Do Erik Karlsson and Sergei Bobrovsky make the Hall of Fame?

[Gil Gunderson]

Probably both. Bobrovsky might wait a while but I don't see how you keep 2 Vezina trophies out of the HOF.

 

[majormajor]

Probably both. Bobrovsky might wait a while but I don't see how you keep 2 Vezina trophies out of the HOF.

I think Bob should be in but he played his best seasons out of the limelight in Columbus. He was ignored even when he was playing like the best player in the league.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Probably both. Bobrovsky might wait a while but I don't see how you keep 2 Vezina trophies out of the HOF.

Well they've kept 2 Vezinas and a Smythe out so far

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Well they've kept 2 Vezinas and a Smythe out so far

Forgot about Thomas. He was only a starting goalie for like 4 total seasons, strange career.

 

[Video Nasty]

Obviously, Bob’s inconsistency and his playoff performances are killing him, but 2 Vezinas and potentially 5-7 seasons to add to the counting stats are going to make him hard to ignore by the end.

If he adds another random Vezina, a Cup somehow or at least a significant deep run, and clears the favorite team counting stat 500+ wins, he’s a shoe in.

Of course, it’s all about perception. As inconsistent as he’s been, he has still been better as an individual than someone like Fleury, who is an undeserving stone cold lock for his team based accomplishments.

 

[JaegerDice]

Karlsson is either the best or 2nd best (Keith) dman of his era. He’ll get in.

Bob is interesting because despite the two Vezinas, Im not sure he’s ever been considered the best at his position in his era. Most would put Lundqvist, Price, Rask, even Quick ahead of him. He’s an edge-case IMO.

 

[Boreal01]

Just Karlsson

I'd only expect Bobrovsky to get inducted if/when Thomas is inducted

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

*Erik Karlsson has no chance of making the HOF*-Hfboard nerd

 

[Video Nasty]

Karlsson is easily in.

Bob shouldn't sniff the HOF but he probably will get it because he played enough games around the 2 Vezinas. It's laughable that 2 good years surrounded by garbage and being historically bad in the playoffs gets him in. Especially since the only reason Tim Thomas isnt in is because he "didn't play long enough"

I think "2 good years surrounded by garbage" is simply an untrue comment and your bias for the Bruins just rolls across the screen due to it. His Vezina wins were two excellent years first off.

After winning the 2012-2013 Vezina, Bob followed up in 2013-2014 with:

Among starters who had at least the 58 GP he had, he was 5th in SV%, 7th in GAA, 8th in GPS, was in a big tie in shutouts behind only Rask, Price, and Quick, 4th in Quality Starts %, and 5th in GSAA.

That doesn't strike me as garbage.

After winning the 2016-2017 Vezina, Bob followed up in 2017-2018 with:

Among starters who had at least the 65 GP he had, he was 2nd in SV%, 2nd in GAA, 3rd in GPS, 3rd in shutouts, 2nd in QS%, and 2nd in GSAA.

If you think I'm cherry picking because I'm giving more credit to a netminder playing more games than most, feel free to drop his placements in 2017-2018. It's still a very good year.

That doesn't strike me as garbage.

Looking at the regular season, Bob followed up each Vezina win with pretty good to even excellent years the following seasons. That alone makes the claim that his "2 good years are surrounded by garbage" ring false.

He has of course been generally bad in the playoffs. There's no argument there, other than the 2019 playoffs being the lone exception, when he (playing on a #8 seed team) stonewalled the 62 win/325 goals scored/#1 Lightning in a 4 game sweep where he let in just 8 goals on 117 shots. Can you really say he was historically bad in the following round against your #2-#3 across the NHL Bruins who went on to lose the Cup in 7? He played well, but Rask was better. 11 goals of support over 6 games leaves slim room for error. A couple of good series does not make a postseason career, but I just wanted to dig up some kernels of positive play.

Personally, Thomas does deserve enshrinement. He shined very bright for a short time and did more in a handful of seasons than many can hope for in 20 seasons. He shouldn't need a career ending injury or death at a young age to make his story more juicy to these voters.

But bitterness that your hometown player is getting the shaft shouldn't cause you to tear down another interesting case in Bob.

 

[HFpapi]

Why is EK even being debated? How young are you guys/how short are your memories?

