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ShagDaddy said:
If I had a guaranteed contract for the next 2-3 years that guaranteed me 30-40 million dollars, I wouldn’t give a crap if my bad boss was in the room or not, I’d scorched earth his ass. What’s he gonna do, take away my birthday? I’m guaranteed rich, nothing he can do about it.
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Yep, I wouldn't. Probably those nice polite Canadian boys O'Reilly, Stamkos, and Marchessault wouldn't either. They have too much "culture". :sarcasm:
 
I can't see Stamkos being happy to play the last years of his career for a jackass idiot coach and a bottom 5 team. Why wouldn't he let it rip. Why would he give a shit if he trashes Bruno to his face in front of Trotz. What are they gonna do? Buy him out? Trade him? Either one would probably be preferable to 3 more years like this last one
 
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PredsV82 said:
I can't see Stamkos being happy to play the last years of his career for a jackass idiot coach and a bottom 5 team. Why wouldn't he let it rip. Why would he give a shit if he trashes Bruno to his face in front of Trotz. What are they gonna do? Buy him out? Trade him? Either one would probably be preferable to 3 more years like this last one
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Marchy is the one that comes off to me as the guy unwilling to put up with it.
 
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I mean if the rhetoric from the front office side is that they're trying to competitive next year, there's zero shot you go in with Brunette.

But I also don't envision guys like ROR or Stamkos putting up a huge fight if the decision is to continue with Bruno. They have a cozy situation in Nashville, get paid a shitload with no state tax, absolutely zero pressure to succeed in a low-intensity market and they can just keep heading into the sunset.
 
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Scoresberg said:
I mean if the rhetoric from the front office side is that they're trying to competitive next year, there's zero shot you go in with Brunette.

But I also don't envision guys like ROR or Stamkos putting up a huge fight if the decision is to continue with Bruno. They have a cozy situation in Nashville, get paid a shitload with no state tax, absolutely zero pressure to succeed in a low-intensity market and they can just keep heading into the sunset.
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If that's true of any of these "cereal culture" guys that Trotz brought in, then Trotz clearly got played. A guy who is riding out his current contract simply for the money and with zero pride is not going to instill a "winner's mentality" in anyone. He doesn't possess it himself.
 
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Kat Predator said:
If that's true of any of these "cereal culture" guys that Trotz brought in, then Trotz clearly got played. A guy who is riding out his current contract simply for the money and with zero pride is not going to instill a "winner's mentality" in anyone. He doesn't possess it himself.
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I think the other big problem that goes hand in hand with this is accountability.

If these cereal winners are allowed to make mistakes and take nights off, and they just keep getting rolled out there shift after shift, night after night, with all the prime icetime and PP opportunity, then what message does that send to all the kids who get benched for the slightest miscue (or even for no reason at all)? I don't think you can have the culture without accountability either. It doesn't send any positive message to the guys riding the pines to watch their supposed mentors just get handed a free pass all the time.
 
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I think much of what Trotz says is basically nonsense at this point. He obviously can't say that Bruno isn't coming back unless he wants to just fire him now, but he really should just keep quiet rather than continue with this idiotic drivel. But next big test for Trotz is coming, as there is no justification to keep Bruno once the season ends.
 
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Bye Bye Blueston said:
I think much of what Trotz says is basically nonsense at this point. He obviously can't say that Bruno isn't coming back unless he wants to just fire him now, but he really should just keep quiet rather than continue with this idiotic drivel. But next big test for Trotz is coming, as there is no justification to keep Bruno once the season ends.
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If Bruno isn't fired the day after the season ends, Trotz should be shown the door and both can leave hand in hand.
 
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The problem with getting rid of anyone is the ownership transfer. Remember Haslam doesn't take over until this summer. The other owners probably don't care at this point and are likely happy to be getting out before the bottom drops out. And it may be that Haslam is content to let things ride until he gets up to speed. (At least I hope he sees what we are seeing pretty quickly).
 
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hockey diva said:
The problem with getting rid of anyone is the ownership transfer. Remember Haslam doesn't take over until this summer. The other owners probably don't care at this point and are likely happy to be getting out before the bottom drops out. And it may be that Haslam is content to let things ride until he gets up to speed. (At least I hope he sees what we are seeing pretty quickly).
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I've seen it laid out before, the 4 stages of Haslam taking over majority ownership. But I think he only has the final stage remaining? That means he has already bought 3 chunks of the shares. The 4th brings him over 50% total, so majority ownership. But even now with the 3 chunks he has already paid for, he probably has more shares than any other individual, even though it's not over 50% yet?

I would have thought that, say, if he had 40% right now, he could still be weighing in if he was inclined to. Maybe he prefers to wait until he has the full majority, but I wouldn't think there's anything stopping him from "caring" at this point, since he already owns a big part of the team right now. :dunno:
 
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hockey diva said:
The problem with getting rid of anyone is the ownership transfer. Remember Haslam doesn't take over until this summer. The other owners probably don't care at this point and are likely happy to be getting out before the bottom drops out. And it may be that Haslam is content to let things ride until he gets up to speed. (At least I hope he sees what we are seeing pretty quickly).
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Haslam has already been around the organization for two or three years. His ownership has been purchased in increments. I’m pretty sure he’s up to speed on what’s going on with the financials as well as operations.

Not sure the other owners have cared for a long time due to the money they make off non hockey related revenue generated from the arena.
 
Generally most sports owners aren't that concerned with just how much they make, most of them are just looking for break even because the real money maker is in the value of the franchise itself. Most of them just don't want money coming out of their pocket for day to day operations.
 
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Armourboy said:
Generally most sports owners aren't that concerned with just how much they make, most of them are just looking for break even because the real money maker is in the value of the franchise itself. Most of them just don't want money coming out of their pocket for day to day operations.
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Yeah, the big investment here is how the team has gone from being worth $160M to $1.2billion in just 10 years. So whether they win or lose or take in an extra $20M in a playoff run isn't the thing. It's when the team is worth $7-10billion 10 years from now. :rolleyes:
 
Armourboy said:
Generally most sports owners aren't that concerned with just how much they make, most of them are just looking for break even because the real money maker is in the value of the franchise itself. Most of them just don't want money coming out of their pocket for day to day operations.
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And the best owners are less the ones that are involved, but the ones that can identify and put quality, knowledgeable sports people to run the orgs. We have no idea how Haslam will operate except to speculate he may be more hands-on like his brother is--which isn't exactly encouraging with the state of the Browns since he took over.
 
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