Dominique Ducharme. Interim head coach of the Habs thread

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I'm pretty optimistic! Change was needed if only to truly usher this newish era of the Habs and he's a fresh face with a lot of potential as a coach

The fact he was tasked to analyze other teams means he already knows them and probably has plenty of ideas on how to play against the Canadian teams. He's also been in the org for some time so he knows the players and their personalities, it's going to be a faster adaptation for him on that aspect

I like seeing new coaches and not recycling the same guys over and over, so I may be biased

I also think this team is not quite as bad as some other HFBoarders say. It's not a contender but it's not like this division is filled with those either
 

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He wasn't mad at you, it's just that we don't need another one of these pet project relationships between a player and a coach and you insinuated that it was because of language.
Insinuating this idea and posting short posts just saying Drou Drou will be Ducharme's chou chou is inappropriate. It might be legal, borderline bully intimidation tactics, however, it drowns the quality of this board. I expect better, even in the humour angle of a post.
 

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To me the transformation of a team that scored 6-7 shorthanded goals and you saw Petry look like a Norris candidate to a team with a completely different identity almost overnight is very strange.

How does a team change over night?

How does Suzuki go from being an exciting future star player to a player that looks slow and out of shape?

In all my years watching the Habs this is one of the most perplexing moments I have witnessed.
 

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To me the transformation of a team that scored 6-7 shorthanded goals and you saw Petry look like a Norris candidate to a team with a completely different identity almost overnight is very strange.

How does a team change over night?

How does Suzuki go from being an exciting future star player to a player that looks slow and out of shape?

In all my years watching the Habs this is one of the most perplexing moments I have witnessed.
That's why so many of us said that we felt that the team had quit on its coach. We shall see if we were right or wrong.
 

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To me the transformation of a team that scored 6-7 shorthanded goals and you saw Petry look like a Norris candidate to a team with a completely different identity almost overnight is very strange.

How does a team change over night?

How does Suzuki go from being an exciting future star player to a player that looks slow and out of shape?

In all my years watching the Habs this is one of the most perplexing moments I have witnessed.

These things happen when relational dynamics turn to disarray.
 
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Best of luck in the new role. :yo:

May you use your brain more then our last two turkeys and not play favorites!
Vets:
Play well= more Ice time
Shit the bed= 4th line or AHL.

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Longer leash to make mistakes. We aren't winning the cup this year so let em play and learn
Don't throw them under the bus at pressers

NO MORE FAVORISM PLZ!!! :whaaa?:
 

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Here's a piece that was originally posted by @WeThreeKings and subsequently reprised by @dinodebino and which provides a lot of great insights about Ducharme: An analysis of Dominique Ducharme’s coaching style
Another way to assess DD's coaching, I suggest people check out the games played by the 2018 Team Canada junior team. That team was not a favourite to win anything and he had them play wonderful hockey. Dom is a very good coach and he hasn't come down the mountain with a coaching technique dictated to him by god and chiseled on tablets.
 
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That's why so many of us said that we felt that the team had quit on its coach. We shall see if we were right or wrong.
And that didn't happen. Quitting on a coach is easily seen when the players just starting dog f***ing around and not giving a shit. That didn't happen. The effort was there but it was misdirected. The game plan changed, the offensive schemes changed and that's what seems to have had the players upset.

As with nearly every coaching change in recent NHL history, we should see a boost from the players. Hopefully the scheme goes back to what made us successful earlier in the yer.
 
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To me the transformation of a team that scored 6-7 shorthanded goals and you saw Petry look like a Norris candidate to a team with a completely different identity almost overnight is very strange.

How does a team change over night?

How does Suzuki go from being an exciting future star player to a player that looks slow and out of shape?

In all my years watching the Habs this is one of the most perplexing moments I have witnessed.
It was interesting that after the Ottawa game Weber talked about an oppressive negative "heaviness" that was surrounding the team. I'm guessing Julien was stifling the atmosphere around the team? Weber did then walk back some of those comments but they were a window somewhat in what was going on.
 

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And that didn't happen. Quitting on a coach is easily seen when the players just starting dog f***ing around and not giving a shit. That didn't happen. The effort was there but it was misdirected. The game plan changed, the offensive schemes changed and that's what seems to have had the players upset.

As with nearly every coaching change in recent NHL history, we should see a boost from the players. Hopefully the scheme goes back to what made us successful earlier in the yer.
I mean no disrespect here, but didn't you just say what many of us are already saying? Who changed the gameplan? These guys are pro's, how many gameplan changes have they seen in their 20+ years of playing organized hockey? If they support the coach they change when he says change, maybe reluctantly but they do it out of professional respect.
 