EK was doing the same kind of things we all lost our mind about Makar doing last year, if fact even better (and I couldn't be higher on Makar).

4th in league scoring, led the league in assists, dragged a pretty average Sens team to the ECF, tilted the ice completely with his skating and puck moving. 2x Norris, 4x top 2. He's 100% in already no debate needed.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Karlsson a lock, Bob could be too with another Vezina or a Cup or a Smythe

 

[Guttersniped]

I think Bob should be in but he played his best seasons out of the limelight in Columbus. He was ignored even when he was playing like the best player in the league.

Yeah, it’s simply hard for goalies to get in. In comparison forwards with a little hardware, particularly from popular teams, seem to jog into the Hall on the other hand.

Bob can change the narrative with a strong showing in either Vezina voting or a playoff run but his ridiculous contract plus his godawful 1st season in Florida was a big blow to his rep.

EK is first ballot.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

The question is ‘’will they make the HoF’’. Trophies and trophy voting are pretty much part of the equation and deserve to be brought up in this thread.

Not really and a nice example in this topic. People refer to Vezina trophies while Bobrovsky has been squat in the playoffs in his entire career. All this nonsense about trophies this and that. Laughable.

 

[Weztex]

Not really and a nice example in this topic. People refer to Vezina trophies while Bobrovsky has been squat in the playoffs in his entire career. All this nonsense about trophies this and that. Laughable.

You seem to have missed the part where about 90% of the voters in this poll don't think that Bobrovsky is a Hall of Famer DESPITE having won 2 Vezinas. It clearly shows that the people here are able to put things in context instead of simply counting trophies. You are calling laughable something that is not even occurring in this thread.

 

[FrankSidebottom]

Karlsson is a lock and I wish Bob had more respect for his career, but he’s probably a borderline guy due to voters’ perception

 

[Frolov 6'3]

You seem to have missed the part where about 90% of the voters in this poll don't think that Bobrovsky is a Hall of Famer DESPITE having won 2 Vezinas. It clearly shows that the people here are able to put things in context instead of simply counting trophies. You are calling laughable something that is not even occurring in this thread.

You seem to miss the fact that my first response (and person who quoted me) was already at the beginning of this topic.

Before people even were responding but Bobrovsky is not the only example either.

 

[Weztex]

You seem to miss the fact that my first response (and person who quoted me) was already at the beginning of this topic.

Before people even were responding but Bobrovsky is not the only example either.

I'm the one who quoted you. And yes, I've misread the first sentence of your reply. Thought you said this thread was a good example. Sorry for that.

That said I still think most die hard fans are, for the most part, able to go beyond simple trophy counting. And in the end, being the best at your position any given year shouldn't be discarded.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Not really and a nice example in this topic. People refer to Vezina trophies while Bobrovsky has been squat in the playoffs in his entire career. All this nonsense about trophies this and that. Laughable.

I trust using actual evidence than what ever garbage you base a player to make it to the hall.

I’m sure you’re the type who values intangibles and hitz as factors to get into the hall.

 

[AvroArrow]

Neither, I wouldn't be opposed to Karlsson making it but Bobrovsky is a hell no.

 

[Rengorlex]

Not really and a nice example in this topic. People refer to Vezina trophies while Bobrovsky has been squat in the playoffs in his entire career. All this nonsense about trophies this and that. Laughable.

Trophies have weight in who makes the HoF and who doesn't whether you like it or not.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

neither

 

[Frolov 6'3]

I trust using actual evidence than what ever garbage you base a player to make it to the hall.

I’m sure you’re the type who values intangibles and hitz as factors to get into the hall.

This is amazing. You just know what kind of typo i am.

Trophies have weight in who makes the HoF and who doesn't whether you like it or not.

No kidding chief.

The Art Ross yes. That’s evidence.
The rest is just utter nonsense.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

This is amazing. You just know what kind of typo i am.


No kidding chief.

The Art Ross yes. That’s evidence.
The rest is just utter nonsense.

Since you think you know better, how does one make the hall of fame without individual accolades?

 

[Painful Quandary]

Karlsson is a lock. Bob should be, but it seems harder for goalies to get into the HHOF.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Bobrovsky? If he makes it then for sure Mike Smith makes it too.