Speculation: Do You Want Gerard Gallant Fired?

Do You Want Gerard Gallant Fired?

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I wonder if we can get Brunette from the devils.

He would be my #1 target.

Fire Gallant the day after season ends, no point in doing it now, and go hard after Brunette if devils would let him talk to us.
 
I have too. Several times. He lacks manners, intelligence and decency. Met his father too, who is a true gentleman. So much for that fruit and tree theory.
I wonder if we can get Brunette from the devils.

He would be my #1 target.

Fire Gallant the day after season ends, no point in doing it now, and go hard after Brunette if devils would let him talk to us.
So Brunettes running the show in Jersey? Cause I believe that the rangers "struggles" have as much to do with Gallant as the Debbie's "success " has to do with Lindy Ruff.
 
I wonder if we can get Brunette from the devils.

He would be my #1 target.

Fire Gallant the day after season ends, no point in doing it now, and go hard after Brunette if devils would let him talk to us.

I wouldnt mind Brunette. But we need to get rid of ortemeyer and glass, we need actual players who had skill in the nhl to teach our kids. enough of these guys who literally could do nothing more than hit.
 
I have too. Several times. He lacks manners, intelligence and decency. Met his father too, who is a true gentleman. So much for that fruit and tree theory.

So Brunettes running the show in Jersey? Cause I believe that the rangers "struggles" have as much to do with Gallant as the Debbie's "success " has to do with Lindy Ruff.
Brunette ran the show in florida after coach Q and was a jack adams finalist.

He was assistant there for 4 years. He is young, and worked with younger players well down there.

I think he would be perfect.
 
Do you want Gerard Gallant Fired?
No. This team's record is better than their talent, but blaming the coach is easier than admitting that our top 2 right wings are a top 10 bust and a guy will never live up to being drafted second overall. In my whole life, I never saw this base like the coach because it's so easy to make 1 guy the scapegoat.

Sometimes you just don't have enough talent to win like Boston does. The solution isn't always to fire the coach.
 
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I vote yes, largely because I have a feeling some of the roster choices were also influenced by Gallant. Reaves and Carpenter specifically.

I also believe Gallant's lack of trust in players, like Miller, Chytil leads to the Rangers signing guys like Nemeth and overpaying in term for a Trocheck. I do not soley blame him for that, just seems like if the coach conveyed something like, "I'm going to use those guys more often this up coming season", maybe the GM makes different choices.

Is this based on some insider info or just the desire to pile on the coach and imagining what you want to imagine?
 
I cant even imagine why almost half the folks here want this guy fired.
The most disposable thing in sports is a NHL coach.
Unless Drury fancies himself stepping in.
Cant find a single beef with G's coaching of this team.

It's because people are mostly trying the blame players not being up to snuff on the organization. That somehow we need to change development tactics to teach players at the NHL level as if they were peewee and bantom players all they need to know to be superstars and elite players. Obviously, the coach is the easiest target for this frame of thinking.
 
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I cant even imagine why almost half the folks here want this guy fired.
The most disposable thing in sports is a NHL coach.
Unless Drury fancies himself stepping in.
Cant find a single beef with G's coaching of this team.
I mean, with the average age on here? That doesn't surprise me. Most people weren't even around when Sather was running the show and can't fathom how this problem far, far, far transcends freaking Gallant.

It's kind of mind-blowing, actually.
 
It's because people are mostly trying the blame players not being up to snuff on the organization. That somehow we need to change development tactics to teach players at the NHL level as if they were peewee and bantom players all they need to know to be superstars and elite players. Obviously, the coach is the easiest target for this frame of thinking.
Based on your post why even have coaches. I mean if players cannot be coached or developed why even have them.

Just let the players run wild. Which is basically gallant hockey.

Coaches can and do have a huge impact. Look at the islanders once they got trotz with basically the same roster. Or trotz with washington.

I dont know why some believe that coaches cant influence player development. Hell we even hear from players themselves that a coach made tit “click” for them.

Just think about your own jb. If u have a shitty boss u probably arent going to be as productive as if u had a boss that was good. Same reasoning.

Some of us think gallant is shitty.

I mean, with the average age on here? That doesn't surprise me. Most people weren't even around when Sather was running the show and can't fathom how this problem far, far, far transcends freaking Gallant.

It's kind of mind-blowing, actually.

I believe it goes back further than Sather.
 
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People and Rangers management need to realize its the players. Had the same issue with Quinn. Even on those AV teams, they had more grit and he was considered a soft type of coach. Last time they had a consistent mix of grit and skill was the Tort teams.
 
I wanna know the specific reason to change the coach.
Unless its just the motivation to have a different voice i the locker room to create motivation out of air.
 
How about we just finally change how the f*** we develop players? We've tried everything else even though I and others on here have been HOWLING about the player development issue for years, now. We are excellent at developing defenders and goaltenders.

We are horrific at developing impact forwards. We can develop two-way forwards all day, it feels like.

This has been a problem, now, since at least the early 00s. I actually think it goes back well before then, but you start getting hazy when you have truly different people in the upper management. Frankly, I place most of this at the feet of Sather. He's really the one constant with all of this and it is abundantly clear that his philosophy is something the organization has fully embraced from top to bottom.

He may only be an advisor, now, but I don't think anyone could convince me that Drury is not his disciple and that Dolan doesn't agree with his philosophy. The organization is broken.

