Did the Preds make a mistake hiring Trotz as GM?

[BB88]

1st he made moves to suggest rebuild/retool just as quickly to make moves to compete now and this summer decided to go all in with a flawed roster

I see a team that’s not good enough to compete, not bad enough to draft difference makers so they are pretty well stuck in a no man’s land going nowhere

 

[EpochLink]

Obviously. Guy is a head coach, what qualifications does he have of being a GM anyway? I'm sure he'd have done a fine job for Preds as coach but it's sort of like asking a violinist to play the piano at your concert.

Nashville legend

 

[BB88]

I don't think so, everyone was hailing them as the winners of the off season, he's not to blame that the high end players he signed didn't work out.

No GM can see the future.

That’s why they are paid the big pucks

To build for the future in the offseason

He went all in with a core of 34-35y players, it’s not that difficult to see that they are just at the end of their primes or already out of it

He also hold on to Askarov for too long, if you were clearly going to sign Saros you need to trade Askarov earlier before handcuffing yourself. He was their only elite future asset and undersold it

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

you cant coach and gm can you?

I can't tell if you're making fun of OP saying they can't coach and gm, or if you're asking if it's possible to be both coach and gm.

If it's the latter, it is possible. Bob Murray was our GM and interim head coach for 26 games in 18-19.

 

[stl76]

That’s why they are paid the big pucks

How you gonna edit the post and still leave this funny typo haha

 

[Menzinger]

Too early to say one way or the other.

But it's pretty clear that being an amazing coach doesn't make a guy automatically a fantastic GM. Two very different skillsets

 

[UED]

I don't think so, everyone was hailing them as the winners of the off season, he's not to blame that the high end players he signed didn't work out.

No GM can see the future.

I could've told you that and I absolutely 100% look down on Trotz for thinking otherwise. No one's allowed to think a 34 year old who put up 80 points playing with a 140 point scorer(on the PP, from where HALF his points came) would put up anywhere NEAR that on a starless team. A disreputable thought with no process behind it.

I also could've told you McDonagh was one of his most important players, but ever since tiktok, youtube highlight videos and hockeydb took over the prevailing thought is that if you ain't danglin' you ain't playin'...

 

[archangel2]

Great coach, but so far his GM career has been very questionable.

Fabbro, Askarov and Tomasino all lost for basically nothing significant in return.

Made one of the biggest missteps of the offseason by signing Stamkos to that contract when most people knew his ES play has cratered.

How about the Ekholm trade? The oilers are non playoff team without that trade

 

[Kimota]

We all know they went after him cause he was the best coach in the game and they offered him the GM role to entice him to come.

But at the end of the day, guess what- he's not coaching and he's not really a GM. So it was a dumb move.

Trotz should go behind the bench and maybe gets an advising role as far as hockey op. but name a real GM.

 

[On The Prowl]

They must be regretting the Ekholm trade, he would have really helped them had they just held onto him.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

How about the Ekholm trade? The oilers are non playoff team without that trade

That was made by David Poile. Trotz might have had input but he wasn't yet the GM

 

[Stelmacki]

I certainly like to hope so.

 

[Soundgarden]

How about the Ekholm trade? The oilers are non playoff team without that trade

They must be regretting the Ekholm trade, he would have really helped them had they just held onto him.

Not really, I mean if we were/are going for the rebuild we got a great return for him.

 

[ijuka]

This question permeates throughout the NHL and pro sports generally.

See: Brendan Shanahan was a hockey player. What qualifications does he have to be the President of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

It's what I don't understand, either. The president of hockey ops for an NHL team should have training on leading an organization. Hiring former hockey players for these positions, even though they have absolutely no qualifications for them, has never made sense to me.

Former players becoming coaches is far more sensible, of course.

I don't think so, everyone was hailing them as the winners of the off season, he's not to blame that the high end players he signed didn't work out.

No GM can see the future.

I mean, I'm pretty sure he actually is the one to blame for them.

A random person on HFB giving their gut feeling opinion is one thing, a GM committing a hundred million dollars of real money is something else entirely.