Rumor: Dhaliwal- Keeps hearing Habs want Boeser. Claims that Habs have wanted Boeser for a long time, previously offered Romanov.

[danyhabsfan]

its a funny thing pace and actual points at the end of a season. Its kinda like winning the stanley cup in EA sports or the real thing.

You do know that 2 of those 3 seasons were COVID shortened seasons? He didn't miss a game in 2020-2021 and missed 12 games in 2019-2020.

So he missed only 23 games in 3 seasons.

 

[JohnHodgson]

You do know that 2 of those 3 seasons were COVID shortened seasons? He didn't miss a game in 2020-2021 and missed 12 games in 2019-2020.

So he missed only 23 games in 3 seasons.

Shhh it's pretty obvious that guy is just in a league of his own.

 

[lawrence]

I’m actually a fan of both teams and there simply isn’t a place on the Montreal roster for Boeser when he’s making $6.65

That’s totally fine at this point it’s more about questioning the source which quoted from dhaliwal. He’s hearing this and he won’t restate an old rumour. Also 5.5 million for a guy who just hits is also pricey as hell. If we wanted something like just sign Dakota Joshua. Also where the hell did this Anderson for Brock comes from? Lol

 

[JohnHodgson]

That’s totally fine at this point it’s more about questioning the source which quoted from dhaliwal. He’s hearing this and he won’t restate an old rumour. Also 5.5 million for a guy who just hits is also pricey as hell. If we wanted something like just sign Dakota Joshua. Also where the hell did this Anderson for Brock comes from? Lol

No idea

Anderson is one of the worst contracts in the league so I'm guessing they want to dump him off?

 

[GaryPoppins]

In typical Habs fans fashion:

“WhY tRaDe FoR hIm WhEn He WiLl SiGn HeRe FoR fReE iN tWo YeArS!”

 

[lawrence]

In typical Habs fans fashion:

“WhY tRaDe FoR hIm WhEn He WiLl SiGn HeRe FoR fReE iN tWo YeArS!”

Just like hearing 8 different fan bases say they will just sign horvat for free in July.

 

[Smif]

Not a good fit for the Habs, they should be selling. Is it possible to get him without a 2023 1st? That'd be crazy stupid for Montreal.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

As a Canucks fan, at this point, i'd swap Boeser for Anderson. Worst case, i think Anderson is probably easier to flip at the deadline. But either way, a big, fast, physical player is a lot more useful to the Canucks than a soft perimeter scorer. That's not to say Boeser is useless, or wouldn't be a good fit somewhere else that needs what he brings, as an infusion of skill. The Canucks just already have a bunch of skill guys, and a lot of them happen to be quite small.


So much of the Canucks situation is contingent on what happens with Horvat though. Until they have that figured out, it's a sort of sword hanging over their heads. What happens there is going to really change what does/does not make sense for the rest of the team composition and direction.

Flipped by the deadline? He has 4 more years left.

 

[kcunac]

What would the Habs have to add to a Boeser for Hoffman, or a Boeser for Drouin?

Boeser for Hoffman and ?
Boeser for Drouin and ?

I think what Van would be asking for is MTL’s 2023 2nd. And maybe it would be palatable since you also have Florida’s first. Probably MTL would try to sell Col’s 2024 2nd instead.

I understand that MTL is up against The cap, so you might be able to do Drouin + Col’s 2024 2nd on the basis that Van might be able to get an asset for Drouin at this year’s TDL. More likely, MTL just waits and flips Drouin (and/or Hoffman) in their own deals at the TDL. While Hoffman could have some value to a contender (with retention) he doesn’t have any to Van who is trying to ditch salary. Unless of course Hoffman goes on a hot streak here.

 

[Habs Halifax]

In typical Habs fans fashion:

“WhY tRaDe FoR hIm WhEn He WiLl SiGn HeRe FoR fReE iN tWo YeArS!”

What I see is typical Habs bashing. Fair is fair and it's a two way street. This type of narrative is something I wish would go away but that's wishful thinking

I have more genuine conversations when I visit other cities to watch games and have chats with other fans. Face/face conversations vs typing on the internet chances people apparently

 

[Captain Mountain]

No idea

Anderson is one of the worst contracts in the league so I'm guessing they want to dump him off?

If we're going by rumours, actual insiders like Seravalli, LeBrun and Dreger have been consistently reported that teams have been inquiring on Anderson's availability and Montreal has not had him available.

In typical Habs fans fashion:

“WhY tRaDe FoR hIm WhEn He WiLl SiGn HeRe FoR fReE iN tWo YeArS!”

Most Habs fans don't even want him.

