News Article: Do the Rangers have a culture problem? An exclusive look at what's bubbling at MSG

[Levitate]

It's been rotten for over twenty years

20 years ago was 2004!
You can’t tell me the culture was good before that! lol

 

[Kords]

Just getting caught up in this thread. I have nothing to offer other than how funny Vince is for lobbing this grenade of an article and then going on paternity leave till February. I wouldn't wanna have to walk in the locker room or pass by Drury the next day either, maybe by then they will have forgot!

 

[McRanger92]

Just getting caught up in this thread. I have nothing to offer other than how funny Vince is for lobbing this grenade of an article and then going on paternity leave till February. I wouldn't wanna have to walk in the locker room or pass by Drury the next day either, maybe by then they will have forgot!

Are you serious? Talk about unprofessional. He learned a lot from our veterans

 

[Kords]

Are you serious? Talk about unprofessional. He learned a lot from our veterans

Yeah, on his podcast this morning he mentioned he had some time left over and wanted to use it before it expired. I’ll give him the benefit of doubt but the timing is funny to say the least.

 

[wolfgaze]

It's not rocket science. If you treat your employees with respect, they'll probably work harder for you. A conversation with Goodrow in the middle of the summer to the effect of "we appreciate your time here, but we're in a tough spot. We're going to move on from you, we'll look for a trade that works for us and works for you, but if that doesn't work we'll put you on waivers" is so easy and not asking much.

The expectation that GM's should inform players when they are actively being shopped is a recipe for disaster. What happens if a trade doesn't materialize in a timely fashion and GM's end up with player on their hands who is either depressed or disgruntled and their level of play suffers even more than what it already was like? Now you've got a player whose value is made even lower than what it already was - all because you informed them you were actively trying to trade and move on from them. This way of handling business could also result disrupting existing team chemistry and causing player/management issues once everyone knows that a certain player is actively being shopped. Not a wise strategy from GM's and this is why they do not inform every player they are thinking about trading or actively exploring trade options for.

NHL Players should fully understand that the ability to earn millions of dollars playing their favorite sport comes with trade-offs that include abruptly being informed that you've been traded and have to relocate yourself and family to another part of North America to continue earning millions of dollars playing their favorite sport. I don't feel bad for them for having to deal with this hardship when they are earning millions of dollars to play a sport they love.

 

[gabevh3]

20 years ago was 2004!
You can’t tell me the culture was good before that! lol

I wrote over twenty...i would say even before Gretzky retired.

 

[McRanger92]

Brooks, Boyle and Mollie covered the Kakko and locker room situations perfectly on their podcast.

 

[will1066]

20 years ago was 2004!
You can’t tell me the culture was good before that! lol

Well, there was literally no culture that year

 

[wolfgaze]

Brooks, Boyle and Mollie covered the Kakko and locker room situations perfectly on their podcast.

 

[wolfgaze]

Larry Brooks at the 13:05 mark of that podcast: "There is an air of victimhood in that locker room that I just don't get at all". He also makes reference to there being an "air of grievance" in the locker room and characterized the players as being like "mites" - implying they are being childlike/immature, and not conducting themselves like mature adults and professionals.

 

[Grifter3511]

The expectation that GM's should inform players when they are actively being shopped is a recipe for disaster. What happens if a trade doesn't materialize in a timely fashion and GM's end up with player on their hands who is either depressed or disgruntled and their level of play suffers even more than what it already was like? Now you've got a player whose value is made even lower than what it already was - all because you informed them you were actively trying to trade and move on from them. This way of handling business could also result disrupting existing team chemistry and causing player/management issues once everyone knows that a certain player is actively being shopped. Not a wise strategy from GM's and this is why they do not inform every player they are thinking about trading or actively exploring trade options for.

NHL Players should fully understand that the ability to earn millions of dollars playing their favorite sport comes with trade-offs that include abruptly being informed that you've been traded and have to relocate yourself and family to another part of North America to continue earning millions of dollars playing their favorite sport. I don't feel bad for them for having to deal with this hardship when they are earning millions of dollars to play a sport they love.

So how do NTCs work? Do you submit your list at the beginning of your contract? Do you submit a new one at the start of each year? Or does it not enter into the equation until the team is trying to move the player? If it's the latter of the three, it makes sense a GM would talk to the player in advance. Better than hammering out some details with another team's GM only to find out your player won't waive.

I'm assuming it doesn't work that way. But I honestly don't know. My apologies if it's been mentioned somewhere in this thread before.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

I think the best thing we can do is to put Dolan, all of Rangers management, SATHER, yes, him too, the team in one room, and....

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Larry Brooks is a click bait donkey

 

[eco's bones]

Larry Brooks is a click bait donkey

I was thinking that too. Maybe there's something real to what he's saying but the more salacious he can make this the more readers he's going to hook. He's very much a New York Post journalist though I do think he's a Rangers fan too. He was gushing over them last year but end of the day for him it's all to be turned into some kind of entertainment.

