Don't be unreasonably hyperbolic to prove a point. It was exactly 55% that lead to goals against.
He had a much larger role last season and was counted on in more situations. Horcoff wasn't taking all the toughest draws and prime minutes anymore. People need to realize that he is still a young player regardless of how many seasons he has played. There were hiccups along the way, but he is most certainly a better player now than he was at 18. And there is still room for growth. Last season he was 23. I don't think he's shown us his best yet.
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Gagner did do some PKing last season, if you count that
He's been working hard at improving every year so far and had a very good season last year. I am not sure where this questioning of his desire is coming from?
As for the number of times he lost a draw and it ended up in our net, I have no idea. But since he led all Oiler forwards in ice time last year, I'd say more than any other C. But he was also our top scoring C.
He did PKing in previous years as well.
So, I was listening to Spector today and it got me thinking. Do you think Sam Gagner coming into this year has something to prove as a number 1 center or 1 A? I mean, how long has he played center with the Oil? 4yrs? One would think, Sam would of worked extra over the summer to hone in on his faceoff draws with his big ass fat raise wouldnt he? What was Gagner's FO% last year??? I might be wrong but at least 35% winning. Countless times i have watched him over the last few years lose important draws and then his man. Not only did it cost us goals but puck possession. Gagner must have some smart hockey sense to work extra hard at winning draws? Dont you think???
one time Gagner lost a faceoff and my dog ran away
Actually, that's not true. Gagner had the same role that he has always had, getting secondary matchups. The only difference is that instead of Horcoff's line taking on the tough matchups, Nuge's line did.
I'm sure that he will improve in the coming years but it's disheartening that he regressed with faceoffs and pretty much stagnated defensively. I like the strides that he made offensively, played with more confidence last season but until he improves the other facets of his game, the Oilers will never be a viable playoff contender.
80% of all Gagner's stats come out of peoples ass's google itAnother "troll Gagner thread" disguised as a question.
Go figure.
And I love some of the stats being pulled out of people's ass's.
Gagner sure seems to have to earn any credit given more than most players.
I really don't get the negativity at all.
Another "troll Gagner thread" disguised as a question.
Go figure.
And I love some of the stats being pulled out of people's ass's.
Gagner sure seems to have to earn any credit given more than most players.
I really don't get the negativity at all.
The faceoff %age does not bother me much. MacT at one point suggested that about 1 in 40 lost draws result in a goal against. I have no direct evidence to absck this up but if you look at the fact that there are about 50-60 faceoff per game it sounds reasonable. As such if he was to improve from 43% to 50% over the course of an 82 game season you might prevent 2 additional goals. H would be far better off working on his over all defensive game.