 

[Habs Halifax]

That’s totally fine at this point it’s more about questioning the source which quoted from dhaliwal. He’s hearing this and he won’t restate an old rumour. Also 5.5 million for a guy who just hits is also pricey as hell. If we wanted something like just sign Dakota Joshua. Also where the hell did this Anderson for Brock comes from? Lol

What do you think the going rate is for a 20+ goal threat who can hit and skate and has size? $3M or less? I think not. But wait, he only puts up 30-40 pts. Anderson is not a perfect power forward like Kane or Krieder is but he's also not paid like them either. I think he's being devalued well below a $4M player because he is at $5.5M.

Dakota Joshua vs Anderson? If you have to exaggerate to prove your point, you don't have a good point

If Anderson is ever traded, the fans on his new team will change their tune. Narrative in how they evaluate him will be different. Reality

Some Middle 6F are going to make $4M - $6M range and that's what Anderson is. Fans trying to draw a line from top 6 vs bottom 6 are not considering there is a shit load of middle 6F types in the NHL. This is not a $8M+ or $3M less payout structure.

 

[Habs Halifax]

If we're going by rumours, actual insiders like Seravalli, LeBrun and Dreger have been consistently reported that teams have been inquiring on Anderson's availability and Montreal has not had him available.



Most Habs fans don't even want him.

Most Habs fans don't want who? Anderson? If that's who you are talking about, that's not true. Or are you talking about Boeser?

 

[angry pirate]

Doesn't Dvorak for Boeser make the most sense if we are talking Montreal?

Vancouver clears 2M+ in cap albeit for an extra year but gets a Center back that they are going to need anyway with Horvat possibly leaving?
Montreal gets an RW that may have some upside that they can evaluate internally for the next couple of years.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Doesn't Dvorak for Boeser make the most sense if we are talking Montreal?

Vancouver clears 2M+ in cap albeit for an extra year but gets a Center back that they are going to need anyway with Horvat possibly leaving?
Montreal gets an RW that may have some upside that they can evaluate internally for the next couple of years.

Good idea, but we need centers too. Don't think we can lose both Monahan and Dvorak at one go without getting a center back ourselves.

Plus, we have 5 million wingers right now, as it is.

There might have been interest in Boeser at one time, but that interest went out the door with Bergevin.

 

[Ezpz]

Doesn't Dvorak for Boeser make the most sense if we are talking Montreal?

Vancouver clears 2M+ in cap albeit for an extra year but gets a Center back that they are going to need anyway with Horvat possibly leaving?
Montreal gets an RW that may have some upside that they can evaluate internally for the next couple of years.

I think Vancouver needs to add a little since Dvo still has value as a trade chip and there's no question marks about his game. Also just for the cap differential.

 

[Qwijibo]

Doesn't Dvorak for Boeser make the most sense if we are talking Montreal?

Vancouver clears 2M+ in cap albeit for an extra year but gets a Center back that they are going to need anyway with Horvat possibly leaving?
Montreal gets an RW that may have some upside that they can evaluate internally for the next couple of years.

Montreal has a greater need for a centre than a right wing considering they have Caufield, Anderson, Gallagher, Dadanov and Armia as right wings right now. Boeser isn’t a player that fits for Montreal

 

[angry pirate]

Good idea, but we need centers too. Don't think we can lose both Monahan and Dvorak at one go without getting a center back ourselves.

Plus, we have 5 million wingers right now, as it is.

There might have been interest in Boeser at one time, but that interest went out the door with Bergevin.

I think Dach gets an extended look at center this season so that both he and the team can prepare during the offseason for where he'll play more permanently next year. (Suzuki - Dach - Evans - Pitlick ) is a good enough group for the latter half of the season given our expectations.

Montreal has a greater need for a centre than a right wing considering they have Caufield, Anderson, Gallagher, Dadanov and Armia as right wings right now. Boeser isn’t a player that fits for Montreal

Habs can make due at center in a season that is supposed to be bad anyways. Gallagher/Dadanov/Armia are 4th liners or scratch bait. Taking a chance that Boeser can go back to scoring 25ish(+/- a couple) goals a season is worth 2M in cap space and Dvorak. If it doesn't work out than we move on in 2 years and call it a day. Chances are Dvorak isn't here for the Habs competitive seasons anyways.

 

[Qwijibo]

I think Dach gets an extended look at center this season so that both he and the team can prepare during the offseason for where he'll play more permanently next year. (Suzuki - Dach - Evans - Pitlick ) is a good enough group for the latter half of the season given our expectations.



Habs can make due at center in a season that is supposed to be bad anyways. Gallagher/Dadanov/Armia are 4th liners or scratch bait. Taking a chance that Boeser can go back to scoring 25ish(+/- a couple) goals a season is worth 2M in cap space and Dvorak. If it doesn't work out than we move on in 2 years and call it a day. Chances are Dvorak isn't here for the Habs competitive seasons anyways.