And people on here just want a new coach. F***ing easy way out bullshit once again. But whatever.
It's not just young forwards, either.

The guy with the biggest contract is the scapegoat for the people who aren't scapegoating the coach, and he didn't have any of these problems until he got here.

The biggest issue on the ice is that we don't score enough. Jettison a guy getting 90 points on a bad day, replace him with Joe Hockey, and tell me a story about how your scoring goes up. Have a nice time with that.

I think the problem is that the Rangers fundamentally believe you're either one of the stars, or you have to sacrifice offense to support the stars. One extreme or the other.

If you're a top guy, you do what you want, you don't play the system, you pick your linemates, and you have no repercussions for picking and choosing what you put effort into. This is what we're seeing with Panarin.

At the same time, unless one of the kids jumped right in and dominated like a McDavid, they were always going to become support pieces.

You can say it's the coach, but the same clowns are hiring the coaches. Certain posters will say "it's been two decades and multiple GM's!!" Drury apprenticed under Gorton and Gorton apprenticed under Sather. Sather is still on the payroll to this day. The owner is the same guy. Not that much meaningfully changed.
 
I have too. Several times. He lacks manners, intelligence and decency. Met his father too, who is a true gentleman. So much for that fruit and tree theory.

So Brunettes running the show in Jersey? Cause I believe that the rangers "struggles" have as much to do with Gallant as the Debbie's "success " has to do with Lindy Ruff.
Be careful. You might end up on his list. If you do make into the building he might have security guards whisper in your ear all night that he knows you’re in the building and they’re watching you…
 
People and Rangers management need to realize its the players. Had the same issue with Quinn. Even on those AV teams, they had more grit and he was considered a soft type of coach. Last time they had a consistent mix of grit and skill was the Tort teams.
did not have the same issues under Quinn though. The team was dynamic and exciting.

Under Gallant this team has become even more dull than the Islanders with 3x the talent
 
I would rank them

Torts
Quinn
AV
Gallant
This "Quinn was at least fun" theory is insane, nonsensical, contrary to history, reality, human endeavor, and our understanding of the world around us. People who say that are either lying for the gimmick or so wrapped up in the gimmick that they actually forgot.

Quinn's teams played exactly like this with exactly the same "I hate the coach" complaints every single night, only with less winning.

The only year Quinn's teams scored at a halfway decent rate against quality opposition was the year the Torts version of Panarin came over.

Gallant's Rangers, say what you will about the rest of the series, beat Carolina 11-4 in back to back elimination games. Quinn's Rangers got swept by Carolina in the most boring, most lopsided, most comical, most preseason ass playoff series in modern NHL history.

I still have occasional Nam flashbacks to the August we went though the void and played three unwatchable exhibition games in a playoff series and scored four goals. The guy who did that is better than the guy who took us to the ECF.

How dare you even tell people that out loud and have the audacity to apparently believe yourself?
 
did not have the same issues under Quinn though. The team was dynamic and exciting.

Under Gallant this team has become even more dull than the Islanders with 3x the talent

Quinn dynamically led the team to an amazing 96-87 when he coached.

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I hope we re-hire Quinn.
 
Quinn is currently coaching a team that sits at 13-28-5 and has scored more goals than ONE other team. One. 31st in the league in goals.

And that's despite the fact that they're employing a defenseman who already has like 120 f***ing even strength points. They literally have no other f***ing goals all f***ing year besides the ones Karlsson scored or assisted on.

Offensive guru David Quinn.
 
This "Quinn was at least fun" theory is insane, nonsensical, contrary to history, reality, human endeavor, and our understanding of the world around us. People who say that are either lying for the gimmick or so wrapped up in the gimmick that they actually forgot.

Quinn's teams played exactly like this with exactly the same "I hate the coach" complaints every single night, only with less winning.

The only year Quinn's teams scored at a halfway decent rate against quality opposition was the year the Torts version of Panarin came over.

Gallant's Rangers, say what you will about the rest of the series, beat Carolina 11-4 in back to back elimination games. Quinn's Rangers got swept by Carolina in the most boring, most lopsided, most comical, most preseason ass playoff series in modern NHL history.

I still have occasional Nam flashbacks to the August we went though the void and played three unwatchable exhibition games in a playoff series and scored four goals. The guy who did that is better than the guy who took us to the ECF.

How dare you even tell people that out loud and have the audacity to apparently believe yourself?
Not that im endorsing quinn, by he also did have us playing the best hockey from like jan to covid that year.

But his last year here the team tuned him out.

And i take zero stock in the covid summer games.

Not sure what to make on him as a coach overall but it was clearly his time to go here.

Gallant though, indont like anything about. His got vigneaults smugness with a quarter of his brains.
 
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Not that im endorsing quinn, by he also did have us playing the best hockey from like jan to covid that year.

But his last year here the team tuned him out.

And i take zero stock in the covid summer games.

Not sure what to make on him as a coach overall but it was clearly his time to go here.

Gallant though, indont like anything about. His got vigneaults smugness with a quarter of his brains.
Most of that run was ZIbanejad scoring a goal per game.

It's a good thing you took zero stock in the covid summer games because neither did the Rangers. Team got gifted a shot at the playoffs and just decided "nah we don't feel like it." Good coaching.

Did we score a goal against the Islanders or Bruins Quinn's entire tenure? Legitimately asking.

We can't say "the covid playoffs don't count" and then put stock in the year we played the Sabres, Devils, and Flyers 24 times.
 
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