Player Discussion Dominik Kubalik

[Philadelphia Collins]

if Kubalik is better than DeBrincat we are in trouble next july when his contract ends and we have to pay him

 

[norrisnick]

Didn’t he just score 20 while playing with Larkin and getting prime PP time? He’s not scoring the same amount on a 3rd line. Formenton is a much better fit as a 3rd liner.

No. He played with some combination of Copp/Suter/Veleno as his center more than he played with Larkin. He got less than 15 minutes a game in primarily a 3rd line role apart from a hot couple months with Larkin and then he got yanked off the top line never to return. If he got steady top line icetime all year, he's 30+30 easy.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

At this point, as long as he fits in the 2nd line and doesn't drag them down, it will be ok for the season. Not great, but ok.

We really have to hope the cap skyrockets next summer. (And that Andy is willing to spend to the cap.)

 

[bert]

I'm not convinced of consistent production from him. He potted 20 last year, but 9 of those came by November 19th. He potted 11 from that point onwards.

If he did that for the sens last year they probably make the playoffs. He's been consistent in his NHL career. 2.5 million for 20 goals and 40 + points isn't bad. Should slot in on the 2nd line with Batherson and Norris. Decent motor and skater. He's not small either.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Chris Tierny 2.0

A richer man’s Tierney is exactly what I’m expecting.

 

[NyQuil]

A richer man’s Tierney is exactly what I’m expecting.

You can't multiply zero and end up with anything more than zero.

 

[bicboi64]

Put him next to Stu, that'll get him another 30g season

 

[Sun God Nika]

If he is on your third line your deep if he is on your second line it’s sad

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Stutzle is definitely a talent that can carry guys, so he might get Kubalik to 30 goals who knows and he will have Giroux to help him.

They should put back Brady-Norris-Batherson together as that was our most impressive dominant healthy line.

 

[DrEasy]

Stutzle is definitely a talent that can carry guys, so he might get Kubalik to 30 goals who knows and he will have Giroux to help him.

They should put back Brady-Norris-Batherson together as that was our most impressive dominant healthy line.

I agree. Seems Kubalik has some size, which would in theory complement Giroux on a line with Stu, but I'm not sure how much he uses said size.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

If he is on your third line your deep if he is on your second line it’s sad

I think Vegas showed us it’s sometimes good to spread talent throughout the line-up, but yeah we really do need another middle-six winger.

 

[lomekian]

It you guys get Tarasenko as well, Kubalik will do well for you. Detroit's injuries meant he was up and down the line-up and his lack of consistency furthered that movement.

Lovely sense for finding soft areas. Good shot, both 1-timer and wrist. Started last season on fire, but after November (oft playing with lesser line mates) he had long cold streaks. Complimentary scorer who will never drive a line or take over a game, but if with linemates who can create space and pass, he can be a weapon. If you don't get Tarasenko, wouldn't be surprised to see him pot 30 for you guys on your second line. If on 3rd line,15-20 is more realistic.

Young enough to maintain his level for a while, and one of those guys who seriously elevates his effectiveness when playing with better linemates. If paired with 2 absolutely top draw guys, could produce very well at a cheap price. If with Stu & Giroux could pop off, but will always run hot or cold.

If he's willing to renew with you, could be a very positive addition.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

It you guys get Tarasenko as well, Kubalik will do well for you. Detroit's injuries meant he was up and down the line-up and his lack of consistency furthered that movement.

Lovely sense for finding soft areas. Good shot, both 1-timer and wrist. Started last season on fire, but after November (oft playing with lesser line mates) he had long cold streaks. Complimentary scorer who will never drive a line or take over a game, but if with linemates who can create space and pass, he can be a weapon. If you don't get Tarasenko, wouldn't be surprised to see him pot 30 for you guys on your second line. If on 3rd line,15-20 is more realistic.

Young enough to maintain his level for a while, and one of those guys who seriously elevates his effectiveness when playing with better linemates. If paired with 2 absolutely top draw guys, could produce very well at a cheap price. If with Stu & Giroux could pop off, but will always run hot or cold.

