Do we have a legitimate shot at another cup?
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I agree a legit Voynov replacement is needed. Muzzin is great but hes a support member, but we need someone to help shoulder the weight with Doughty.
kingskring
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Herby
How could Blake have known?
I'm just going to assume that DL adds a defender, even if it's a bottom pairing guy, there is zero chance the Kings risk going into the playoffs with such a thin defensive grouping. I mean, God help us if even a guy like Martinez got hurt. We can make it work with one of Gravel, McBain, Forbort, Ehrhoff, but if we have an injury we are looking at two of those guys in there, we would be like the Hawks last year and that's skating on thin ice.
So with that being said, I think it comes down to the bottom six again. In 2012 and 2014 the Kings got contributions throughout the lineup. In 2013 they got nothing from the third and fourth lines.
Unfortunate what happened with Gabby, because I think with him and VL the Kings were looking at finally having a third line capable of generating some offense. Hopefully he an return for the playoffs.
So with that being said, I think it comes down to the bottom six again. In 2012 and 2014 the Kings got contributions throughout the lineup. In 2013 they got nothing from the third and fourth lines.
Unfortunate what happened with Gabby, because I think with him and VL the Kings were looking at finally having a third line capable of generating some offense. Hopefully he an return for the playoffs.
Ziggy Stardust
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I think the Kings have just as good of a chance as any team to contend for a Cup.
Chicago relied heavily on their top 3-4 dmen last season, and I sense the Kings doing the same with Doughty, Muzzin and Martinez.
If Quick performs in the clutch as he's done in the past, I think the Kings have a great shot at a third Cup.
Chicago relied heavily on their top 3-4 dmen last season, and I sense the Kings doing the same with Doughty, Muzzin and Martinez.
If Quick performs in the clutch as he's done in the past, I think the Kings have a great shot at a third Cup.
I think they have a great shot if they get into the playoffs and right now they're looking to be on pace to get to the dance.
are 11 and 77 still the 1 & 2 centers? do they have 2 stud d-men in 6 and 8 that can raise the play in their partners? do they have quick in the net? I like the chances in 7 games against every match up in the west. and that's with ignoring everything that everyone else brings to their roles.
Raccoon Jesus
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Amen.
BUT--I think this is our best, and last, shot as a 'top-3 contender.'
After this year, we fall back into the playoff pack, and there's always a shot, but I feel we'll have more in common with the 2010 and 2011 versions of the Kings than the 2012-2016. No shame in that. a 4-5 year peak/window is what you ask for and we've been the cream of the crop twice in that time, more than many franchises could ask for. DL deserves full marks for not letting at all fall apart before it got started, and for potentially prolonging it with saavy and some risky moves.
Basilisk
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Dude, we're set up perfectly to win the next THREE Cups! We might actually get four in the next five years, but then the massive decline kicks in......
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I think our core will be just fine and dandy for the next handful of years, but there's no denying the young talent in this league will keep getting better.
Think of how we overtook the Datsyuks, Sedins, Thorntons....the McDavids, Seguins, and especially Ekblad (I think he will be THE generational d-man next) etc. will eventually get on top of us when their supporting casts mature as well (and as they make key UFA signings who see these places as up and coming, like Mitchell).
Basilisk
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While all of this is true, there's one thing we've got that 29 other teams do not have, and that's Dean Lombardi!
SettlementRichie10
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Absolutely. I still think we're looking for the magic 1-9 forward setup to really go deep, though. Adding Carter in 2012 aligned everybody else. Bringing up Pearson in 2014 created the 70s line. What combo will it be this year?
I think it's obvious at this point Sutter is going to play Doughty, Muzzin, and Martinez into the dirt in the playoffs if we want a shot. I don't have many concerns there.
I think it's obvious at this point Sutter is going to play Doughty, Muzzin, and Martinez into the dirt in the playoffs if we want a shot. I don't have many concerns there.
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Especially with Martinez looking like a turd sandwich the more he plays. I don't know if it's too many minutes exposing him or wearing him out.
You get some hot goaltending, mixed in with some balanced scoring, and steady D, you have a shot. Right now, even though we are in first place in the division, I don't think this team is anything special. It's been a whirlwind at D, I don't think the Kings will get any sort of upgrade on D at thr trade deadline. We might get someone, but an upgrade? That will be debatable when it happens. Most likely another body that just struggles to fit in, like Ehrhoff and Schenn. I believe McBain has adjusted as well as he possibly could, but DS cringes at his lack of physical play. He does provide some good PP minutes, which the Kings could have used in the last game against the Devils. In the end, I think they are probably one of about 7 teams that could win the cup. I don't think it will be s bonus winning the division. It will just make the first round difficult, which they could lose to a team like Nashville.
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The right guys need to be going at the right time, and then someone unexpected has to bring a little extra to the table. That happened in 2012, when Kopitar, Doughty, and Quick were all very good, and then Brown caught a hurricane in a bottle, and King was big in the Coyotes series. Along with everyone else doing their job for the most part. You can go through the whole roster in 2012, pretty much every guy had at least one moment where they did something big. In 2013, they didn't get enough from Kopitar or Doughty to get past the 3rd round. In 2014, after the first couple games, they got Kopitar, Doughty, Quick playing well. Muzzin added something. Then the 70's line came alive against Chicago, and Gaborik and Williams were a little ridiculous.
Basically, if Kopitar, Doughty, and Quick are playing well, and they get help when needed, the Kings have a shot. That's the same formula for every team though. The teams that win have all of those parts working at the same time. Top guys, and depth guys. If it's just one or the other, you can go a round or two, but that'll be it.
Basically, if Kopitar, Doughty, and Quick are playing well, and they get help when needed, the Kings have a shot. That's the same formula for every team though. The teams that win have all of those parts working at the same time. Top guys, and depth guys. If it's just one or the other, you can go a round or two, but that'll be it.
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I agree.
But to the 2nd point, I don't care if we give up those guys if we get a long-term d-man back because we have nothing apparent in the system to fill the Voynov hole. For a rental? Blecch.
mrkolice
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just a reminder. we've all been through the die hard 2014 season. that's how it goes with lak. lak = contenders even if they're 0-3 behind in the series.
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Add a solid bottom pair defender and with a Gabby's return. Hell yes. There is a high probability of us winning the Cup again.
KingsFan7824
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I don't know which record the Kings could break this time, but if they find one to break, they'll win the Cup again.