He's different than the other beat writers. He can thrive off of confrontation.....like his battles with Torts or the bashing he took from Dan Boyle with his 'Who me?' playing the victim card. Boyle was to some degree washed up at that point though.

 

[Peltz]

Larry Brooks is a click bait donkey

You always gotta take his articles with a grain of salt. He’s the best resource we have but also a sensationalist.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Chris Drury running this org like he's in charge of the Stasi doesn't surprise me at all, considering the communications I've had sent my way from Rangers PR since he took over

Employees being reprimanded for interacting with players, those players being instructed they're not allowed to interact with fans "outside the designated areas" (whatever that means), reporters being told to keep certain things quiet that happens in practice...

You couldn't pay me enough to accept a job at MSG. What a terrible, toxic environment that must be.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Yeah probably because he’s shitting himself knowing he can’t get rid of all these guys who hate his guts. And it would be a lot easier to get rid of him

No, he is doing it because that's the right thing to do. I don't think Drury is shitting himself.

I think based on some of the comments, many people have never spent a second in a leadership role.

 

[94leetch]

Larry Brooks at the 13:05 mark of that podcast: "There is an air of victimhood in that locker room that I just don't get at all". He also makes reference to there being an "air of grievance" in the locker room and characterized the players as being like "mites" - implying they are being childlike/immature, and not conducting themselves like mature adults and professionals.

Neither him nor Boyle pulled punches.
Dan was especially tough on KK.

 

[kovazub94]

Yeah, on his podcast this morning he mentioned he had some time left over and wanted to use it before it expired. I’ll give him the benefit of doubt but the timing is funny to say the least.

The curious part is if you’re a reporter who prioritizes this to a good extent why would you take paternity leave while this circus is happening?

 

[Irishguy42]

Pretty good article from Vince. Dolan has got to go. Sather was saving this franchise.

 

[McRanger92]

Pretty good article from Vince. Dolan has got to go. Sather was saving this franchise.

Cmon now. Vince has no real sources and aired out the team's dirty laundry before going on PTO. The organization wrote a memo about inappropriate work relationships and we're supposed to think that's a sign of a poor culture? (Not to mention its what they should be doing after they've had to pay out settlements for it in the past)

Plus Kreider being mentioned by name as a guy who is pissed off by everything. I'm not happy with #20 right now, but Vince telling us CK's alleged personal feelings based on "anonymous sources" is worse than Drury shopping him in trade rumors. Kreider could also help himself by actually facing the media and fans instead of more cliches.

The article was the work of a hack writer. Just like the Russini/Jets Athletic hit piece that has already been debunked. It needs to be called out, even if im mad at the team right now.

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

This team went from Eastern confernce finals to everyone sucking....figure it out.

First time we lucked into bad goalies, and Crosby got injured. Second time we got the Caps, who weren't very good. Both times we got Carolina, who somehow we can beat. Both times we looked awful in the Conference Finals ... it appeared we were over our heads.

 

[will1066]

There's a great article today about Manchester City collapsing. They've won 1 of their last 11 matches. I watched their come from ahead loss to Man Utd last week. The things affecting City sound eerily similar to what's happening here.

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

For so many years, we've been focused on this notion that there are no leaders worthy of being a captain amongst the players. We've also traded away our last 3 captains. We've fired 3 coaches in 5 years. We fired the GM and Team President. We have a GM who has apparently gotten rid of a lot of employees for various reasons in recent years.

It all strikes to me as an organization that's being run with too much micromanaging where people don't feel comfortable stepping forward and being leaders because then they are too micromanaged and undercut. I get the sense that it's not even Drury. But perhaps Drury's approach is much like Dolan's.

This is purely my speculation. So who knows. But the organization seems to be run out of fear not vision.

I am also a Dodgers fan (3rd generation), and just having that comparison in regards to how the two orgs are run are night and day. It's clear that the Dodgers org is comfortable with letting Andrew Friedman and the baseball people run the organization from top to bottom and implement a legit system with a philosophy that keeps producing talent year after year and allows them to be competitive which then puts them in a financial place to make big moves. It's a far far cry from the way the Rangers are run and it's becoming harder and harder to justify wasting time following this organization. The team needs to be sold. or Dolan needs to back away. And Drury needs to go. Success in the pro sports requires putting smart people in places where they have autonomy and longevity. Everything else is the cat chasing its tail.

Success in the pro sports requires putting smart people in places where they have autonomy and longevity.

Great comment, thanks. NYR is not run right. It seems like it is designed to trick the fans into thinking the team is championship quality without actually doing to work to make it so.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

Chris Drury running this org like he's in charge of the Stasi doesn't surprise me at all, considering the communications I've had sent my way from Rangers PR since he took over

Employees being reprimanded for interacting with players, those players being instructed they're not allowed to interact with fans "outside the designated areas" (whatever that means), reporters being told to keep certain things quiet that happens in practice...

You couldn't pay me enough to accept a job at MSG. What a terrible, toxic environment that must be.

Do you feel this is a directive from Drury or is this more of a Dolan thing.

I’ve been getting the feeling that Drury is just a puppet or extension of Dolan.