Does Marner get Boo’d?

[francis246]

They are, that's why the Marner fan club keeps talking about his point total to justify his dog shit play and attitude in the playoffs.

I believe the OP that brought up Tkachuks point was just pointing out, that even by that dumb points only metric and ignoring everything else that happens in a game, Tkachuk has been the superior performer. Because the person he responded to was talking about being unable to quantify it, when referring to Tkachuk.

So even by your own metrics and the rest of the hockey world that "knows how to watch" Tkachuk has been significantly better and more impactful. By your stat metrics, the point totals prove it + his cup win vs Marners stats + playoff history. And by the eye test, which most people use, Tkachuk blows him out of the water.

Meh Tkachuk had an outstanding first round against Tampa and was pretty unnoticeable there after. I’d say Reinhart, Forsling, Barkov, Verhaghe, Bobrovsky, Bennett were all more crucial in Florida’s win. Whether it was shutting opponents down or scoring clutch goals.

Tkachuk didn’t really do much, and he wasn’t really scoring goals either much after round 1. He had 3 goals in his last 19 playoff games this year. He got carried by his linemates and he wasn’t even overly physical this year too. I wouldn’t really use Tkachuk as the best comparable but hey what do I know

 

[Hellcat]

Is this another attempt to excuse his lack of scoring? Especially in the playoffs? are fans moving the goal posts for Mitch?


I feel you bruh, it was five times puck over the glass (five fracking times) and when he is not doing it, they complain about crying on the bench? Not scoring ?

One can't wait how they'll move the post for top salary in the league on RFA next ! Pesky haters! You tell them Hellcat

LOL, the guy has played 633 games and you are focused on five over the puck PIM's? A career is a sum of it's parts, lets try to not be so myopic that you'll only consider the minor blemishes to support your misguided beliefs.

Probably. Different background and has that will to win. If you have a really solid team and need one guy to get over the hump to win a championship, you probably take Tkachuk over Matthews.

Before two months ago what did Tkachuk win?

And you're the one moving them...

How so?

 

[Hellcat]

They are, that's why the Marner fan club keeps talking about his point total to justify his dog shit play and attitude in the playoffs.

I believe the OP that brought up Tkachuks point was just pointing out, that even by that dumb points only metric and ignoring everything else that happens in a game, Tkachuk has been the superior performer. Because the person he responded to was talking about being unable to quantify it, when referring to Tkachuk.

So even by your own metrics and the rest of the hockey world that "knows how to watch" Tkachuk has been significantly better and more impactful. By your stat metrics, the point totals prove it + his cup win vs Marners stats + playoff history. And by the eye test, which most people use, Tkachuk blows him out of the water.

Say Marner goes on a tear in this years playoffs, does that fix the playoff boogie man? I though the reason why the angry mob has a hate on for Marner is that he does not get points in games 5, 6, 7? The points Marner scores in the regular seasons, dont matter, the points he gets in games 1 through 4 dont matter, but the points in games 5 through 7 do? Selective framing, no? Honest questions, do the points scored in the regular season help you win a playoff spot? Can you win a series if you dont win a game between games 1 to 4? Do points scored in games 1 through 4 help you win a series?

 

[Hellcat]

Interesting to see that Mitch ranks 10th all time in career assist per game. Third with active players, only behind McDavid and Crosby.

NHL & WHA Career Leaders and Records for Assists Per Game | Hockey-Reference.com

1. Wayne Gretzky (1.320), 2. Mario Lemieux (1.129), 3. Connor McDavid (1.003), 4. Bobby Orr (0.982), 5. Peter Forsberg (0.898), 6. Peter Šťastný (0.808), 7. Adam Oates (0.807), 8. Paul Coffey (0.806), 9. Sidney Crosby (0.789), 10. Mitch Marner (0.773)

www.hockey-reference.com

 

[Arzak]

Interesting to see that Mitch ranks 10th all time in career assist per game. Third with active players, only behind McDavid and Crosby.

