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Does anyone foresee the. NBA overtaking the NHL in the ratings in Canada?

Minorities and immigrants are not synonymous lol
True. But these days they do constitute thr largest portion of them by far. Can't remember the numbers off hand but I do recall they were noticeably large compared to Europeans.

With the European birth rates so low there isn't a population pressure to see thousands of them off to other countries to relieve the pressure.
 
If Kawhi had stayed in Toronto and they had been in the mix for the NBA title for a few more years, possibly. Even in that one NBA title run you started to see Raptors gear pop up everywhere across the country.
 
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If Kawhi had stayed in Toronto and they had been in the mix for the NBA title for a few more years, possibly. Even in that one NBA title run you started to see Raptors gear pop up everywhere across the country.
I remember that.

We the North.

Drove me nuts.
 
If Kawhi had stayed in Toronto and they had been in the mix for the NBA title for a few more years, possibly. Even in that one NBA title run you started to see Raptors gear pop up everywhere across the country.
I would agree. NBA really needed a run from the Raptors (and for the Grizzlies to have stayed) to really open up the NBA in Canada to the next level.
 
I would agree. NBA really needed a run from the Raptors (and for the Grizzlies to have stayed) to really open up the NBA in Canada to the next level.
So is ur your guess that new immigrants who take an interest in sports are going to go towards hockey? Maybe soccer? I see quite a few at even CFL games.
 
So is ur your guess that new immigrants who take an interest in sports are going to go towards hockey? Maybe soccer? I see quite a few at even CFL games.
Honestly it's all over the place. We don't really have any new immigrants at work, problem 5 years in Canada is about the shortest amount of time. But they essentially for the most part picked up on whatever everyone else at work talks about and then follow whatever sports that go on back home.

Hockey is definitely been the sport though that they've all picked up on the most and purchased the most gear from, but that's because hockey is like religion in Edmonton. As for what comes after hockey for pro leagues I'd say it's ranked

NFL
CFL/NBA
MLS
UFC

I don't even know where I'd even rank Baseball in Edmonton. It doesn't appear to be all that popular even among people born and raised here. Sure whatever that team we have gets a good turn out, but I don't ever really hear anyone talking about it.
 
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Honestly it's all over the place. We don't really have any new immigrants at work, problem 5 years in Canada is about the shortest amount of time. But they essentially for the most part picked up on whatever everyone else at work talks about and then follow whatever sports that go on back home.

Hockey is definitely been the sport though that they've all picked up on the most and purchased the most gear from, but that's because hockey is like religion in Edmonton. As for what comes after hockey for pro leagues I'd say it's ranked

NFL
CFL/NBA
MLS
UFC

I don't even know where I'd even rank Baseball in Edmonton. It doesn't appear to be all that popular even among people born and raised here. Sure whatever that team we have gets a good turn out, but I don't ever really hear anyone talking about it.
After reading your post, I just realized that my impression of what sports immigrants seem to veer toward was really formed largely by HS kids.

So it may be a little skewed since adults might be a little more inclined to fit into the larger group than teens.
 
So is ur your guess that new immigrants who take an interest in sports are going to go towards hockey? Maybe soccer? I see quite a few at even CFL games.
I would say based on where new immigrants come from to Can/USA/ and even Europe, you aren't seeing much net increase between these countries/continents as you do see people going from South America, Asia, Africa to Can/USA/Europe.

First choice of sports for these immigrants is soccer. Most global sport as it has the most different nations that can get to the final 4 or elite 8 of the World Cup. Basketball would be next. Hockey, Baseball, Football going to be much harder to gain traction, especially hockey since most of the new immigrants are not coming from colder climates who would have any exposure to the sport.

Have not been to a CFL game in a while. Nor watched many on tv. So, don't know what the demographics are for it these days.
 
I would say based on where new immigrants come from to Can/USA/ and even Europe, you aren't seeing much net increase between these countries/continents as you do see people going from South America, Asia, Africa to Can/USA/Europe.

First choice of sports for these immigrants is soccer. Most global sport as it has the most different nations that can get to the final 4 or elite 8 of the World Cup. Basketball would be next. Hockey, Baseball, Football going to be much harder to gain traction, especially hockey since most of the new immigrants are not coming from colder climates who would have any exposure to the sport.

Have not been to a CFL game in a while. Nor watched many on tv. So, don't know what the demographics are for it these days.
Soccer would seem to be the obvious one since it's definitely a global sport.

Definitely hard to predict.
 
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NBA in Canada is just in a massive disadvantage not having 7 NBA franchises.

Yes but even that one Raptors title run, even in like Western Canada I started seeing tons of people, especially kids sporting Raptors gear all over the place. It's a bit of a pity Kawhi Leonard opted to not stay for an extra year or two, he could've joined the Clippers any time after that.
 
