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Vancouver was out of it this time last year… and made the correct move in NOT waiting until the off-season, and actually finished 3 points below the Sens at the end of the season….. and look where they are now.


See video above


That Canucks team had made the playoffs with a deep run and have a goalie who made the All Star game. Not comparing the same things.

Staois took over and has to fix the entire foundation and roof - Tochet took over and just needs a kitchen and bathroom Reno
 
Never argued in support of either EM or PD….. I saw the challenges to operating a NHL in a small Canadian Market,mand understood why some of the hard choice were made…. Called balls and strikes.

when haters were screaming for EM to sell the team, as if anything they could do would change his mind? I would point out his public statements that he would not sell the franchise, and was going to keep it in family (pass on) whenever he passed away…and that is exactly what happened…. That was NOT protecting EM, it was pointing out his public statements…. But go ahead an spin whatever way you want, I don’t expect you to be able to wrap your head around it.


To say that Martin is instilling the correct game plan is ridiculous ….. he is doing the exact same thing DJS was doing, and that was, and still is, not holding the players accountable…… the team, under Martin is failing and is worse shape than when under DJS… if anyone ever thought that was even remotely possible!

So go ahead and defend J Martins’ .307 P%, all you want…. He need to start showing results on the score board, and hold players accountable that need to be….. if he does not, I suspect you and other Martin apologists will find something to say things are getting better……. beating an AHL team with seconds to go in the game is not something to point to as progress.
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Vancouver did not wait until the offseason… they took care of business last January and now sit 2nd overall a year later.


Staios has proven nothing so far, so am waiting for something more than getting rid of the obvious ( PD DJS)… he needs t address the coaching position asap, and not wait until some mystery candidate may or may not become available in the off season… he needs to see who is available now and decide if the bird in the hand, is worth the two in the bush (in the offseason)….. he also needs to make at least one big move at or before the trade deadline….. tinkering around is getting nowhere.
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Vancouver was out of it this time last year… and made the correct move in NOT waiting until the off-season, and actually finished 3 points below the Sens at the end of the season….. and look where they are now.


See video above

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I find it interesting they are keeping a ton of pressure on the players and calling the entire group and individuals out in the media. One important element to the culture that’s happening now is they are taking away the power the players had under Dorion and returning it to the front office. Brady isn’t going to get the coach he wants, Chychryn is getting traded, Martin is keeping the players under the microscope.



The players were on a bottom NHL team and it was a backyard BBQ atmosphere everyday at Sens practice. It’s good the players aren’t happy - shows they have to be responsible to commenting other then their own happiness
 
Dorion was never a GM before he became a rookie GM, in Ottawa.

Staois has never been a GM in the NHL until a couple of weeks ago…so it is accurate to describe him as a rookie GM, who has not built up the relationships with other GMs in the NHL that a veteran GM would already have.

Every Coach has their system, and their way to, so whomever is the New Head Coach is NOT going to use J Martins’ system, they will implement their own system….. sure maybe a few good habits could be learnt….. but show me one example of a good habit now, after J Martin took over….there are none…. Get the new head coach in now….. follow the Vancouver model, you know, the team that skipped bringing in and interim coach a year ago, and skipped an in season training program…. And are now sitting 2nd over all.



And… if you watch SC with Jay Onrait, from this morning… he and Craig Button agree that Ottawa should bring in their new Head Coach today, just like Vancouver did a year ago…. Button suggests Roy.
Craig Button also called Staios as GM.

I wonder if that guy is way more connected to Staios than we think.. and so, maybe; Roy is not just a guess on his part.

we will see in 2-3 weeks.
 
The first paragraph is a flat out lie. There's so much content to say otherwise.

Let's address the bolded. Because now we know you are very lost.

Martin says to the media, 'players need to hold the defenisve blue line. More back pressure, being safer with the puck in the danger zones'. Martin days 'players have to accept and try to win games 2-1'.

Do you think he's making it up?

These habits and systems are hard to instill in players that are used to playing a certain way. You just simply do not have the ability to notice or understand it. Or you are trying to push your agenda. It's not about being an apologist it's about understanding the basics in hockey. Everything Martin has said is true. The players aren't all pulling on the rope the same way and are not executing.


