had to know this was all going to happen when JR was given the keys to the radio station. It's an old boy's club, and that stretches to the people they hire as hosts to the emails they read in the morning, and the so called experts they bring in for interviews and panels.

Galley is probably the most knowledgeable host the station has produced, and he got the hell out of here as soon as he had the opportunity. The same will probably be true of Jason York. Hell Mendez is only here because he wanted to settle down with a steady job.

Guys like AJ and Versage get shuffled around from post game shows to temporary fill in spots because JR and Steve will be doing the morning show till Yellowstone erupts.

For the most part I enjoy listening to the station, although I haven't listed to the morning show in years.

Brennan seems like a nice guy when he's on the radio, but he's so full of **** i can smell it over my computer.

 

[John Holmes*]

The players and coaches are obligated to speak to the media. It's part of their job.

There are undoubtedly mimimums required, and from what the article says, Karlsson is available on game days, when he needs to be, but not on other days, when he doesn't need to be.

Maybe he doesn't like doing media?

Brennan's job is to rustle jimmies, and it looks like he's done that pretty effectively.

It's schtick. Traditional media and reporters are already borderline irrelevant in this day and age. Even that is arguable, the case could be made that they are already completely obselete.

Brennan just got himself noticed. That's job security. The only way that you can get rid of columnists, talking heads and radio drones is to tune them out.

 

[Alfieghetti]

let me get this straight: some of you actually give a **** about the canned answers provided by hockey players? who actually gives a **** if this pathetic excuse for 'journalism' does or doesn't occur? don brennan is irrelevant, and should be treated as such by every player in my opinion.

 

[John Holmes*]

 

[Alfieghetti]

i didn't read the story, nor did I listen to him on the radio. is he affiliated with this site?

 

[BK201]

Do not care

 

[Jerk Store*]

Not only do i agree with what you say, i respect that you say it given that you're virtually the only poster here that doesn't hide behind a mask of anonymity.

We had to know this was all going to happen when JR was given the keys to the radio station. It's an old boy's club, and that stretches to the people they hire as hosts to the emails they read in the morning, and the so called experts they bring in for interviews and panels.

Galley is probably the most knowledgeable host the station has produced, and he got the hell out of here as soon as he had the opportunity. The same will probably be true of Jason York. Hell Mendez is only here because he wanted to settle down with a steady job.

Guys like AJ and Versage get shuffled around from post game shows to temporary fill in spots because JR and Steve will be doing the morning show till Yellowstone erupts.

For the most part I enjoy listening to the station, although I haven't listed to the morning show in years.

Brennan seems like a nice guy when he's on the radio, but he's so full of **** i can smell it over my computer.

Bah, no need to remain anonymous in saying that. I'm not a fan of theirs as professionals. That being said, they could very well be great people outside of work.

 

[coladin]

Your 12 year old sits around and watches post game scrums?

Every morning on TV and SensTV.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

some people have kids who idolize hockey players. It's not completely unreasonable to want a superstar to make a few sound bites before or after the game.

Don't raise your kids on soundbites.

That's how sweet talkin' corrupt politicians get elected and where so many useless social "crusades" start.

Teach your kids to read entire articles in the newspaper (reputable ones, not The Sun), and watch the full newscast instead of highlights.

 

[coladin]

Don't raise your kids on soundbites.

That's how sweet talkin' corrupt politicians get elected and where so many useless social "crusades" start.

Teach your kids to read entire articles in the newspaper (reputable ones, not The Sun), and watch the full newscast instead of highlights.

Rrrrriiiiiiggggghhht...spoken by someone who has no kids obviously and does not remember anything about their own childhood

 

[corksens]

I can only imagine the sense of being owed something you are imparting.

Karlsson is available when required. Simple as that.

