Rumor: Dhaliwal: Canucks interested in Alexis Lafrenière

[Calad]

Same dude that was leaking about how hard the rangers were interested in JT Miller? Which turned out to be full of shit? What a shocker.

Nothing to see here

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Canucks interest in Alexis Lafrenière.​

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Canucks interest in Alexis Lafrenière.

The Canucks know this player inside out, Lafrenière's old agent is current Canucks assistant GM Emilie Castonguay.

The Canucks have checked in on Lafrenière, he was made a healthy scratch last week by the Rangers.

The Rangers are very ware of the Vancouver interest in Lafrenière.

Lafrenière will not be cheap but the Canucks have the assets like Bo Horvat to pull this off, if the Rangers decide to move him.

Lafrenière is the type of player the new regime in Vancouver is looking for.

Before he was traded to Montreal, the Canucks were also one of the teams after Blackhawks forward Kirby Dach.

Lafreniere and Dach are the type of young players the Canucks are looking for.

Shut the front door.

 

[Taluss]

Anything I’d want in return would (rightfully) be off limits from Nucks side.

Hope nothing ends up happening here

 

[Canucks LB]

Some of the responses already in this thread is already making my head hurt.

The Canucks interest makes a ton of sense for youth purposes, that being said, I just don’t understand the fit.

The Canucks need defence, even if you trade Horvat for laff + Something + capdump

I just don’t see the point, rather use a Horvat trade, and get some defensive assets.

That being said, I like that they are targeting, really young, still having decent potential

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Same dude that was leaking about how hard the rangers were interested in JT Miller? Which turned out to be full of shit? What a shocker.

Nothing to see here

Miller for Lafreniere makes sense.

Make it happen...please.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I'm starting to think that insider may have sources but puts a bunch of shit out for hits

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

Nobody knows if it is a Yakupov situation or not. You can't say for sure that it's not. Teams will be interested yes but if the price is a 1st and top end player, the interest goes down to 0%. I believe Lafreniere still has 1st rounder value but no longer top 10 value. Those devaluing him to 2nd round or worse are playing the stupid HF devalue game.

Got to look at it from both sides of the fence:
It just as risky to the Rangers at trading him for less value now where he breaks out with his new team
vs
It being risky to the team who trades a 1st (10-32) range and he continues to disappoint while the Rangers get a 2nd chance at hitting with that 1st rounder dart.

The Oilers get blamed for ruining Yakupov but I said during Yakupov's rookie year that he couldn't play hockey at the NHL level because of hockey IQ & the Oilers should trade high on him. It was a controversial take at the time to anybody I told but it turned out it was pretty good.

I've never gotten that watching Lafreniere like ever.

 

[waitin425]

Laf's value has dropped incredibly. If the Rags could somehow pull off a Horvat for Laf swap....with some other pieces to account for salary it would be a massive win for the Rangers.

From the Habs....the best you would get from us would be something like a straight Laf for Beck swap. The value of Laf is at an all time low.

 

[Calad]

Miller for Lafreniere makes sense.

Make it happen...please.

Yeah I'm sure the rangers would love to be saddled with bozo's 8 million for 7 years, makes tons of sense.

Doesn't matter anyways because Laf isnt available.

 

[Burnaby Schmo]

Miller for Lafreniere makes sense.

Make it happen...please.

I don't know if it does. He's got that new contract coming up, and I just don't see the value for NY.

Horvat retained for Laf, I think will be it,

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

Because Yak was better.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Just NO!

But thanks for the lol.

 

[dbaz]

would the Canucks take Trouba along with Lafreniere? Rangers need to move out cap

only if you take miller

 

[Alluckks]

Vancouver front office trying to use their own media again lmao

Worked out great with JT Miller!

 

[Habs Halifax]

The Oilers get blamed for ruining Yakupov but I said during Yakupov's rookie year that he couldn't play hockey at the NHL level because of hockey IQ & the Oilers should trade high on him. It was a controversial take at the time to anybody I told but it turned out it was pretty good.

I've never gotten that watching Lafreniere like ever.

Who knows how it plays out. All I know is Lafreniere no longer has top 10 pick value. I do think he has 10-32 range value but I get the feeling the Rangers want more. Teams will knock on the door but the interest is to buy low with the chance he changes his direction with their team.

I can't say I have watched every Rangers game and fans need to admit that as well. However, in the games I have watched, Lafreniere is not a play driver. I actually think he is having a hard time with the less time and space and more physical players. His skating is good but not good enough to create time and space which is very important. Seems like he feasted on weaker opposition in the Q but then you look at that WJC performance and you wonder? Who is the real Lafreniere?

 

[Ace]

That all sounds like economics to me, not math.

...or did they not teach you he subtle difference in school?

Economics is the study of production, distribution and consumption of goods.

Math is the study of quality, structure, space and change.

understanding the cap space and effects on it by a change in numbers requires math, not economics.

