Salary Cap: Do you trust Kyle Dubas with salary negotiations?

[AllDay28]

so many knowledgeable capologists in this thread. cant wait to see you guys excel in the pros.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

And he managed to break Bozak's team record for Takeaways.

I've seen 3 good takeaways since November.

I hope Matthews can take the heat better than Nylander.

How do we pay McDavid money ... to a guy that's not McDavid.

Something is wrong

 

[Menzinger]

Who is Matthews comparable at $11.6 million x 5 years?

That's a better contract than McDavid got due to the term .... even when considering cap growth

Crosby, Malkin, Kane, Toews plus a few others all signed for between 11-17% of a team’s cap-space on 5-6 year deals post ELC. Matthews is right in the middle of those guys (as he should be).

 

[trellaine201]

Why would Dubas come out and say Marner will be a Leaf for a long time? Why share this? Doesn’t this back him into a corner? Does he know something we don’t?

*shrug*

 

[DarkKnight]

He look, now the NO side is ahead. Wonder why?

 

[moon111]

I've seen 3 good takeaways since November.

I hope Matthews can take the heat better than Nylander.

How do we pay McDavid money ... to a fit that's not McDavid.

Something is wrong

You do realize McDavid has never beaten Matthew's current point/60 pace he's on this season right?

 

[DarkKnight]

Why would Dubas come out and say Marner will be a Leaf for a long time? Why share this? Doesn’t this back him into a corner? Does he know something we don’t?

*shrug*

He talks too much sometimes.

 

[StevenB]

Tavares’ deal was under market value
Nylander’s deal was market value
Matthews’ deal was market value

While he hasn’t shown that he can convince players to take discounts (Tavares did that for himself) he hasn’t overpaid any players either. So for now I don’t really feel either way but Marner’s contract is ether going to make or break his negotiation legacy

 

[HamiltonNHL]

You do realize McDavid has never beaten Matthew's current point/60 pace he's on this season right?

McDavid plays by himself.

Hockey is a team game.

 

[Joey Hoser]

He look, now the NO side is ahead. Wonder why?

Probably because the people who think this deal is fine aren't excited enough to help rehash an old poll to say it's fine.

 

[Romkey]

Wow lots of NHL GMs in this thread. I'm honoured to be surrounded by such astute hockey minds.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Nylander's holdout added AAV to Matthews. Matthews would have negotiated before the season.

You know Marner fleeces the team this summer.

 

[Papi 4 Hart]

Matthews 11.6 makes Willy's 6.9 look like peanuts.

At the end of the day I would rather not nickle and dime over star players. Drive a harder bargain with the role player guys that should be taking discounts to play with skilled players that inflate their stats.

 

[sxvnert]

I trust Dubas' cap management/plan a lot more. I expect some serious cap shedding to take place this summer (Marleau, Zaitsev, Brown..etc).

 

[sxvnert]

Nylander's holdout added AAV to Matthews. Matthews would have negotiated before the season.

You know Marner fleeces the team this summer.

7 years/11m aav

 

[Leafs87]

Only thing I can hope is that Dubas knows something that’s about to drastically change about the make up of deals that we all don’t know.

Maybe something happening in the next CBA?

 

[Menzinger]

Nylander's holdout added AAV to Matthews. Matthews would have negotiated before the season.

You know Marner fleeces the team this summer.

You have no idea that could have happened.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

7 years/11m aav

3 forwards over 11 AAV.

We won't win anything.

We are Chicago but without any cups.

 

[Cor]

Why would Dubas come out and say Marner will be a Leaf for a long time? Why share this? Doesn’t this back him into a corner? Does he know something we don’t?

*shrug*

Lebrun talked about that.

He says it's a clear message to other teams in regards to potential offer sheets.

 

[93LEAFS]

I'll wait and see how the RFA deals league-wide (Rantanen, Aho, Laine, Tkachuk, Werenski, etc) play out before passing judgment. But, I am skeptical at this point.

 

[Matthews34]

Dubas should be fired after these contracts. He's become Nonis 2.0

 

[drewjenks]

Crosby, Malkin, Kane, Toews plus a few others all signed for between 11-17% of a team’s cap-space on 5-6 year deals post ELC. Matthews is right in the middle of those guys (as he should be).

Matthews isn't Crosby / Malkin.

Kane & Teows didn't sign those deals (they signed big THIRD deals after 3 cups).

 

[Romkey]

Dubas should be fired after these contracts. He's become Nonis 2.0

Ya Nonis 2.0

Clarkson = Tavares signing
Matthews = Kessel signing
Trading for Andersen = Bernier trade
Trading for Muzzin = Tim Gleason trade.

Damn I wish Dubas was as good as Nonis.

 

[Rare Jewel]

You have no idea that could have happened.

Both he and Marner have been eligible since July to sign an extension.

They could have, we don't know what the numbers were if they did talk.

 

[willmma]

Why would Dubas come out and say Marner will be a Leaf for a long time? Why share this? Doesn’t this back him into a corner? Does he know something we don’t?

*shrug*

It does not back him into a corner. It just means that based on his knowledge of the cap and the negotiations he is fairly confident it will happen. And he probably wants to comfort fans that are a bit jittery in this town.

And if it doesn't work out it's no big deal. He doesn't have to sacrifice anything just to save face. He's not actually committed to anything.