Does Crosby’s point-per-game streak end this season?

[Bear of Bad News]

Only players with this

1600 points
600 goals
3 Stanley Cups
2 Con Smythes

guess who they are

Tom Selleck, and...Catherine Bach?

 

[LevelingSolo]

Sid and Ovie both being dominant in 2024 is amazing

 

[PaulD]

Not a real tough question...Crosby and Gretzky

the question was meant to sarcastic ..... anything but a tough question.
Just threw it in for the Crosby basher on this thread.

 

[filinski77]

Sid and Ovie both being dominant in 2024 is amazing

Crosby being 24th in points and 95th in goals isn't really 'dominant'...

Great season for a 37 year old though.

 

[SEALBound]

Crosby being 24th in points and 95th in goals isn't really 'dominant'...

Great season for a 37 year old though.

How many 37yo+ players have been PPG?

NHL Most Points In A Season By A Player Older Than 35 | StatMuse

Gordie Howe has collected the most points by a player older than 35 in a season, with 103 points in 1968-69.

www.statmuse.com

I see 4 in recent years. Pretty good company.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

How many 37yo+ players have been PPG?

NHL Most Points In A Season By A Player Older Than 35 | StatMuse

Gordie Howe has collected the most points by a player older than 35 in a season, with 103 points in 1968-69.

www.statmuse.com

I see 4 in recent years. Pretty good company.

13 in history. Still marvel at Sakic hitting 100 at age 37. Age 38 is where it becomes a graveyard, with Oates being the only player above a ppg.

37-Year Old NHL Players - Regular Season Stats

37-year old NHL player stats. NHL player statistics segmented by age group.

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38-Year Old NHL Players - Regular Season Stats

38-year old NHL player stats. NHL player statistics segmented by age group.

www.quanthockey.com

 

[Grifter3511]

Crosby being 24th in points and 95th in goals isn't really 'dominant'...

Great season for a 37 year old though.

Scoring goals like a first liner and getting points like the best player on the team. Pretty rad.

 

[LevelingSolo]

Crosby being 24th in points and 95th in goals isn't really 'dominant'...

Great season for a 37 year old though.

I think he will end up higher by the end of the season

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Crosby being 24th in points and 95th in goals isn't really 'dominant'...

Great season for a 37 year old though.

Crosby is still a beast at even strength

 

[BallardEra]

13 in history. Still marvel at Sakic hitting 100 at age 37. Age 38 is where it becomes a graveyard, with Oates being the only player above a ppg.

37-Year Old NHL Players - Regular Season Stats

37-year old NHL player stats. NHL player statistics segmented by age group.

www.quanthockey.com

38-Year Old NHL Players - Regular Season Stats

38-year old NHL player stats. NHL player statistics segmented by age group.

www.quanthockey.com

Age 39 has 4 players above a PPG:

39-Year Old NHL Players - Regular Season Stats

39-year old NHL player stats. NHL player statistics segmented by age group.

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[Luigi Lemieux]

Age 39 has 4 players above a PPG:

39-Year Old NHL Players - Regular Season Stats

39-year old NHL player stats. NHL player statistics segmented by age group.

www.quanthockey.com

True but none past 1980. Modern game is too fast for 39+ year olds to dominate. Ovechkin was having a special year until he got hurt.

 

[BallardEra]

True but none past 1980. Modern game is too fast for 39+ year olds to dominate. Ovechkin was having a special year until he got hurt.

Good point. I didn't catch the 1980 part.

He certainly had a great start and will be tough to pick up where he left off.

 

[Toby91ca]

the question was meant to sarcastic ..... anything but a tough question.
Just threw it in for the Crosby basher on this thread.

I know, I can't help it.....I like answering questions

 

[Midnight Judges]

Only players with this

1600 points
600 goals
3 Stanley Cups
2 Con Smythes

guess who they are

Crosby earned 1 Conn Smythe. His 65 point / 21 goal pace as a defensive liability is a farce.

There are far better achievements for the Crosby argument to hinge on.

Regardless, your retort is a complete non sequitur.

 

[filinski77]

How many 37yo+ players have been PPG?

I straight up said it was a great season for a 37 year old. But to say he's dominant this season is a complete lie.

Scoring goals like a first liner and getting points like the best player on the team. Pretty rad.

Agreed - but also largely irrelevant to what I said. He isn't 'dominant', but he is having a great season for his age.

I think he will end up higher by the end of the season

Probably on the goalscoring aspect, agreed. But also irrelevant when the discussion is around what HAS happened.

Crosby is still a beast at even strength

Great that his expected stats are great, but his ACTUAL /60 even-strength stats are not 'dominant' (as per my initial assertion), and his ES goalscoring is terrible (offset by great ES playmaking).

40th in ESP/60
260th in ESG/60
(8th in ESA/60 to be fair)

5v5 on ice expected goals against/60 = 3.18 (2nd worst on his team, 28th worst in the league)
5v5 on-ice goal differential = +2 (217th in the league)

Crosby is good offensively at even strength/5v5 this season (definitely not a beast), and he is terrible defensively at 5v5 hockey.

Point being as I said in my comment (which clearly stirred up a lot of Pens fans) -> Crosby is having a great season for his age, and is still good. But he is not 'dominant'.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

I straight up said it was a great season for a 37 year old. But to say he's dominant this season is a complete lie.


Agreed - but also largely irrelevant to what I said. He isn't 'dominant', but he is having a great season for his age.


Probably on the goalscoring aspect, agreed. But also irrelevant when the discussion is around what HAS happened.


Great that his expected stats are great, but his ACTUAL /60 even-strength stats are not 'dominant' (as per my initial assertion), and his ES goalscoring is terrible (offset by great ES playmaking).

40th in ESP/60
260th in ESG/60
(8th in ESA/60 to be fair)

5v5 on ice expected goals against/60 = 3.18 (2nd worst on his team, 28th worst in the league)
5v5 on-ice goal differential = +2 (217th in the league)

Crosby is good offensively at even strength/5v5 this season (definitely not a beast), and he is terrible defensively at 5v5 hockey.

Point being as I said in my comment (which clearly stirred up a lot of Pens fans) -> Crosby is having a great season for his age, and is still good. But he is not 'dominant'.

That's a relative term anyway. You could say anyone in the top 30 in scoring is a dominant player. Really depends on how you define it.

You're the one that seems strangely really worked up that someone dared to use the word.