If he's willing to renew with you, could be a very positive addition.

I legit hope both sens and red wings do well. That way my friend and I can also have a good rivalry (she's a rødt vinger fan).

 

[ThaShow]

I hope we land Tarasenko or Tatar so we can have a solid 3rd line with Kubalik Pinto Greig

 

[KevinRedkey]

I like Kubalik as a middle-6 option, but not as a fixture at 2LW.

Unless Murray gets bought out, or we make a cap clearing move, we can't afford Tarasenko which is disappointing.

I'd have rather not taken Kubalik back, and simply signed Tarasenko.

 

[Micklebot]

So... top 9 options that include some known commodity lines:

Tkachuk-Stutzle-Giroux
Kubalik-Norris-Batherson
Greig-Pinto-Joseph

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Kubalik-Stutzle-Giroux
Greig-Pinto-Joseph

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Greig-Stutzle-Giroux
Kubalik-Pinto-Joseph

Tkachuk-Norris-Joseph
Greig-Stutzle-Giroux
Kubalik-Pinto-Batherson

 

[JD1]

As I posted earlier, he's averaged 24 goals per 82 over 4 years which is T73 in that span. He's also been credited with more than a hit per game over that span so there's some physicality to his game as well.

He's definitely able to produce at a top 6 rate and in reality if he can pot 25 from the 2nd line, that's a luxury

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Nothing wrong with Kubalik in the top 6. You don't need six stars in the top 6. What we need is better depth. We'll see who we add from here.

Thats kind of where I'm at. Taranseko would be nice for sure, but if the sens end up with two 35 to 45 point wingers for their middle 6 in place of debrincat I think that they'll be better off.

Assuming Norris stays healthy.

 

[Silencio]

I’m getting Milan Michalek vibes from Kubalik (and not just because he’s Czech)

 

[Good in Osgoode]

Found this video highlight package of Kubalik's 30-goal rookie season with the Hawks:



Watching these highlights; opportunistic is the word that came to mind for me.
As someone mentioned, he has averaged 24 goals over 82 games.

I don't think that his guy will be out of place at all on the second line.
I think that he would be good on a line with Stutzle & Giroux and then bring back the
Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson line. If you can add Tatar/Formenton for the third line, that makes 3 very solid lines and a capable 4th line with Kastelic and 2 of MacEwen/Smejkal/Sokolov/Kelly

 

[aragorn]

Trade Joseph & Brannstrom for Laughton LW.

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Batherson
Laughton - Norris - Giroux
Kubalik - Pinto - Sokolov

 

[milkbag]

Trade Joseph & Brannstrom for Laughton LW.

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Batherson
Laughton - Norris - Giroux
Kubalik - Pinto - Sokolov

Why would you put Laughton over Kubalik? Kubalik is the better player

 

[DueDiligence]

If he did that for the sens last year they probably make the playoffs. He's been consistent in his NHL career. 2.5 million for 20 goals and 40 + points isn't bad. Should slot in on the 2nd line with Batherson and Norris. Decent motor and skater. He's not small either.

What I find funny is the number of posters that want to call Kubalik poor, mediocre, a journeyman etc. The guy will probably score 20 goals with the Senators making $2.5 million a year. DBC scored 27 last year with a $6.4 million cap hit. I'll take 20 goals at that lower price all the time.

 

[BrawlFan]

As with the Hamonic trade let’s see what the team looks like. Kubalik shouldn’t be the worst guy to re-sign and he is always top 3-4 scoring on whatever team he’s on. Meaning he’s generating the offence. He won’t have to do that here.

Think about how starved his teams were for offence. He has consistently been the top 3-4 scorer on every team he’s been on. He should easily be 6-7 on this team if not lower. I like it. I hope we re-sign him. Could be a good bargain deal.

Dorion

 

[aragorn]

Why would you put Laughton over Kubalik? Kubalik is the better player

Because Laughton has experience with Giroux, but it makes no difference, I'm quite sure they will move them around to get the best fit throughout the season.