NHL & WHA Career Leaders and Records for Assists Per Game | Hockey-Reference.com

1. Wayne Gretzky (1.320), 2. Mario Lemieux (1.129), 3. Connor McDavid (1.003), 4. Bobby Orr (0.982), 5. Peter Forsberg (0.898), 6. Peter Šťastný (0.808), 7. Adam Oates (0.807), 8. Paul Coffey (0.806), 9. Sidney Crosby (0.789), 10. Mitch Marner (0.773)

www.hockey-reference.com

Can you find least shocking information? Mitch collects assist playing with the best goal scorer in the league.

You must think his secondary assists after Matthews scores out of thin air are something.


Joke joke and joke. Mitch comedy routine!


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You don't find it strange it coincides with Matthews leading the league in scoring during the same period? You have to drink Mitch Cool Aid all day to miss it

 

[57 Years No Cup]

How so?

Marner = McDavid....

LOLOLOLOLOL!

 

[Nineteen67]

LOL, the guy has played 633 games and you are focused on five over the puck PIM's? A career is a sum of it's parts, lets try to not be so myopic that you'll only consider the minor blemishes to support your misguided beliefs.



Before two months ago what did Tkachuk win?



How so?

An eastern conference championship and a Memorial Cup

 

[Racer88]

Can you find least shocking information? Mitch collects assist playing with the best goal scorer in the league.

You must think his secondary assists after Matthews scores out of thin air are something.


Joke joke and joke. Mitch comedy routine!


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You don't find it strange it coincides with Matthews leading the league in scoring during the same period? You have drink Mitch cool aid all day to miss it

Ya go figure

 

[ULF_55]

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1000+ point player

I suspect he is going to get cheered.

Silent majority wakes up.

 

[Madap]

Even though Marner individually deserves the largest piece of blame, he’s still far less than half on the team. If there’s going to be booing, it has to be for the whole team, not just Marner.

 

[mapleleaf979]

Even though Marner individually deserves the largest piece of blame, he’s still far less than half on the team. If there’s going to be booing, it has to be for the whole team, not just Marner.

Marner does not deserve the biggest part of the blame. That is media driven narrative and u are drinking the kool aid. Dubas deserves the blame, he built the team and Treliving is trying to repair it. The defensive core was the main issue the team lost, paired with lack of scoring. Matthews deserves the blame if anyone, he makes alot of money but plays scared, soft in the playoffs yet he is 6-3 225lbs.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Interesting to see that Mitch ranks 10th all time in career assist per game. Third with active players, only behind McDavid and Crosby.

NHL & WHA Career Leaders and Records for Assists Per Game | Hockey-Reference.com

1. Wayne Gretzky (1.320), 2. Mario Lemieux (1.129), 3. Connor McDavid (1.003), 4. Bobby Orr (0.982), 5. Peter Forsberg (0.898), 6. Peter Šťastný (0.808), 7. Adam Oates (0.807), 8. Paul Coffey (0.806), 9. Sidney Crosby (0.789), 10. Mitch Marner (0.773)

www.hockey-reference.com

Considering that he's played almost his entire career with the guy who is third on the all-time list of goals per game (minimum 500 games), tenth is a pretty poor showing.

Additionally, you're looking at career for most of those players vs prime years for Marner.

For example, at the end of the season where Gretzky turned 27, his assists per game was 1.56. After his declining years, it was 1.32.

 

[mikeyz]

Matthews has never had a season above 107 points, is Tkachuk better than Matty?

Completely different comparison

 

[mikeyz]

Say Marner goes on a tear in this years playoffs, does that fix the playoff boogie man? I though the reason why the angry mob has a hate on for Marner is that he does not get points in games 5, 6, 7? The points Marner scores in the regular seasons, dont matter, the points he gets in games 1 through 4 dont matter, but the points in games 5 through 7 do? Selective framing, no? Honest questions, do the points scored in the regular season help you win a playoff spot? Can you win a series if you dont win a game between games 1 to 4? Do points scored in games 1 through 4 help you win a series?

Lol. Dude, there’s a more likely possibility that I will wake up 1 morning laying next to Adriana Lima then Marner ever going on a tear in the playoffs.

 

[Racer88]

Lol. Dude, there’s a more likely possibility that I will wake up 1 morning laying next to Adriana Lima then Marner ever going on a tear in the playoffs.

Say hi to Adriana for me

 

[Hellcat]

Lol. Dude, there’s a more likely possibility that I will wake up 1 morning laying next to Adriana Lima then Marner ever going on a tear in the playoffs.

