Dominique Ducharme. Interim head coach of the Habs thread

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BLONG7

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4-2 in the third. 4 on 4 hockey. Lets start with Danault. And end with Evans. Great way to protect the 2 goals deficit. « I was trying to protect the 2 goals lead, i mean deficit. You know it’s hard... »Ducharme.:sarcasm:
His strategy is very similar to Clod's. Insane..............absolutely insane.
I noticed his protecting the defecit too...lol
 

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Remember when:

- People said that the beginning of the season was all Ducharme
- Prospects will flourish under Ducharme compare to Julien
- The team will start being more offensive under Ducharme
- Ducharme was bringing a breath of fresh air
- Ducharme, knowing Drouin, will be able to use him accordingly

Good times!!!!

When it's the "ti-gars de chez nous", they all suddenly have skills and accomplished way more than they actually did.
It's a curse here in Montreal.

We put a familiar name in place, because of a lack of option, we invent them a great story and don't even realize these guys have done nothing.

Example:
Bouchard is great at developping players.....yet, he didn't develop a whole lot of players. One? Evans? A fourth liner.
Yet, that's how more than half the fan bases sees him. He might be a good one (like what I see from Ylonen, but until we have actual results, positive or negative, no one actually know.

Spoilers: Next french coach with a name will be great before even coaching a game with the Habs. Same for the GM.

I stand by what I've been saying that Julien should not have been fired.
Not at that point in the season. Not to be replace by a rookie coach who never did anything at the pro level. It might not have made any difference, but this move changed nothing either. Julien's firing should have happen this summer.
 

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Better off with Julien. Moving those coaches around is a waste of time and money. We've had a dozen, all same result. Coaching not the problem.
 

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It seems that Ducharme has been a little too groomed by CJ.

I don't know if it's Ducharme who can't cut it as an NHL coach at this very moment (doesn't mean he won't become a good one) or if he's been too influenced by Julien because the game plan seems to be the same.

I remember when Ducharme first took over, he was preaching the players staying closer together, giving each other options and support, moving back and forth as a 5-man unit. We saw that at the beginning. Now it seems they've reverted back to going for the stretch pass.
 

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It seems that Ducharme has been a little too groomed by CJ.

I don't know if it's Ducharme who can't cut it as an NHL coach at this very moment (doesn't mean he won't become a good one) or if he's been too influenced by Julien because the game plan seems to be the same.

I remember when Ducharme first took over, he was preaching the players staying closer together, giving each other options and support, moving back and forth as a 5-man unit. We saw that at the beginning. Now it seems they've reverted back to going for the stretch pass.
We seem to have the same coach for 12 years going back to Martin
 

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Add Jake Allen. Without the new guys we're barely ahead of Ottawa.

That said, imagine this team with the new guys AND most everyone else playing well. If Drouin wasn't a total bust; if Suzuki regained some of his control; if Weber was sharper; if Price was focused; if Gallagher was back. We're missing contributions from some key players.

That being said, all players have ups and downs. That monster contract for gally...we all said he plays a rough style. Didn't expect it like that perhaps, but it shows how he can and does get injured. Weber and price...not like we haven't predicted that either. They aren't elves and are immortal. Drouin was our saviour according to some(or he just repeated his usual). I had no hopes for suzuki and figured there would be too much of a weight on his shoulders. KK hasn't impressed but the kid hasn't had good stable linemates and is all over the place in the lineup(shades of chucky)

Toffi is our ONLY consistent goal scorer. Love it, but he doesn't do much else out there. OK pass, sorta hits, mostly just sniping. Anderson has been a wrecking ball but takes penalties as well. Fine if our PK wasn't a pile of dog doo doo. Allen has been playing as well as anyone could with the misfits playing in front of him.


I think the worse part aside from Doms very odd choices, such as danault in OT, is the complete lack of any chemistry or building with a purpose for this roster. MB found some nice pieces for once and I will give him credit, but still can't find the bits that mesh together well. Radulov was such a treat because he had skill but still did all the hard digging. I think that is why we all like perry. You can see the skill that once once there, something our vets have had leak out of them, or beat out of them from coaching. Perry knows how to play and hasn't been stuck in a terribad system like the habs have had for over a decade now.

Dom has zero chance of being HC next season. I just hope the same percentage applies to the guy who left him holding a bag of shit that Dom has to convince people is filled with gold. But we all can smell what is really lurking in that mess left behind by MB.
 

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Claude is a better coach, but I already knew this.

I maintain my position that coaching seldom matters, only when you have a shitty one that can potentially cost you games/development etc. DD is one of the worst coaches I’ve seen coach the habs in my lifetime. CJ had his pets like every coach, but this guy f***s up every line combo. His system is a complete mess. I wouldn’t fire him mid-season, but when MB is fired in the off-season I hope DD goes with him.
 