 

[Groo]

Do the schools in Canada teach math?

The Rangers have Zibanejad and Trocheck signed long-term term.

The Rangers can't afford Horvat's next contract.

The Rangers can't afford JT Miller'a next contract.

Everybody knows that New Yorkers major in arrogance.

 

[BKarchitect]

Canucks’ media rumor mill puts even the Leafs to shame.

It would be hilarious to see how many threads have appeared on this forum in the last 12 months that Dhaliwal or one of his cohorts ‘fed’ to the rumor cycle.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Do the schools in Canada teach math?

The Rangers have Zibanejad and Trocheck signed long-term term.

The Rangers can't afford Horvat's next contract.

The Rangers can't afford JT Miller'a next contract.

Seems like wherever you went to school doesn't teach math.

Capfriendly states the Rangers have $2,932,508 in cap space today.

They project the Rangers to have $1,616,842 by season's end (I assume this takes into account players coming back from injury)

Bo Horvat today at 50% RET is a cap hit of $1,501,351.

Alexis Lafrienere today is a cap hit of $505,000

The Rangers could trade Lafrienere for Horvat at 50% today and still have over $1,800,000 in cap space today. It would be over $600,000 projected for end of season

Yes you say next season they cant afford him but thats up to the Rangers. They can make other trades if they want to keep him. They could just want him as a rental. Thats their perogative.

 

[Nucker42]

would the Canucks take Trouba along with Lafreniere? Rangers need to move out cap

Isn’t he the captain?

 

[hawksrule]

Who knows how it plays out. All I know is Lafreniere no longer has top 10 pick value. I do think he has 10-32 range value but I get the feeling the Rangers want more. Teams will knock on the door but the interest is to buy low with the chance he changes his direction with their team.

I can't say I have watched every Rangers game and fans need to admit that as well. However, in the games I have watched, Lafreniere is not a play driver. I actually think he is having a hard time with the less time and space and more physical players. His skating is good but not good enough to create time and space which is very important. Seems like he feasted on weaker opposition in the Q but then you look at that WJC performance and you wonder? Who is the real Lafreniere?

His skating isn’t good, it’s slow and clunky. The lack of improvement in his skating by his d+3 season is why I think the current player basically is what he will be.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Every team in the NHL should be interested as this is NOT a Yakupov situation.

Edmonton fans were saying the same thing. As were Hab fans about Galchenyuk. In fact, both Yakupov and Galchenyuk outscored Lafrenière in the same respective time frame.

None of this is to say the Rangers should make this trade or that Lafrenière is a guaranteed bust. However, it's equally silly to make a definitive statement he won't be when his trajectory up to this point simply isn't looking good.

 

[Hierso]

Please don’t sell low.

Agreed, the only reason to trade Laf would be if he himself asks out.

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

Who knows how it plays out. All I know is Lafreniere no longer has top 10 pick value. I do think he has 10-32 range value but I get the feeling the Rangers want more. Teams will knock on the door but the interest is to buy low with the chance he changes his direction with their team.

I can't say I have watched every Rangers game and fans need to admit that as well. However, in the games I have watched, Lafreniere is not a play driver. I actually think he is having a hard time with the less time and space and more physical players. His skating is good but not good enough to create time and space which is very important. Seems like he feasted on weaker opposition in the Q but then you look at that WJC performance and you wonder? Who is the real Lafreniere?

That's fair.

Lafreniere has the hockey IQ but may not have the motor to succeed but Yakupov had the motor but not hockey IQ IMO.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I'll be curious what type of return NYR could get for Lafreniere. For the most part he has been pretty underwhelming(I find)... Many NYR games that I watch, I don't notice him at all and forget he's even playing. I said this on another thread that I find it strange that for such a once highly touted junior player and 1st overall pick, there has been no talk of him really at all ever.

Seems like NYR is in a tricky situation with him right now... Trade him when his value most likely isn't very high OR keep him and most likely over pay him for his next contract.

Judging by many NYR game day threads it seems like many fans are frustrated with Lafrenieres lack of production so hopefully management is able to utilize him in a trade to acquire a big name to improve the team

 

[Bondra slapshot]

I'm not saying that this will happen or anything but the Rangers actually would have more use for players like Schenn, Myers or Kuzmenko over players like J.T. Miller or Horvat.

This undying narrative of Horvat to the Rangers seems like it's coming solely from people that just like trying to jam a square peg into a round hole.

From a cap perspective and from a positional perspective, it really makes no sense and isn't even feasible. I don't think the propagators of this idea are familiar with the Rangers team and cap structure. They also probably think the Rangers are playing better than they are and therefore, will want to "go for it" this season. Not sure if you've noticed but the Rangers have been very mediocre and certainly do not look like a team that's ready to pull the trigger on an over-the-top acquisition for a deep playoff run. It's quite possible that they miss the playoffs this year too.