Does Mitch seem different since coming back from the 4 Nations?

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Given Mitch said he had a feeling something might happen.... Im of the opinion, the Leafs have reached out to Marner in the past about a trade list or have asked them about willingness to talk to other teams during the season. Maybe even gave teams permission to try their best with Ferris.

Colorado did the same with Rantanen..however, Rantanen didn't have a nmc, so despite Rantanen politely telling Carolina, no, i'd like to work something out with Colorado, Carolina went ahead anyways.
 
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Still pretty much running away with it as the team scoring leader.

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Yep... Marner switching between Matthews and Tavares with Knies, while Nylander switched between Tavares and Domi and Holmberg... is a very fair comparison lol.

Remember that Tulsky indicated that research shows that the biggest effect on a players play is who his linemates are.
 
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I don't understand all the pandering to this guy.

It's pathetic and nauseating. For anyone expecting my kids to admire him it's not gonna happen. My oldest son doesn't even like hockey so he could care less.

My youngest one can't stand Marner.

The guerilla negotiation tactics used by his camp haven't gone unnoticed. Even the casual observer knows something about the story. Joe Weekender tunes in for his Saturday evening special and gets to hear all about how much Mitch wants to play for the Leafs the rest of his career.

All they have to do is pay him a QUARTER BILLION dollars.

Let that number sink in for a minute. By the time this greedy unaccountable prick finishes playing he'll have more money than all of us combined will ever sniff. Yet for some reason there are actually people cheering him on to squeeze the team for every last cent he can get even if it's to the detrement of the roster.

It's like the player is more important than the team.
 
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Yep... Marner switching between Matthews and Tavares with Knies, while Nylander switched between Tavares and Domi and Holmberg... is a very fair comparison lol.

Remember that Tulsky indicated that research shows that the biggest effect on a players play is who his linemates are.
Remember the two games marner did nothing with domi and Holmberg before they broke up the second line with patches when it was cliccin the first time to get marner going…….seems like everyone’s forgot about it
 
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Remember the two games marner did nothing with domi and Holmberg before they broke up the second line with patches when it was cliccin the first time to get marner going…….seems like everyone’s forgot about it
I remember that, pissed me off. Knew at that point, they couldn’t harm Marners fragile ego.
 
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Remember the two games marner did nothing with domi and Holmberg before they broke up the second line with patches when it was cliccin the first time to get marner going…….seems like everyone’s forgot about it
Remember last playoffs when Marner had 1g and 3 even strength points in 7 games playing with Tavares, Domi, Bertuzzi and Knies? Also only had 8 even strength shots in 7 games.

Here is a doozy stat. Matthews had 24 hits in 5 games. Marner had 5 hits in 7 games. This is part of the reason I dont get on board the Matthews has been as bad as Marner train. Matthews in the playoffs is in the thick of the physical battles, while Marner is literally pulling the chute and unwilling to take a hit to make a play.

Matthews, despite being ill, also had better stats than Marner.

Need to look into Marners stats more the one year he isnt on a line with Matthews.
 
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Remember last playoffs when Marner had 1g and 3 even strength points in 7 games playing with Tavares, Domi, Bertuzzi and Knies? Also only had 8 even strength shots in 7 games.

Here is a doozy stat. Matthews had 24 hits in 5 games. Marner had 5 hits in 7 games. This is part of the reason I dont get on board the Matthews has been as bad as Marner train. Matthews in the playoffs is in the thick of the physical battles, while Marner is literally pulling the chute and unwilling to take a hit to make a play.

Matthews, despite being ill, also had better stats than Marner.

Need to look into Marners stats more the one year he isnt on a line with Matthews.
Even odder, Nylander had 5 hits (and 5 blocked shots) in his four games.
 
Remember last playoffs when Marner had 1g and 3 even strength points in 7 games playing with Tavares, Domi, Bertuzzi and Knies? Also only had 8 even strength shots in 7 games.

Here is a doozy stat. Matthews had 24 hits in 5 games. Marner had 5 hits in 7 games. This is part of the reason I dont get on board the Matthews has been as bad as Marner train. Matthews in the playoffs is in the thick of the physical battles, while Marner is literally pulling the chute and unwilling to take a hit to make a play.

Matthews, despite being ill, also had better stats than Marner.