Incredible level of dishonesty on his part.

Flat out liar.

Another example is Martin specifically calling out the effort guys on the ice for the fourth goal against Colorado.
 
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I mean, it's not me making up the 'goalie graveyard' in Ottawa theme. There are issues with team play that are impacting our goalies. I don't think I'm stretching things here.
It’s an argument to have.

But forsberg has played well here. Gus played well. Then bad. Then very good for the wild. And this year not so good.

Talbot didn’t “turn things around” with the kings. Remember his amazing December here? Or January? He hasn’t been good of late with the kings.

Korpisalo has ALWAYS been inconsistent at best. Terrible at worst. He’s continues that exact trend here.
 
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Craig Button also called Staios as GM.

I wonder if that guy is way more connected to Staios than we think.. and so, maybe; Roy is not just a guess on his part.

we will see in 2-3 weeks.
I hope its Roy personally but I dont blame Staios for taking the approach he has either. He needs to get to know the personality of the players, what type of people they are and what type of players they are to pick the right coach for this team. Not every coach is a good fit, it has to be the right person for this group. Staios also needs to identify who needs to be moved on from and who they should commit to. That was probably a very hard task under DJ smith as its quite obvious the players were not being held accountable. Until that happens you dont know who is commited to winning and being a professional who is not.

Its a process, a shitty process for us fans to go through but its really just a blip in comparison to the trash we have seen for 7 years and the 475 + games we had to endure under Dorion and Smith.
 
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I hope its Roy personally but I dont blame Staios for taking the approach he has either. He needs to get to know the personality of the players, what type of people they are and what type of players they are to pick the right coach for this team. Not every coach is a good fit, it has to be the right person for this group. Staios also needs to identify who needs to be moved on from and who they should commit to. That was probably a very hard task under DJ smith as its quite obvious the players were not being held accountable. Until that happens you dont know who is commited to winning and being a professional who is not.

Its a process, a shitty process for us fans to go through but its really just a blip in comparison to the trash we have seen for 7 years and the 475 + games we had to endure under Dorion and Smith.
yup...but no one says he hires him tomorrow.

But they will play game 40 tonight.. at 3 games a week.. you can wait a further 5 weeks. Bring him in in late Feb/early March. He still has 27/28 games and 2 months with the team.

And ditto for some other coaching option.

I am just fascinated by Button.. someone is feeding him info..
 
yup...but no one says he hires him tomorrow.

But they will play game 40 tonight.. at 3 games a week.. you can wait a further 5 weeks. Bring him in in late Feb/early March. He still has 27/28 games and 2 months with the team.

And ditto for some other coaching option.

I am just fascinated by Button.. someone is feeding him info..
I am absolutely fine with waiting until the offseason. I dont know why they have to do anything right now it hasnt been long at all. Martin is instilling structure and accountability its obvious you can tell by his comments and the fact the players are clearly thinking too much when they are on the ice. The process is going to take some time. Doing a proper interview process is important. They cant get this wrong.
 
Hamonic scratched. But JBD coming in. I feel like we need to see guenette.

I am absolutely fine with waiting until the offseason. I dont know why they have to do anything right now it hasnt been long at all. The process is going to take some time. Doing a proper interview process is important. They cant get this wrong.
Part of me says yeah off season. But another part of me says. Is camp enough time? Why not get him in now, get captain the f*** out and Martin assistan coach.

I don’t know.
 
Hamonic scratched. But JBD coming in. I feel like we need to see guenette.


Part of me says yeah off season. But another part of me says. Is camp enough time? Why not get him in now, get captain the f*** out and Martin assistan coach.

I don’t know.
I would prefer the new coach have 20 games of this season, similar to what Tocchet had to assess and get ready for camp. Personally, and I don't know how other teams are around the league, but I find there are too many coaches on the bench. Why so many? 4?
 
That Canucks team had made the playoffs with a deep run and have a goalie who made the All Star game. Not comparing the same things.

Staois took over and has to fix the entire foundation and roof - Tochet took over and just needs a kitchen and bathroom Reno
Are you kidding? The Canucks did NOT make the playoffs last season, they finished well below the Wildcard teams.

they finished 3 points behind the Senators in the over all standings.

get your facts straight

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The Canucks are one example. Are there even any others people can point to that worked out similarly?