Except all those guys have real and tangible cap hits. Taking on yet another $6.65m right wing who is a cap dump in his own right makes zero sense when C is a far more important need. Also. Boeser is slow as molasses. He can’t skate with the players in Montreal’s system

 

[Captain Mountain]

Doesn't Dvorak for Boeser make the most sense if we are talking Montreal?

Vancouver clears 2M+ in cap albeit for an extra year but gets a Center back that they are going to need anyway with Horvat possibly leaving?
Montreal gets an RW that may have some upside that they can evaluate internally for the next couple of years.

Its about the only deal that makes sense for Montreal that somewhat matches what insiders are saying Vancouver is looking for.

Insider Trading: Canadian teams' shopping lists | TSN

With the holiday season upon us, the TSN Hockey Insiders look ahead to TradeCentre and discuss what some teams are looking to acquire, including who the Canucks would need in a potential Bo Horvat trade, what the Oilers are hoping to buy to bolster their blueline, and how the Maple Leafs are...

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Per Dreger, the Canucks are looking for looking for cap space, a young centerman and a young D-man. Dvorak isn't young, but he's only a year older than Boeser and is also cheaper. Boeser may be able to play with Suzuki and Caufield, which would allow Montreal to move Dach back to center on a more permanent basis.

I doubt its a trade either team would be super excited to make, but I can kind of see it.

 

[LemonSauceD]

There are many players in the league who aren’t the fastest skaters but know where to be to score. Boeser is one of those players. Overpaid, but if someone does acquire Boeser 9/10 they are going to win the trade. He will put up points. Canucks just can’t afford him and will eat shit just to get rid of the $$$ and term.

 

[biturbo19]

Flipped by the deadline? He has 4 more years left.

Josh Anderson is actually the sort of player teams tend to covet when "loading up" at the deadline for a playoff run. Teams gunning up to make a push tend to look to get "tougher" and "harder to play against", more so than "softer" and "more skilled on the perimeter".

Boeser is more...the type of player a retooling team might look at when rejigging their roster in the offseason. Between his salary and his role/style of play...his "market" at the deadline is a bit narrower and more limited.




People act like Anderson's contract is this albatross. The reality is, if he were a UFA today, he'd have multiple suitors bidding themselves into exactly the same sort of deal. They'd be ecstatic if they could get him on a 4-year term instead of the full-term deal over again. Teams pay a premium for what he offers, and that likely won't be changing within the next 4 years.

 

[HuGort]

Anderson more value to playoff team than Canucks. But I doubt Montreal trades him. He's good third liner, pot 20 goals.

 

[ole ole]

Its about the only deal that makes sense for Montreal that somewhat matches what insiders are saying Vancouver is looking for.

Insider Trading: Canadian teams' shopping lists | TSN

With the holiday season upon us, the TSN Hockey Insiders look ahead to TradeCentre and discuss what some teams are looking to acquire, including who the Canucks would need in a potential Bo Horvat trade, what the Oilers are hoping to buy to bolster their blueline, and how the Maple Leafs are...

www.tsn.ca

Per Dreger, the Canucks are looking for looking for cap space, a young centerman and a young D-man. Dvorak isn't young, but he's only a year older than Boeser and is also cheaper. Boeser may be able to play with Suzuki and Caufield, which would allow Montreal to move Dach back to center on a more permanent basis.

I doubt its a trade either team would be super excited to make, but I can kind of see it.

Even if Boeser is better then Dvorak And only 1 yr in age difference. Why would the Habs want to spend that extra cap on Boeser? I don't think either will be around when we are ready to contend. Rather keep the cap space than taking on Boeser . Not a knock against Boeser .

 

[JohnHodgson]

Josh Anderson is actually the sort of player teams tend to covet when "loading up" at the deadline for a playoff run. Teams gunning up to make a push tend to look to get "tougher" and "harder to play against", more so than "softer" and "more skilled on the perimeter".

Boeser is more...the type of player a retooling team might look at when rejigging their roster in the offseason. Between his salary and his role/style of play...his "market" at the deadline is a bit narrower and more limited.




People act like Anderson's contract is this albatross. The reality is, if he were a UFA today, he'd have multiple suitors bidding themselves into exactly the same sort of deal. They'd be ecstatic if they could get him on a 4-year term instead of the full-term deal over again. Teams pay a premium for what he offers, and that likely won't be changing within the next 4 years.

Maybe in NHL 23 - not in the flat cap world.

No true contender would give that contract to a declining third line winger.