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It seems that Ducharme has been a little too groomed by CJ.

I don't know if it's Ducharme who can't cut it as an NHL coach at this very moment (doesn't mean he won't become a good one) or if he's been too influenced by Julien because the game plan seems to be the same.

I remember when Ducharme first took over, he was preaching the players staying closer together, giving each other options and support, moving back and forth as a 5-man unit. We saw that at the beginning. Now it seems they've reverted back to going for the stretch pass.

I don't think anything that is mentioned here can truly be done with the D we have. They simply don't have the puck skills for it.
 

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When you change coaches in a year that doesn't allow for practices because of the condensed schedule... that is a really smart move too.
 

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He's done. Unfortunate for him though. I think he should be able to be more than this. Not sure what the future holds......
 
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His strategy is very similar to Clod's. Insane..............absolutely insane.
I noticed his protecting the defecit too...lol

This... THIS!

Protect the deficit... FML.

What’s so annoying is like CJ, this freaking coaching staff just cannot adjust. I get wanting to force teams to play your style, but if you can’t, then counter theirs. I mean, the Flames have beaten us the EXACT same way every time. Figure it out FFS.
 
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Don't know how much the loss of Gallagher has changed his thought process. And perhaps the loss of Price. Really disappointed in how it is panning out no matter the reason. But the only way it would be a good reflection on MB is if he'd be winning a lot of games otherwise maybe it's just the crappy roster MB has puzzled together and no coach could magically change it.

There is no transition game so it seems with these new d-men. I'd rather see Mete and Kulak. I get they suck at D but I honestly don't think they were any worse than what it is out there now. They could at least skate. LOL
 

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This is a blessing in disguise . Bergevin might actually be on the hot seat boys. Instead of 5 more years i'm thinking only 2 or 3 more years of Bergevin and Da Plan until he gets fired. Things are looking good in habs land
 

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As badly as drouin has been playing, why would they play gust as a 7th D...along with merril in a must win game? Oh right because we have no one else due to cap space and a terrible GM. But getting gust over mete is a lose lose after seeing that game-though its hard to say with the ice time allotted. I don't follow the roster 100% so we had NO forwards available? What about Frolik?
I think its been established that the lineup decisions are basically tied to management now because it seems like from what the press has reported, Dom tried for 12 forwards but couldn't because of cap reassons. While some have criticized him for going with 7 d I think that's misplaced. That's on Bergevin because he wasted 3 recall spots and cap space just to pickup a depth defenseman.

I'm more sympathetic than some to the situation Dom is in. He isn't the "worst Canadiens coach" in team history than some comments suggest. He also isnt some savior that would magically fix this team. What I see is a coach who has a style he wants to play but lacked the time and proper players to execute it.

Now one thing that I think that does warrant criticism on is the lack of adjustments. The team struggles to move the puck out of the zone and makes clear defensive breakdowns that 95% of the time leads to a goal. It doesn't matter if its the system or players, it's on the coach to make an adjustment to correct it and whatever they are doing isnt working.
 

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He's done. Unfortunate for him though. I think he should be able to be more than this. Not sure what the future holds......

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+ High probability of alcoholism
 

Kriss E

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Remember when:

- People said that the beginning of the season was all Ducharme
- Prospects will flourish under Ducharme compare to Julien
- The team will start being more offensive under Ducharme
- Ducharme was bringing a breath of fresh air
- Ducharme, knowing Drouin, will be able to use him accordingly

Good times!!!!

When it's the "ti-gars de chez nous", they all suddenly have skills and accomplished way more than they actually did.
It's a curse here in Montreal.

We put a familiar name in place, because of a lack of option, we invent them a great story and don't even realize these guys have done nothing.

Example:
Bouchard is great at developping players.....yet, he didn't develop a whole lot of players. One? Evans? A fourth liner.
Yet, that's how more than half the fan bases sees him. He might be a good one (like what I see from Ylonen, but until we have actual results, positive or negative, no one actually know.

Spoilers: Next french coach with a name will be great before even coaching a game with the Habs. Same for the GM.

I stand by what I've been saying that Julien should not have been fired.
Not at that point in the season. Not to be replace by a rookie coach who never did anything at the pro level. It might not have made any difference, but this move changed nothing either. Julien's firing should have happen this summer.

To be fair, it takes a bit of time to develop kids and right now Laval has been playing very well sitting at the top of the AHL.
Poehling is pretty much scoring at a 1.0 ppg clip, Leskinen, Brook, Ylonen, Vejdemo, they're playing well. Everyone is a + player too, save for Ouellet. Will be interesting to see how those guys do in the POs and next year.
 

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Brind'Amour or Tocchet would be a nice addition to our club.

 
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