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Does "Future Consideration" have any real meaning?

dumbdick

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Has it ever?

When the league formally documents trade deals, is "future considerations" used in those documents?

Or is it just window dressing as a nice way to say "nothing"?
 
Depending on the location, might be a large Timmy's, a Dunkin, or some such to the GM.

There have been in the way, way back land talk that sometimes FC's would mean a team wouldn't make a waiver claim on someone. I recall being told that by a local hockey writer back in the '90's, but I doubt that is even held to a particular standard other than a gentlemen's agreement between the GM's if at all.
 
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It means that Cash Considerations wasn’t available.

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It used to, if I'm not mistaken Robyn Regher was traded to Calgary as future considerations in the Theo fluery trade.
 
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I've always wondered if when there is a somewhat lopsided trade between 2 teams if there was a previous trade involving future consideration.

Also if that were true I wonder how the player did in the trade with fc did Stat wise and how well he did in the playoffs.
 
Not really .... unless it does.

I've always considered it sort of a gentleman's agreement between two GMs that at some nebulous point in the future, the guy with FC will get a slightly better return on a deal between the two of them.

Of course, that all is dependent on the two GMs still being employed by their respective clubs when the chit is called in (& the receiving GM being honorable enough to recognize/redeem it). Sure the one GM could tell the new GM that "The last guy gave me FC in a trade way back when" ... & the new guy looks at him & asks, "Fine, but what have you done for 'me' recently..."

But as teams can't just give another team a player, there has to be 'some' value attached, minimal as it actually is.
 
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i remember hearing in the past is was used to get a machine or equipment for a locker room.

edit: found it. not in the nhl tho.
Bezeau was involved with one of the IHL's strangest trades at the start of the 1996–97 season. Bezeau was upset with the Komets and demanded a trade, even going as far as attending training camp with the Michigan K-Wings while still officially being a member of the Komets' roster. Bezeau would officially be traded to the K-Wings for "future considerations", which ended up being two equipment dryers that used to be part of the Phoenix Roadrunners organization. Bezeau played one game with the K-Wings before the trade was officially voided by the league. Bezeau would later be traded to the Detroit Vipers.[2]
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weren't those Vegas expansion draft trades where they agreed to pick or not pick players in exchange for something technically future considerations on Vegas's end of things?
 
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dumbdick said:
Has it ever?

When the league formally documents trade deals, is "future considerations" used in those documents?

Or is it just window dressing as a nice way to say "nothing"?
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It's changed in modern times, in the past it could mean almost anything. My understanding now it is generally a conditional 7th where the conditions are basically guaranteed never to be met
 
It works exactly the same way as sandwich stamps at a deli: once you get enough future considerations at the same place, you earn one mediocre freebie.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
It used to, if I'm not mistaken Robyn Regher was traded to Calgary as future considerations in the Theo fluery trade.
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That was the first one that came to mind. As I remember it, Colorado gave a short list of prospects for Calgary to choose from and they got a few more weeks to scout who they wanted (came down to Regehr or Martin Skoula if I recall correctly).

Another funny one was Phoenix trading Brian Savage to St. Louis at the 2004 trade deadline. The 'future considerations' was that Phoenix would take Savage back after the season since St. Louis didn't want Savage's contract. Phoenix got a couple months of salary relief and Savage got a chance on a playoff team.
 
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Does it travel with the GM? Ie on March 10th Brad traded Rubins to the Sens for future considerations, does that mean if the Leafs and Sens make a deal they owe us a tiny bonus?
NVM on March 21/22 the Flames game the Sens McNiven for future considerations.
But man that Monohan trade is all considerations
Flames get future considerations
Habs:
Sean Monahan · $6,375,000
2025 1st round pick (CGY) [Conditional]*

*Conditions: 1. If CGY’s 2024 1st round pick is between 20 and 32, MTL can take that pick instead. Result: TBD

Scenario: In the event CGY receives FLA’s 2025 1st round pick:
1. If both CGY AND FLA’s picks are NOT top 10, MTL will receive the better of the CGY and FLA 2025 1st round picks. Result: TBD

2. If CGY’s pick is top 10, AND FLA’s pick is NOT top 10, MTL receives FLA’s pick. Result: TBD


Scenario: In the event CGY does NOT receive FLA’s 1st round pick:

Sub-scenario: CGY’s pick is NOT top 10
1. MTL will receive the CGY pick, and
2. If FLA’s pick is not top 10, is a better pick than CGY’s, and was transferred to another team due to prior conditions, MTL will also receive CGY’s 2025 4th round pick.
Result: TBD

Sub-scenario: CGY’s pick is top 10:
1. If CGY’s pick is 1st overall, MTL will receive CGY’s 2025 3rd, and the better of CGY and FLA’s 2026 1st round pick. Result: TBD
2. If CGY’s pick is 2nd to 10th, MTL receives CGY’s 2025 1st round pick. Result: TBD
 
It's a nice way of saying "for a bucket of hockey pucks".
 
For a contract to be valid, each party must receive "consideration" - something of value, that they didn't have before. I would assume that "future consideration" satisfies this requirement.
 
ijuka said:
It means "nothing" in practice but goodwill is tough to measure. It could affect trade partner choices or tip the scale between two offers of similar value, for example.
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Could it really though? Aren't the large majority of 'Future Consideration' deals are for minor leaguers for contract limit reasons or borderline NHL players?

I highly doubt an NHL GM would go "Hey remember that time you gave my organization a minor leaguer for 'nothing', I think I will take your deal over the competitors even tho their's might be better"
 
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Clearly an abstraction created just to say some'thing' was traded for, when it's nothing in practice and reality
 
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Future considerations would imply there are also past considerations. Why can't there be reconciliatory trades?
 
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