Do Avs still trade Rantanen if they know he ends up in Dallas?

[Beukeboom Fan]

Original trade had to be tough even with MR playing in the Eastern Conference. To have him end up (apparently long term) on a divisional rival is a real crotch punch.

With hindsight do the Avs just pay up for MR?

 

[David Suzuki]

probably not?

 

[Chiarelli]

I think you could ask the opposite question as well - does Mikko sign with the Avs if he knows he ends up in Dallas. He probably would have imo.

Avs are a much more balanced team today than they were 2 months ago. They look ready to contend again. Not sure they could accomplish this without trading him. I’ll say yes, they do the trade. Dallas doesn’t scare the Avs.

The team that baffles me with their decisions in all of this is Carolina.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Still glad we traded him

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Same thing happened to Martin Jones long ago.

 

[tucker3434]

I still feel the same way. Love him at $9m. Not so much at $12. I'm not entirely convinced he'll be a 100 point guy without MacKinnon and Makar and I think it'll create some issues on this next deal.

 

[Breakers]

They are talking about Rantanen driving this negotiation

His agent Andy Scott finally sat him down and said dude I negotiated for Draisaitl, he’re the difference between 7-8.

You’re not getting that AAV going to UFA and 7 years
So stick with the $12 range in 8 years and call it day

Backfired on rantanen

 

[Unspecified]

Dallas' and Colorado's rivalry just intensified even more. Im sure the Avs fans will boo Rantanen mercifully.

 

[NVious]

Dallas' and Colorado's rivalry just intensified even more. Im sure the Avs fans will boo Rantanen mercifully.

So like in a kind fashion "BOO YOU SUCK RANTS, but aww you were good for us too so don't forget that either, BOOOOO"

 

[landstuhltaylor]

Avs look like a much better team than they were before the Rantanen trade. Painful to see him on Dallas but it is what it is. Interesting to see how the fit will be there.

 

[Summer Rose]

They'd probably do a lot of things differently if they could see into the future like this, as would every other team.

I think it was the Erik Karlsson trade from Ottawa to San Jose that had conditions attached to it requiring the Sharks to pay an extra draft pick if they went on to trade him back into the east, which is no longer allowed. Don't quote me on the exact details of that, though.

 

[hangman005]

Same thing happened to Martin Jones long ago.

I miss Martin Jones... it was always fun chasing him from the net.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I mean with no extension in place with teh trade, they had to know something like this was a possibility.

Obviously didn't envision him being traded again this season but as a free agent he could have signed anywhere including a rival

 

[LOFIN]

Dallas' and Colorado's rivalry just intensified even more. Im sure the Avs fans will boo Rantanen mercifully.

I would be shocked if he's booed (at least in his first return, he eventually might like every Stars player lol). He did quite a lot of good for the team (including winning a Stanley Cup), and Colorado traded him for a very good return.

 

[dmac7719]

Dallas' and Colorado's rivalry just intensified even more. Im sure the Avs fans will boo Rantanen mercifully.

They won't, he was traded by the Avs

This isn't a Tavares situation where he strung them along, only to go to a different team that people were projecting him for the entire time.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Dallas' and Colorado's rivalry just intensified even more. Im sure the Avs fans will boo Rantanen mercifully.

That'll be interesting. On the one hand dude was instrumental in bringing us a cup.

On the other hand, he dicked around with us on a contract Extension all year just to sign with a big rival for basically the same money we offered him?

I would think most fans would care more about the first part over the 2nd part. But some fans for sure will probably boo him. I know I would.


I actually think even more so that the Avs players will take this more personally. Mack, Cale, Landy... I bet they make a point to finish every check as hard as they can on Mikko moving forward.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

Dallas' and Colorado's rivalry just intensified even more. Im sure the Avs fans will boo Rantanen mercifully.

Seems really silly to me. He had a right to not sign a contract offer he wasn't happy with, and he was traded abruptly. He's also a Cup winner in Colorado. He's done nothing to merit being booed over.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Definitely

Colorado improved and we have no idea if Rantanen works out in DAL

 

[Unspecified]

I would be shocked if he's booed (at least in his first return, he eventually might like every Stars player lol). He did quite a lot of good for the team (including winning a Stanley Cup), and Colorado traded him for a very good return.

I think it would be primarily because he is on Dallas now more so than anything else.

 

[Bjorn Le]

I think you could ask the opposite question as well - does Mikko sign with the Avs if he knows he ends up in Dallas. He probably would have imo.

Avs are a much more balanced team today than they were 2 months ago. They look ready to contend again. Not sure they could accomplish this without trading him. I’ll say yes, they do the trade. Dallas doesn’t scare the Avs.

The team that baffles me with their decisions in all of this is Carolina.

Dallas should and absolutely does scare the Avs. Dallas is their biggest obstacle to another Cup and Dallas just added one of the Avs’ best performers from that last Cup.

 

[Unspecified]

Seems really silly to me. He had a right to not sign a contract offer he wasn't happy with, and he was traded abruptly. He's also a Cup winner in Colorado. He's done nothing to merit being booed over.

He took less to sign with Dallas than he was offered in Colorado, that's gonna rub people raw.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

He took less to sign with Dallas than he was offered in Colorado, that's gonna rub people raw.

How much of that could be him realizing his value post-MacKinnon was shrinking and he decided to cut his losses?

But I get it, people will ignore nuance when it's convenient for them.

 

[LOFIN]

I think it would be primarily because he is on Dallas now more so than anything else.

Yeah sure, eventually it will get there. But he should get a huge cheer when he returns to Colorado in little over a week.

 

[Chiarelli]

Dallas should and absolutely does scare the Avs. Dallas is their biggest obstacle to another Cup and Dallas just added one of the Avs’ best performers from that last Cup.

Dallas thinks they’re getting MacKinnon version of Rantanen, when in reality they’re getting the Aho version, possibly a worse version. Dallas’ best player might not be ready for playoffs and they may have just blew up their salary structure. He will help on the power play, for sure tho.

 

[BKarchitect]

Control what you can control.

They make the trade again every day of the week.

If Dallas doesn't get Mikko, who says they don't try to big game hunt elsewhere or improve in some other fashion.

Silly question, IMO.