 

[BatherSeason]

From having met JR and Steve Warne, here's the deal with those guys:

They have some sort of false sense of superiority, I assume because they are heard, attend events, rub elbows with people in the sports industry etc. Having witnessed them in action, when in those situations, for example, the grand opening or Real Sports, they act almost starstruck, kind of like little sidekicks in admiration of their hero. But whatever, that's their thing and if they have to act like teenage girls at a Bieber concert, then whatever.

The problem is that it's disingenuous because they turn around and treat the listeners, which is who they should appreciate the most, like we don't know anything or our opinion is ours alone, they're right, we're wrong. It's called social climbing.

The thing is, we've seen people move up in their line of work, wether locally, nationally, whatever. But just for example, in our market, Galley, York and Mendes all got in front of them in the "depth chart", if you will. So whatever they're doing, people can see. They're small time local radio hacks that will never move up anywhere because:

a) They're knowledge of the game is very limited
b) They have nos respect for their audience
c) They're so far into their own "clique" that they think Don Brennan is a good interview.

Just do as I do, stop listening. All they talk about is what they read on here anyway, and there's some way more genuine and knowledgeable people on HF

Very well stated. I agree 100%. I have seen them all at different events and you are bang on. Simmer is the absolute worst, he really thinks his ***** don't stink.

 

[Spex]

Rrrrriiiiiiggggghhht...spoken by someone who has no kids obviously and does not remember anything about their own childhood

I ahve 3 kids and I agree with everything he said

Teach your kids to idolize someone's work ethic, commitment, drive, etc... But don't teach/let your kids idolize someone who probably won't give a crap about them. EK, and other celebrities, have talent. But that talent doens't mean they're nice people (although personally, I assume EK is a great person. But that's just it...and assumption)

Swap your son's idolization of EK for any other celeb.. Do your comments still hold true?

 

[MainDotC]

11 pages for Don. He deserves it.

 

[Big Papi]

11 pages for Don. He deserves it.

I think its now up to 3 posts that you have added to a thread you don't think should exist...

 

[coladin]

I ahve 3 kids and I agree with everything he said

Teach your kids to idolize someone's work ethic, commitment, drive, etc... But don't teach/let your kids idolize someone who probably won't give a crap about them. EK, and other celebrities, have talent. But that talent doens't mean they're nice people (although personally, I assume EK is a great person. But that's just it...and assumption)

Swap your son's idolization of EK for any other celeb.. Do your comments still hold true?

I have 3 as well.

I am pretty comfortable of what I am teaching my kids, thanks for the advice though.
I don't want to hijack this thread on some other topic and I understand what you are saying as a parent. I really do.

I don't forget, though , what it was like to be a 12 year old kid. They tend to develop their own thoughts on things. When I was 12 I was the biggest Wayne Gretzky fan. Yes, it worked out great because Wayne Gretzky was a fantastic role model. That is part of growing up, kids tend to gravitate to their heroes, that is a great part of being a kid. I loved that feeling of waiting for Brian Smith to show the latest Wayne Gretzky highlight on CJOH at 6:41pm. I would leave the dinner table sometimes and watch his highlights. Had his book. Doll. Stick. Videos.

I am not saying for a moment that Erik Karlsson is or isn't a good role model. Haven't seen enough of him to know. but my son wanted his Heritage jersey, desperately and to see his face when he opened his present was priceless. That is part of the joy of being a kid, watching a game that he plays, relates to it as a defenceman himself.

I am not going to tell my son that EK probably doesn't give a crap about him. He is 12 and I want him to enjoy this time in his life. I am sure he will figure it out at some point. Why tell him that? Why spoil his experience with cynicism?

Would have loved to hear what he had to say after last night's game considering how great he was. He watched the highlights and told me how cool it was to see Cowen talk about his bad luck. Iy happened to my son so he knows how it feels.

And that is what pros do whether people here care or not. There are many who do.

 

[Alfieghetti]

nope, I think you're wrong on pretty much every count.

 

[coladin]

nope, I think you're wrong on pretty much every count.

I can live with that.