Rumor: Dhaliwal- Keeps hearing Habs want Boeser. Claims that Habs have wanted Boeser for a long time, previously offered Romanov.

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You have to put some perspective here. Boeser had 55 in 62, 56 in 69, 45 in 57 and 49 in 56 before last year bad season (46 in 71).

Injuries IS the problem, not the offence. Those seasons were on pace for 73, 67, 65 and 72 points over 82 games. He's on pace for 60 pts right now, which could mean that last year was just a fluke/bad year.

I think he's the kind of project that Hughes/Gorton would 100% take a shot at if they can swap a bad contract for him and the attached cost isn't too high. They seem to be unable to find a buyer for all those forwards, so this might become the new plan?

If they think he can thrive under MSL coaching style, he's only signed for 2 seasons (after this one) and might quickly become a very nice trading chip at next year deadline or the year after (with retention), depending on where the team is in the rebuild AND if he actually increased his value.
I look at what could have been also but in the end he still has not reached 60 points whether due to injury or something else. What's the point of trading for a guy that regularly misses 15-20 games a year or more? And is getting paid more than any forward in Montreal not named Suzuki.
 
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Is he? really? $6.65M a year? Just had his worst season ever last year and has never surpassed 56 points so from an offence perspective alone he does not come close.
how much do you think 50 points players are worth in today's NHL? especially considering his PPG. call me crazy but i do think he can still bring plenty to the table. I think he's just in a toxic situation right now in Vancouver. while i don't really see where he'd fit on the habs right now, i still see him as a strong asset and I'm sure whoever ends up acquiring him won't regret it
 

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NHL.com reporting that Boeser is a late scratch after taking warmups in Calgary tonight.
 

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Josh Anderson + Logan Mailloux for Brock Boeser + Tucker Poolman?
 

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I look at what could have been also but in the end he still has not reached 60 points whether due to injury or something else. What's the point of trading for a guy that regularly misses 15-20 games a year or more? And is getting paid more than any forward in Montreal not named Suzuki.
I'm just saying that if anything, offense isn't the reason why he shouldn't deserve this much money. His injury issue and his defensive play (which doesn't seem good at all) should be.

This amount of money may be a bit high, but the deal isn't too long (he only have 2 more years after this season), so you can easily turn him into a positive asset on the market as soon as next year with retention.
 

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Boeser and a 2nd for Dadonov. Might take a first though if the cap stays flat for another season. It cost Calgary a 1st to move 1 year of Monahan.
Montreal's interest is purely for the assets that will be attached to a player like Boeser

LMAO.

Are people really that delusional here?

How is Monahan comparable to Boeser in any capacity?

Boeser was/is putting up top six production. Monahan's output was terrible in his last two years in Calgary. Boeser's only 25. Monahan was traded at 28.
 

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I keep Anderson over Boeser

This gotta be satire.

Josh Anderson is one of the worst contracts in the league. Nobody is touching that contract with a ten foot pole. 4 more years at 5.5M for a declining third line winger who already has tons of mileage on his body. He's on pace for 31 points this year. Disgusting contract.... I hate OEL but rather have him at 7.1 than Anderson at 5.5. At least OEL plays 21 minutes a night and plays a top 4 role.
 

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LMAO.

Are people really that delusional here?

How is Monahan comparable to Boeser in any capacity?

Boeser was/is putting up top six production. Monahan's output was terrible in his last two years in Calgary. Boeser's only 25. Monahan was traded at 28.
They’re entirely different situations. That said Montreal has no use for a $6.65m winger who has 4 goals , 6 primary assists and 7 secondary assists.
 

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Rumour from the bubble aside (which has zero relevance to todays team). Boeser makes zero sense for Montreal Montreal has Caufield , Anderson , Gallagher and Armia as right wings signed long term. So unless the deal includes . Gallagher or Armia going the other way I can’t see how they make room for him (both positionally and cap wise )
There's only one top six forward in that grouping of wingers. Caufield can play LW no?

Regardless, Anderson and Gallagher aren't even true top six forward anymore.

I don't see how this impacts anything.... Montreal is like 24th in goals per game. They need help creating offense and Boeser can do that.
 

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This gotta be satire.

Josh Anderson is one of the worst contracts in the league. Nobody is touching that contract with a ten foot pole. 4 more years at 5.5M for a declining third line winger who already has tons of mileage on his body. He's on pace for 31 points this year. Disgusting contract.... I hate OEL but rather have him at 7.1 than Anderson at 5.5. At least OEL plays 21 minutes a night and plays a top 4 role.
Nope. Not satire. I prefer Anderson’s game to Boeser’s. No need to get butthurt over it. You go ahead and keep Boeser.

There's only one top six forward in that grouping of wingers. Caufield can play LW no?

Regardless, Anderson and Gallagher aren't even true top six forward anymore.

I don't see how this impacts anything.... Montreal is like 24th in goals per game. They need help creating offense and Boeser can do that.
Boeser with his blistering 4 goals is going to make a huge difference huh?
 
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They’re entirely different situations. That said Montreal has no use for a $6.65m winger who has 4 goals , 6 primary assists and 7 secondary assists.
I like how that's intended to be a diss, but Boeser's 16 points in 22 games (despite struggling this year), would put him at a 60 point pace.

That would place him THIRD on Montreal behind Caufield and Suzuki. Boeser would probably be the third best offensive player in Montreal the moment he steps foot on the ice.

But yeah, Montreal definitely has no use for 25 year old top six forwards.
 

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Nope. Not satire. I prefer Anderson’s game to Boeser’s. No need to get butthurt over it. You go ahead and keep Boeser.