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I mean no disrespect here, but didn't you just say what many of us are already saying? Who changed the gameplan?
I'm not sure what you and others were saying. Is it in this thread, I could go back and read.

Claude must have changed the scheme from the original. We went from short quick passes with our forwards deep in our zone back to the rip the puck off the wall and just get it out type game like we saw for most of last year. I didn't realize Ducharme had input in the power play and overall game plan going into the season. There's a good article in the Athletic from Basu about duties of the coaching staff.
 
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I'm not sure what you and others were saying. Is it in this thread, I could go back and read.

Claude must have changed the scheme from the original. We went from short quick passes with our forwards deep in our zone back to the rip the puck off the wall and just get it out type game like we saw for most of last year. I didn't realize Ducharme had input in the power play and overall game plan going into the season. There's a good article in the Athletic from Basu about duties of the coaching staff.
I edited my post and you have already quoted me. These players are used to changing game plans, they are pro's that have been in hockey for a very long time, a simple change in strategy should't derail them in the manner we have seen in the last week.
 

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I edited my post and you have already quoted me. These players are used to changing game plans, they are pro's that have been in hockey for a very long time, a simple change in strategy should't derail them in the manner we have seen in the last week.
Changing game plans isn't a big deal unless of course it reverts back to the old ways that didn't have success. That's where I think the frustration from the players grew from. Effort has never been an issue however it seems the effort was misdirected/misused in regards to the strengths of our team.

Whatever though, that's water under the bridge now, it's all good. A new era with Dutch is upon us, let's get behind him until he makes us not support him :)
 

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Changing game plans isn't a big deal unless of course it reverts back to the old ways that didn't have success. That's where I think the frustration from the players grew from. Effort has never been an issue however it seems the effort was misdirected/misused in regards to the strengths of our team.

Whatever though, that's water under the bridge now, it's all good. A new era with Dutch is upon us, let's get behind him until he makes us not support him :)
That's why I felt that the players quit, they were simply dumping pucks into the corner and chasing them, most shots still were coming from the point at even strength and on the pp. They were not playing in the same manner early on. I still think that they quit on Claude. I am willing to be wrong, no big deal, and of no consequence to me.
 

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One day, molson will see you can only change the coaches and roster so much till you realize your GM is a w fool. But doing so would be admitting you have been a total fool the last 10 years.
 

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Changing game plans isn't a big deal unless of course it reverts back to the old ways that didn't have success. That's where I think the frustration from the players grew from. Effort has never been an issue however it seems the effort was misdirected/misused in regards to the strengths of our team.

Whatever though, that's water under the bridge now, it's all good. A new era with Dutch is upon us, let's get behind him until he makes us not support him :)

Dutch? What a cringe nickname.
 
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That's why I felt that the players quit, they were simply dumping pucks into the corner and chasing them, most shots still were coming from the point at even strength and on the pp. They were not playing in the same manner early on. I still think that they quit on Claude. I am willing to be wrong, no big deal, and of no consequence to me.
I as well.

All that matters is the fellas turn it around and get some W's
 

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In the last game Habs D took almost half the shots!! That was Juliens style. Have the forward curl and drop it back to the D.

Ducharme's philosophy is to create 2 on 1's wherever the offensive player has the puck. The games will reveal his style, but it will be different.
 
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In the last game Habs D took almost half the shots!! That was Juliens style. Have the forward curl and drop it back to the D.

Ducharme's philosophy is to create 2 on 1's wherever the offensive player has the puck. The games will reveal his style, but it will be different.
Only to have the dman to either get his shot blocked or miss the net. Rinse/repeat.

Ducharme didn't reveal a whole lot, but he did talk about players focusing more on puck support and having options.

I think that, as a concept, sounds great because I find that the Habs forwards tended to work in silos when out on the ice.
 

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In the last game Habs D took almost half the shots!! That was Juliens style. Have the forward curl and drop it back to the D.

Ducharme's philosophy is to create 2 on 1's wherever the offensive player has the puck. The games will reveal his style, but it will be different.
Most of the shots from the point get blocked, most of the goals come from the slot in today's NHL, he was keeping things as structured as possible. "Low risk" is what he wanted, playing to preserve the tie. Romanov looked completely lost in comparison to the kid that came out on fire, Suzuki as well, just out there playing robot hockey, nothing fun about that at all.
 

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Most of the shots from the point get blocked, most of the goals come from the slot in today's NHL, he was keeping things as structured as possible. "Low risk" is what he wanted, playing to preserve the tie. Romanov looked completely lost in comparison to the kid that came out on fire, Suzuki as well, just out there playing robot hockey, nothing fun about that at all.
Good post...I've often compared CJs coaching style to a football coach playing prevent defense all game.
 
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