Do you think Breadman will finally crack 100 pts this season?

[GoAwayPanarin]

I don't even think he's going to hit 70 this year.

I'm probably as down on him as anyone but if he stays healthy, he'll break 70.

What he does in the playoffs is what matters though. I expect he'll be a dud there again if the Rangers get in.

 

[RangerBoy]

Three more seasons including this season for Panarin. The end of the contract can't come soon enough.

 

[romba]

I don't even think he's going to hit 70 this year.

wow that would be a steeper regression then Stepan's hairline

 

[TGWL]

He could score 150 and it won't mean shit if he disappears again in the playoffs

I mean it probably means we comfortably made playoffs and had an entertaining season to watch as fans.

 

[GAGLine]

wow that would be a steeper regression then Stepan's hairline

In his 1st year as a Ranger, he was worth 11.6 mil. Even in his second year, I'd say he was worth it even though the numbers weren't quite as good. In the last two years, he has absolutely not been worth that contract, as his numbers have regressed significantly at 5 on 5:

The only reason he still puts up the points he does in the regular season is because the PP has been very good that last 2 seasons:

In his 1st year, he was a 200 foot player. He backchecked, worked hard in all 3 zones, and went to the dirty areas of the ice. Now he does none of that. He has become a perimeter player who makes his living off of risky plays and by getting more ice time than any other forward on the team.

I'm hoping that Lavi can get him to play the way he did when he first came to the Rangers, the way Torts taught him to play. Even if it results in less points for him, it will ultimately make us a better team.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Vegas has his line at o/u 93.5, so it’s unlikely barring a season-long shooting% bender. Laviolette’s teams usually don’t have their best players exceed the PPG threshold by that much, but I still expect Panarin to be their leading scorer.

Assuming fully healthy years, I’m going to guess with their current forward set-up we’ll see their top guys post 82g paces for something like this. I’m probably being a bit optimistic and generous here:

Panarin: 24G-63A-87pts
Zibanejad: 35G-46A-81pts
Kreider: 32G-26A-58pts
Trocheck: 26G-38A-64pts
Kakko: 21G-31A-52pts
Chytil: 23G-33A-56pts

Leaving out guys like Wheeler/Laf/Cuylle since I think they’ll be moving around the top-9 a lot, while the six guys I listed will have the most stable roles. Didn’t add in the defense either, but you’d figure it’s heavily carried by Fox with contributions from everyone else. If Matt Carle can score 40 under Laviolette, you have to be optimistic about Miller and Gus.

Once they get their bearings, I’m going to guess they end up in a similar spot as last year being above league average in scoring (12th most goals) and near best in goals against (4th fewest). That’ll be their recipe for success if they can add in playing with more structure and in a sound system

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I think nobody on this team will approach 90 points.

The offense is going to be gutter trash for a large portion of the season as the core grapples with playing in an actual system.

The PP has gone stale too.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

He's been trending down and nothing in the preseason led me to believe that will change, so no.

 

[Daves a mess]

Sure.

Day after Laugh pots his 40th.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

My god this forum's faith in Panarin is at an all-time low.. sad to see.

That's no one but Panarins fault. He's playing an extremely selfish brand of hockey these days. Rack up easy, non-contact assists on the power play and float around 5 on 5.

I'd be surprised if he cracks 85 this year, let alone 100. His 5 on 5 play is abysmal.

 

[bigdog16]

I don't understand the narrative that he "only scores on the PP". Over the past 3 years, 37% of his points have come from the PP.

Every top end player feasts on the PP. Over the past 3 years almost all the top end guys sit between 25-40%. McDavid and Drai are 40% and 41%.

 

[TominNC]

No. Setting expectations at 100 is creating a scenario so you can be disappointed.

 

[SA16]

That's no one but Panarins fault. He's playing an extremely selfish brand of hockey these days. Rack up easy, non-contact assists on the power play and float around 5 on 5.

I'd be surprised if he cracks 85 this year, let alone 100. His 5 on 5 play is abysmal.

His "Abysmal" 5v5 play led forwards on the team in pts/60 and CF%.

 

[jacko23]

As long as we're a playoff team, I won't get on his case if he only puts up 60. He's under the microscope in the playoffs though.

I sure will when you consider his price tag. I mean, for his price tag, he should be putting up 100pts, but management offered him the deal. He wasnt wrong for taking it.

 

[yada]

Around 85 points

 

[GAGLine]

I don't understand the narrative that he "only scores on the PP". Over the past 3 years, 37% of his points have come from the PP.

Every top end player feasts on the PP. Over the past 3 years almost all the top end guys sit between 25-40%. McDavid and Drai are 40% and 41%.

If Panarin puts up 120+ points, I'll let it slide, but the fact remains that his 5 on 5 numbers have declined every year.

 

[markymarc1215]

No, and it is best for this team if he doesn't. We need other players to pick up some of his production.

 

[eco's bones]

It shouldn't be a primary focus. If it happens it happens.

What I'd like to see is Laviolette taking more control over Artemi's ice time than Gallant did. Artemi has a bad habit of overextending his shifts and when it happens in the defensive zone we often wind up bleeding goals and sometimes wins.

 

[mas0764]

I want to be optimistic.

His PP production will be there IMO.

His 5v5 production has much more potential

So, yes. He breaks 100

I enjoy your optimism about the 5v5 improvements under Lavi and I hope you are correct. I’m nervous.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

I know it was a pipe dream but I would have preferred to shed Panarin and keep Tank. Guy is abysmal in the playoffs and decided it was his hairs fault, that was his adjustment during the offseason lol.

 

[Salsa Shark]

60-40 No but he definitely could. People act like he isn't a lock for 90 points because pessimism is cool.

 

[duhmetreE]

I know it was a pipe dream but I would have preferred to shed Panarin and keep Tank. Guy is abysmal in the playoffs and decided it was his hairs fault, that was his adjustment during the offseason lol.

lol

 

[NickyFotiu]

In my view he already broke 100 by having like 95 in under 70 games.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

60-40 No but he definitely could. People act like he isn't a lock for 90 points because pessimism is cool.

Or because we've been paying attention to the trends/have noticed the degradation of some of his skills.

 

[Salsa Shark]

Or because we've been paying attention to the trends/have noticed the degradation of some of his skills.

He's a shoo-in for 90 points in an increased scoring environment