I think with all of the immigration in Canada we will see a large increase in diversity around the league, which is already becoming noticeable

However, hockey's overall popularity as a sport will decrease in Canada

So I think there will be more hockey fans overall, but hockey could easily lose it's place as Canada's #1 sport
 
There is no situation. It is rather an entirely obsolete question.

Hockey is an undeniable, inescapable part of Canadian culture. Canada is hockey, hockey is Canada. Millions of immigrants came, millions of immigrants embraced, love and grew hockey, every motherf***ing day, for at least the past 100 years. And technically since the inception of hockey, which is a hybrid of native Canadian and British immigrants sports.
The immigration is primary Indian now though. Every day of the week I 100% have more interactions with Indian people than Canadians with European heritage. Not only does Indian culture TYPICALLY not embrace hockey, but sports in general aren't very popular outside of a small subset of the population.

That said, almost all of the Canadians that I know who have European backgrounds have at least a general knowledge of the sport and how the local team is doing, right up to still playing rec league into their 60's and 70s
 
I think with all of the immigration in Canada we will see a large increase in diversity around the league, which is already becoming noticeable

However, hockey's overall popularity as a sport will decrease in Canada

So I think there will be more hockey fans overall, but hockey could easily lose it's place as Canada's #1 sport
Good point. Never thought of that. So hockey could become #2 but still have more fans in absolute numbers
 
Basketball is less exciting than curling. One would have thought that if Canada's demographic changes and the cost of grass roots participation were going to dethrone the NHL it would only be football / soccer that could possibly do that, and only in very long term if at all. Mind you, top level football is also boring, low event, filled with cheating / simulation and is hyped up beyond its true value as sporting entertainment.

Hockey remains the greatest team spectator sport on Earth, and that's coming from an ex-pat South Londoner who was crying his eyes put with disbelieving delight watching Palace lift the FA Cup.
 
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Basketball is less exciting than curling.

Hockey remains the greatest team spectator sport on Earth, and that's coming from an ex-pat South Londoner who was crying his eyes put with disbelieving delight watching Palace lift the FA Cup.
Crystal Palace won the FA Cup? When? 1914? 😏
 
Yes but even that one Raptors title run, even in like Western Canada I started seeing tons of people, especially kids sporting Raptors gear all over the place. It's a bit of a pity Kawhi Leonard opted to not stay for an extra year or two, he could've joined the Clippers any time after that.
Losing the Grizzlies was a massive blow. But, the Raptors needed Kawhi to remain in Toronto vs go to LAC. Would have really been able to build on the title had they gotten to another final 4 or two over the next 3 seasons after that.
 
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I've always been amazed by how many football teams there are in London. 5 alone in the EPL?

How would NA leagues be different with a history of relegation rather than monopoly.
Never going to see relegation in NA sports. Too much money tied up in the valuations of the teams. Plus, the draft vs how soccer does their developmental programs.
 
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I've always been amazed by how many football teams there are in London. 5 alone in the EPL?

How would NA leagues be different with a history of relegation rather than monopoly.
Community & tribalism vs "franchises", in a nutshell. And the London "metro area" to coin NA phrasing, is geographically huge. Not Tokyo huge, but still very big. When most of these teams were being founded, there was no all-encompassing urban sprawl and homogenisation; the Crystal Palace was in an outlying suburb, as was Brentford. Arsenal was originally the works team from the huge weapons manufactory in Woolwich, South East London etc etc etc.
 
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Community & tribalism vs "franchises", in a nutshell. And the London "metro area" to coin NA phrasing, is geographically huge. Not Tokyo huge, but still very big. When most of these teams were being founded, there was no all-encompassing urban sprawl and homogenisation; the Crystal Palace was in an outlying suburb, as was Brentford. Arsenal was originally the works team from the huge weapons manufactory in Woolwich, South East London etc etc etc.
True. A lot of history combined with urban growth.

For shits & giggles I memorized all the boroughs(right word?) of London on a trivia site. Happy to report that I was able to successfully complete them- and them promptly forgot every single one of them, but not the city name of Linden!
 
I've always been amazed by how many football teams there are in London. 5 alone in the EPL?

How would NA leagues be different with a history of relegation rather than monopoly.
I'm sure if those leagues started more recently and didn't have that structure engrained into the sport we would have seen a similar closed league structure. Luckily fans pushed back on the super league idea.
 
I'm sure if those leagues started more recently and didn't have that structure engrained into the sport we would have seen a similar closed league structure. Luckily fans pushed back on the super league idea.
Honestly, I think the Super League is inevitable.

Too much $$$$
 

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