GrumpyKoala
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Swap their teams and Price has the cups with Roy getting none.
This comment confuses me a lot from someone with lafleur as username.
Swap their teams and Price has the cups with Roy getting none.
What's confusing about it?This comment confuses me a lot from someone with lafleur as username.
He most certainly was dominant from 2011 until 2018. Doesn't mean he didnt have crappy games, like every goalie, but overall he was probably the best goalie in the league. The stats don't lie.no he wasn't "one of the most dominant for 7/ 8 years before that".
2014 ( after Olympic Gold) and 2015 he was lights out. Then he got injured early 2016.
Was inconsistent 2008 - 2013. Losing starters job end of season and play offs in 2010 to Halak.
It was relatively easy considering who he missed facing. In 86 he doesn’t face the Oilers in 93 he doesn’t face the Pens.I think you underestimate Roy clutch performances and overestimate Price ability to rise up to occasions.
Roy did it against a team with 4 HOFers. 3 overtime win in the final.
It's wasn't by any means easyer.
Postseason from 2011 to his retirement he was absolutely awesome. Like you said, not every game and not every series. But almost always.He most certainly was dominant from 2011 until 2018. Doesn't mean he didnt have crappy games, like every goalie, but overall he was probably the best goalie in the league. The stats don't lie.
Tampa had been to the Conference... Blah, blah, blah
Like Roy. Only Patrick was better. All due respect to Carey.He most certainly was dominant from 2011 until 2018. Doesn't mean he didnt have crappy games, like every goalie, but overall he was probably the best goalie in the league. The stats don't lie.
Posts like these always make me laugh, disrespectfully
You don't get it hermano. Did the Habs get special rules Toronto, Winnipeg and Vegas didn't? Why didn't they come out on top and get the Clarence Campbell then? If every other team had the same chances at the start of the regular season with all these rules decided upon at the very start why would anyone's wins be invalid?
Are you still bent outta shape that the Knights took out COL that year(if you are an Avs fan)? I don't get it. The Habs got to the end and faced a powerhouse cap-busting team and got spanked. Heck I would say that MTL's appearance in the Finals was more legitimate than Tampa's cap-circumventing super-team.
Just because the same rules applied to everyone doesn't mean that the Habs didn't benefit the most.
And I'd be fine with putting an asterisk on every team that won a Cup with a playoff roster that is well over the cap. But, while it's difficult to make it work that well, that loophole is/was open to literally every team.
If you take out when a player is good, you mean to say they'd be bad? What a revelation.It’s to illustrate that other players have more than one glowing example on their resume. Laugh away. I do the same when people swoon over Price.
The implication here being that Price only has one good season? Because the person that you're talking to only suggested removing one season.If you take out when a player is good, you mean to say they'd be bad? What a revelation.
Reminds me of that reddit NFL post a while back.. if you regress Mahomes' stats to the mean he'd be an average QB. Quite the analysis, much like yours
Yes and to add to this, when people bemoan how badly a player like this is overpaid on his last contract they never consider how much he may have been underpaid on his earlier contracts. Whether intentional or not the current system is designed so that a player tends to be underpaid early in his career and overpaid at the latter end. Price actually makes a perfect example of this working correctly, as he was badly underpaid his first 5 years and then still underpaid the next. Overall his total career earnings vs contributions to the Montreal Canadians evens up pretty well.Everyone says no as if a contract is evaluated in a vacuum. The money does not magically give you another player if you don't spend it. Price was absolutely worth it because he was Montreal's best player for that time. Sadly he got injured a lot and it shortened his career, but when he was healthy he was absolutely worth it. I really don't understand the "Price is overrated" rhetoric.
That works well, if you are an ownerObviously, the answer is to give all players a base salary and then top up based on the seasons performance at the conclusion of the season.
Yeah, Carey was great but Patrick was better.Like Roy. Only Patrick was better. All due respect to Carey.
Ha! way more applicable to you than me pal. cry moreIf only those bias glasses weren't glued into your face, you'd see reality like everybody else too
No, he's also full of shit there too. But if someone thinks Price isn't good their argument is worthless to begin with.The implication here being that Price only has one good season? Because the person that you're talking to only suggested removing one season.
Hunh? You think there aren't teams that get lucky with the playoffs every year? Criminy in 2019 the Habs had 96pts and didn't make the playoffs, that was like a record. Good teams miss out all the time and some teams that suck squeak in. You whining that the North division had 7 teams? Guess what? Before Vegas and Seattle showed up the divisions were unbalanced as well.
You mention that being over the Cap is within the rules so it's okay but a team that makes the playoffs following the same rules as every other team isn't. Confirmation Bias amigo, read up on it. You hate the Habs and therefore see improprieties whenever they succeed. Relax buddy.
You're personal eye test aside.Roy had the better career. No dispute. More consistent? No. Not in the playoffs.
Mental toughness? The guy quit in the middle of a game. As soon as the team started to decline he quit. So I dispute that as well. Price may have had his issues off the ice but he had far worse clubs and never left.
Roy was a great goalie. An all time great. But he's really overrated. He's not Hasek.
Roy will always be regarded as being one of the best ever and Price won't rank as high. That is beyond dispute and I won't say otherwise. But swap the teams and Price is a multi cup winning goalie and Roy has none. I'd say he was the better goalie, Roy had the better career.
Sure, but please don't do thatIt's a compliment to Carey just to try compare the two.
But in Price's case, it makes him look SUBSTANTIALLY worse. It'd drop him from that Lundqvist tier to the Vokoun tier.No, he's also full of shit there too. But if someone thinks Price isn't good their argument is worthless to begin with.
But I just hate that argument in particular.. if you take away a players best season they look worse. Like yea, no shit. And if my aunt had balls...