Need to look into Marners stats more the one year he isnt on a line with Matthews.

In playoff hockey teams leave Marner time and space because of Matthews shot. There is no mystery. AM is double teamed because teams know Marner can be made by charging at him.
 
In playoff hockey teams leave Marner time and space because of Matthews shot. There is no mystery. AM is double teamed because teams know Marner can be made by charging at him.
Marners admitted this too in media scrums, Coaching staff have told him and his linemate to attack the extra space that teams give them as a result of over defending Matthews.
 
Even odder, Nylander had 5 hits (and 5 blocked shots) in his four games.
Marner was credited with just 1 block and yet he played 7 games and plays PK.

I mentioned during the playoff games though...Marner doesnt try to block shots, he makes himself as small as possible. I also noticed that he covers his face with his glove out of fear of being hit by a shot. Which on this play, ended up not being a shot and just a pass lol.

This is Marners style... he doesn't go into corners, he allows opponents to get the puck and then tries to poke it away.

He doesn't block shots, he tries to intercept passes.

He doesn't take a hit to make a play, he just throws the puck away randomly to avoid being hit. I saw him do this again just last game.

He doesn't screen the goalie, he skates slowly through the crease. He doesn't want to set up, because he knows he will get roughed up.

I also don't think his style blends well with linemates. For instance his PKing often gets the team in trouble because he chooses to go rogue and attempts a double team on a puck carrier or tries to block a suspected pass - puts himself out of position and then the team scrambles out of position. This also happened vs Boston in the playoffs and led to a PP Goal against. Something similar happened a few games ago vs Washington where he drifted down and completely left his Dman and then was doing the funky chicken trying to pretend to block a shot and simultaneously get out of the way of it too.

His ozone style of being obsessed with being on the blueline... lost count of how many times Knies or Matthews have had the puck down low and have nobody to pass to because Marner is standing 3 men across on the blueline.

There is alot we don't see behind closed doors, and I wonder how annoyed Berube is with Marners refusal to play in the dirty areas. Marner had moments early in the season where he made an honest effort and it was great, but he took a few big hits, hits an offensive short lived streak offensively and then resorted back to being old Marner.

Remember how he actually pushed back a few times? This was because he actually emotionally and physically involved himself in the game... playing real hockey and not shinny got him pissed off!

Hes been moderately better this year, but it's also a contract year. Tavares has been light years better in a contract year. So just wait until he gets his next contract.
 
Marner was credited with just 1 block and yet he played 7 games and plays PK.

I mentioned during the playoff games though...Marner doesnt try to block shots, he makes himself as small as possible. I also noticed that he covers his face with his glove out of fear of being hit by a shot. Which on this play, ended up not being a shot and just a pass lol.

This is Marners style... he doesn't go into corners, he allows opponents to get the puck and then tries to poke it away.

He doesn't block shots, he tries to intercept passes.

He doesn't take a hit to make a play, he just throws the puck away randomly to avoid being hit. I saw him do this again just last game.

He doesn't screen the goalie, he skates slowly through the crease. He doesn't want to set up, because he knows he will get roughed up.

I also don't think his style blends well with linemates. For instance his PKing often gets the team in trouble because he chooses to go rogue and attempts a double team on a puck carrier or tries to block a suspected pass - puts himself out of position and then the team scrambles out of position. This also happened vs Boston in the playoffs and led to a PP Goal against. Something similar happened a few games ago vs Washington where he drifted down and completely left his Dman and then was doing the funky chicken trying to pretend to block a shot and simultaneously get out of the way of it too.

His ozone style of being obsessed with being on the blueline... lost count of how many times Knies or Matthews have had the puck down low and have nobody to pass to because Marner is standing 3 men across on the blueline.

There is alot we don't see behind closed doors, and I wonder how annoyed Berube is with Marners refusal to play in the dirty areas. Marner had moments early in the season where he made an honest effort and it was great, but he took a few big hits, hits an offensive short lived streak offensively and then resorted back to being old Marner.

Remember how he actually pushed back a few times? This was because he actually emotionally and physically involved himself in the game... playing real hockey and not shinny got him pissed off!

Hes been moderately better this year, but it's also a contract year. Tavares has been light years better in a contract year. So just wait until he gets his next contract.
I'm not as critical of him as you are, but I do think some of the comparisons between him and Willy are off.
 

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