Why is it the haters have such a hard time answering simple questions?

Completely different comparison

Why? Anyone hear that? It's the goal posts moving again,,,

 

[Arzak]

Why? Anyone hear that? It's the goal posts moving again,,,

No one moving sh*t, Mitch can't score with static goal posts. Can't stop crying. Avoids contact to the point he prefers team on PK rather than eating hit to make a play.

WTF is this pathetic attempt at claiming someone is moving posts? He is low IQ good boy that cries a lot and can't play playoff hockey.


He is the same useless Mitch comes the playoffs year after year. Fans complain about the same sh*t year after year, but you somehow feel like the goal posts is shifting.


Can you predict a 100-point season again to demonstrate his stagnation? Thanks


Mod Edit: As requested.

 

[Canadian Finn]

wish marner worked as hard as his fanbase.

much better work ethic shown by his fans.

 

[Hellcat]

Considering that he's played almost his entire career with the guy who is third on the all-time list of goals per game (minimum 500 games), tenth is a pretty poor showing.

Additionally, you're looking at career for most of those players vs prime years for Marner.

For example, at the end of the season where Gretzky turned 27, his assists per game was 1.56. After his declining years, it was 1.32.

Dude he is 10th, how anyone can find a negative in that is absurd. To imply that he is not an elite setup man is disingenuous at best.

 

[Hellcat]

No one moving sh*t, Mitch can't score with static goal posts. Can't stop crying. Avoids contact to the point he prefers team on PK rather than eating hit to make a play.

WTF is this pathetic attempt at claiming someone is moving posts? He is low IQ good boy that cries a lot and can't play playoff hockey.


He is the same useless Mitch comes the playoffs year after year. Fans complain about the same sh*t year after year, but you somehow feel like the goal posts is shifting.


Can you predict a 100-point season again to demonstrate his stagnation? Thanks

Mitch in every possible way is an elite, forward. If the argument is he is the only person responsible for the Leafs failures, that is simply stupid. If the argument is that for 3% of his games he does not play at an elite level, bravo he is not Jesus, you've cracked the code.

If you cant see the blatant goalpost moving, that is something that no one can help you with son. I think the problem is you dont understand what moving the goal posts actually mean? Are you being intentionally obtuse?

Low IQ? For you of all people to say that ... WOW... LOL. This type of play is a regular occurrence

 

[Nineteen67]

Mitch in every possible way is an elite, forward. If the argument is he is the only person responsible for the Leafs failures, that is simply stupid. If the argument is that for 3% of his games he does not play at an elite level, bravo he is not Jesus, you've cracked the code.

If you cant see the blatant goalpost moving, that is something that no one can help you with son. I think the problem is you dont understand what moving the goal posts actually mean? Are you being intentionally obtuse?

Low IQ? For you of all people to say that ... WOW... LOL. This type of play is a regular occurrence



Cut down on the booze? WTF are you talking about? You post a rambling incoherent mess of a post and you want me to cut down on the booze?

It’s not baseball where the playoffs don’t matter. The NHL is all about the playoffs and, like you, we all agree his performance recently has been poor.

 

[Nineteen67]

with marner worked as hard as his fanbase.

much better work ethic shown by his fans.

There is a clip of his highlights above that really shows why he’s not as effective in the playoffs. Once defenders buckle down it makes it difficult for him to have success and he’s yet to figure out how to break through. I think he gets frustrated and then looks disinterested.

I predicted the Leafs would win the series against Tampa last year because Marner was the best player on both teams and would be the difference. He wasn’t.

 

[Hellcat]

It’s not baseball where the playoffs don’t matter. The NHL is all about the playoffs and, like you, we all agree his performance recently has been poor.

Playoffs dont matter in baseball? News to hundreds of millions of baseball fans. I agree that his games 5 through 7 have been less than Magic Mitch level, his games 1 through 4 are fine, he's at a PPG over the last 3 playoffs, good but not Magic Mitch good.

 

[Canadian Finn]

Magic Mitch good.

this place is the best.

 

[ACC1224]

Wonder if he hears any 'boo's' playing for Canada during the 4 Nations?