Boeser with his blistering 4 goals is going to make a huge difference huh?

Yeah no... you gotta be on some powerful drugs to want Anderson over Boeser given their contracts and age. It's clear you don't understand the complexities of the NHL.

I guess Kirby Dach sucks too... 4 goals in 28 games? For a first round pick? Fleeced.

The very definition of a player that makes everyone around him significantly worse

Yeah let's ignore the 324 games prior and focus on the 22 game sample size.

Genius stuff.
 

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I like how that's intended to be a diss, but Boeser's 16 points in 22 games (despite struggling this year), would put him at a 60 point pace.

That would place him THIRD on Montreal behind Caufield and Suzuki. Boeser would probably be the third best offensive player in Montreal the moment he steps foot on the ice.

But yeah, Montreal definitely has no use for 25 year old top six forwards.
Montreal’s game is based on speed. Boeser is a slug. He’s also abysmal defensively. He’s just not a fit. If he’s such a valuable player you should be happy to keep him
 
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LMAO.

Are people really that delusional here?

How is Monahan comparable to Boeser in any capacity?

Boeser was/is putting up top six production. Monahan's output was terrible in his last two years in Calgary. Boeser's only 25. Monahan was traded at 28.
Top six???? Didn't know a 40 point winger was top six these days.

Boeser is a cap dump at this point. 2 more years at 6.65 million to a team in Montreal who doesn't need him.

Middle six wingers who have never scored 30 or more goals do not bring back much when they have this type of contract.
 

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Yeah no... you gotta be on some powerful drugs to want Anderson over Boeser given their contracts and age. It's clear you don't understand the complexities of the NHL.

I guess Kirby Dach sucks too... 4 goals in 28 games? For a first round pick? Fleeced.



Yeah let's ignore the 324 games prior and focus on the 22 game sample size.

Genius stuff.
I understand just fine. And comparing him to 21 year old Dach is just strawman. Anderson is a better fit for Montreal’s system. He’s blazing fast. Far better defensively and brings a physical aspect that Boeser totally lacks. He’s also developing chemistry with Slafkovsky. Is he a value contract? He’ll no. But neither is Boeser. And if the two I prefer Anderson.
 

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Yeah no... you gotta be on some powerful drugs to want Anderson over Boeser given their contracts and age. It's clear you don't understand the complexities of the NHL.

I guess Kirby Dach sucks too... 4 goals in 28 games? For a first round pick? Fleeced.



Yeah let's ignore the 324 games prior and focus on the 22 game sample size.

Genius stuff.
Josh Anderson + Logan Mailloux for Brock Boeser + Tucker Poolman?
Easy pass. I'm not saying Boeser is bad but really is he a piece a rebuilding team would be looking for?
 
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JohnHodgson

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Easy pass. I'm not saying Boeser is bad but really is he a piece a rebuilding team would be looking for?

And why would a rebuilding team or any team for that matter want Josh Anderon's contract?

It's one of the worst in the league.

Top six???? Didn't know a 40 point winger was top six these days.

Boeser is a cap dump at this point. 2 more years at 6.65 million to a team in Montreal who doesn't need him.

Middle six wingers who have never scored 30 or more goals do not bring back much when they have this type of contract.
40 points?

You're talking about his 46 points in 71 games last year?

Or the 49 points in 56 games the year prior?

Or the 45 points in 57 games the year prior to that?

Or the 56 points in 69 games the year prior to that?

Or the 55 points in 62 games the year prior to that?

If you don't know anything about hockey just say so.
 

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Are they concluding boeser based on his last 30 games? This guy lead our team in points and goals twice of the last 5 seasons. Would have 3 30 goal seasons under his belt if not for some injuries.

Now I’m not saying up your damn price. What i said are facts. He’s also playing his worst stretch of his going career. Also a fact. Let’s not forget he just lost his dad. Boeser is only 25. And he already lost his dad. That really affected him. Remember wade redden ? He lost his mom and his game was never the same. His game literally went downhill from there.

I really don’t know what’s been offered. Dhaliwal has a track record of getting stuff correct. A lot of downplaying. If teams are not interested they will simply not call Alvin for Brock. I’m totally ok with keeping Brock.
 

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And why would a rebuilding team or any team for that matter want Josh Anderon's contract?

It's one of the worst in the league.


40 points?

You're talking about his 46 points in 71 games last year?

Or the 49 points in 56 games the year prior?

Or the 45 points in 57 games the year prior to that?

Or the 56 points in 69 games the year prior to that?

Or the 55 points in 62 games the year prior to that?

It’s getting disgusting they are labelling him a 40 point guy as negotiating leverage just to drive him Down or just to dump on him. Absolute horse shit.

Imagine Canuck fans trying to leverage horvat as a 59 goal scorer. Unreal.
 

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Are they concluding boeser based on his last 30 games? This guy lead our team in points and goals twice of the last 5 seasons. Would have 3 30 goal seasons under his belt if not for some injuries.

Now I’m not saying up your damn price. What i said are facts. He’s also playing his worst stretch of his going career. Also a fact. Let’s not forget he just lost his dad. Boeser is only 25. And he already lost his dad. That really affected him. Remember wade redden ? He lost his mom and his game was never the same. His game literally went downhill from there.

I really don’t know what’s been offered. Dhaliwal has a track record of getting stuff correct. A lot of downplaying. If teams are not interested they will simply not call Alvin for Brock. I’m totally ok with keeping Brock.
Cool. Keep him. Or trade him to another team. He’s not a fit for Montreal
 

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