We don't even know the answer of if it impacted the results. For all we know, they may have done just as well this year without the 20 game or whatever run last year.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.
 
I don't know when the best time is, but I do hope they find the right guy ultimately. That in my mind is most important.

The other thing I'm really hoping for is that Staois has a really good strategy to emerge from this mess. I have no reason to think he doesn't, but he needs a really good plan. The focus needs to long term with an emphasis on strategic moves that have long term benefits versus going for flashy, shiny objects that fizzle quickly. Many years of Senator suckitude can make you feel jaded & worried.

We need to get maximum assets from players that are moved, and a good draft. Those would be good first steps in moving this forward in a good direction.

On another note, Pinto should be back soon.
 
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Mike Johnson on the Ryan Rishaug Podcast with Pierre LeBrun

"I've heard a lot of people suggest that Ottawa somehow needs a full time coach to make a difference. That I don't understand. If you think the players are tuning out Jacques Martin because in their mind they know that he won't be here next year, then you have the worst collection of players that you will never win with. That's a huge player problem and I don't believe that to be true. "

LeBrun: "I don't want to oversimplify it but there is not enough Claude Giroux's on the team right now. What I mean is there is an issue there about what being a Pro means. That's why Staios is calling around big time looking for more veteran players to come in and like Giroux be an example of what it takes. People were like, what is Steve Yzerman doing signing Ben Chiorot and David Perron for his young rebuilding Redwings team? I'll tell you why.. because he doesn't believe that the kids should rule the roost. Oilers learned it the hard way, Sabres are still dealing with it, Senators were over valued on what it takes to be a Pro."

Johnston: "It feels like the mix of players is going to have to change" reflecting on contracts handed out and not responding.

Lebrun: reflects on signing young players out of ELC to long term deals presumes that the young player will handle that well and his desire to grow will remain the same, his hunger, his fear... interesting.

 
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Vancouver was out of it this time last year… and made the correct move in NOT waiting until the off-season, and actually finished 3 points below the Sens at the end of the season….. and look where they are now.


See video above

Maybe look at Thatcher Demko: last Year SV percentage of .901 GAA 3.17
This year Save percentage of .919 and a GAA of 2.47
 
The Canucks are one example. Are there even any others people can point to that worked out similarly?

We don't even know the answer of if it impacted the results. For all we know, they may have done just as well this year without the 20 game or whatever run last year.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.
Why are you skinning cats? Leave the cats alone. You fckn bully!
 
Yikes...

I mean, Colorado twice, Vancouver Toronto and Edmonton, and NJD, 6 games against teams that are top 7 in GF/game, so that's part of it but still.
The west games since JM took over have been a gauntlet. Arz was hot until us, then on the road in Colorado that beat us right after. Home for 3 or 4 tough games against NJD, TO, Buffalo & Pitt. Then off to the west again. Seattle won like 7 or 8 in a row by then. Edmonton had won 8 or 9 in a row. Vancouver the 2nd best team in the league. Calgary back in the playoff picture and winning more than losing, definitely a better team currently. Then you return home and beat the team you're supposed to beat, ugly or not, and lose to the team you're supposed to lose to.

Insanely tough schedule since JM took over.
Why are you skinning cats? Leave the cats alone. You fckn bully!
Lol, well I am allergic to them and am definitely a dog person.
 
The west games since JM took over have been a gauntlet. Arz was hot until us, then on the road in Colorado that beat us right after. Home for 3 or 4 tough games against NJD, TO, Buffalo & Pitt. Then off to the west again. Seattle won like 7 or 8 in a row by then. Edmonton had won 8 or 9 in a row. Vancouver the 2nd best team in the league. Calgary back in the playoff picture and winning more than losing, definitely a better team currently. Then you return home and beat the team you're supposed to beat, ugly or not, and lose to the team you're supposed to lose to.

Insanely tough schedule since JM took over.

Lol, well I am allergic to them and am definitely a dog person.
Don't blame the cats! Lol.
 
Julien was in French radio today. The animator ask him , if he would be open to come back for Ottawa. He said, could be a interesting challenge
 

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