Does Tampa have the best Pro Scouting Department?

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The approach of paying a first round draft pick and a bit for a solid middle sixer with term instead of paying a first for a player like Foligno helped them take two cracks at a run by landing players such as Coleman, Goodrow, and Hagel.

They made the right decision by letting the two walk and keeping Hagel. And I know he’s an elite player but Guentzel was a great add and fit in well.

Does Tampa have the best pro scouting resume in the last decade?
 

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The approach of paying a first round draft pick and a bit for a solid middle sixer with term instead of paying a first for a player like Foligno helped them take two cracks at a run by landing players such as Coleman, Goodrow, and Hagel.

They made the right decision by letting the two walk and keeping Hagel. And I know he’s an elite player but Guentzel was a great add and fit in well.

Does Tampa have the best pro scouting resume in the last decade?
I give the edge to Florida. Mainly cause they took distressed nhl guys and they became good contributors to their roster. Be it forsling, Montour, Duclair, etc.
 
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The approach of paying a first round draft pick and a bit for a solid middle sixer with term instead of paying a first for a player like Foligno helped them take two cracks at a run by landing players such as Coleman, Goodrow, and Hagel.

They made the right decision by letting the two walk and keeping Hagel. And I know he’s an elite player but Guentzel was a great add and fit in well.

Does Tampa have the best pro scouting resume in the last decade?
Why did you leave out Tanner Jeannot? Didn't fit your narrative, perchance? Shouldn't we evaluate all their moves, not just the ones supporting your stance?
 
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The approach of paying a first round draft pick and a bit for a solid middle sixer with term instead of paying a first for a player like Foligno helped them take two cracks at a run by landing players such as Coleman, Goodrow, and Hagel.

They made the right decision by letting the two walk and keeping Hagel. And I know he’s an elite player but Guentzel was a great add and fit in well.

Does Tampa have the best pro scouting resume in the last decade?
Coleman was the other guy they got for their Cup wins, Hagel was later but has fit in well.

Some have mentioned Jeannot, that trade was “horribad,” but they got what they could for him instead of still trying to fit the square peg. Duke and Dumba weren’t great deadline acquisitions either, but every team has those bumps. Look at Zito at his first deadline with Chabot, etc. They both seem to learn and move on.

Colorado has found solid players as well. Vegas tends to be like the kid brother in the Christmas Story when he ran down Christmas morning and pointed at every gift “oooh THAT’S MINE!!” with every FA and potential available player…but, Barbashev was a great addition at the deadline. Playing well now and wrecked Gudas in the Finals. He was a wrecking ball period.
 

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What made Coleman and Goodrow special is they were good fits on a special core that completed the championship puzzle, but it’s not like they were that special as actual players. Add them to any other team it’s not like you have 2 cups to show for it.

Having guys like JT Miller, Verhaeghe before they popped might be better examples of great pro scouting. They might be better examples similar to Hagel.

Strength of the Lightning came from amateur scouting. But they’ve also had brain drain with Yzerman, Verbeek moving on over the years and not sure how intact that scouting staff is. Al Murray was replaced as head scout a couple of years ago.

Like everything else with Tampa right now, I file their scouting under the heading: declining power.
 
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They’re up there. Canes have been really great too

Canes lost two Top 4 defensemen and two Top 6 forwards this offseason and everyone (justifiably) predicted them to take a major step back. Especially when they didn’t seem to replace any of the above. But the scouts identified players that would work in the system and Carolina, at least thus far, hasn’t seemed to have lost a step.

Now if only those scouts could find a healthy goalie…
 

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With the way the league works right now, I completely agree. I think this is a huge reason why the Canes, Lightning, and now Panthers have been very good in the last stretch of years.

I’d argue the Canes are primarily a homegrown team with a core of Aho, Necas, Slavin, Jarvis, Svechnikov, until this year Pesce, Kochetkov. They find good pieces but if they didn’t have their homegrown foundation it wouldn’t work.
 
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I’d argue the Canes are primarily a homegrown team with a core of Aho, Necas, Slavin, Jarvis, Svechnikov, until this year Pesce, Kochetkov. They find good pieces but if they didn’t have their homegrown foundation it wouldn’t work.

No argument there, but they consistently seem to do a good job of finding really nice pieces at the right price.
 

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