Dr Jan Itor
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It means that they could have interest in a pick in this draft. They just might've had more interest in Jiricek.
Speculation: NEED CONFIRMATION! WE HAVE BEEN TRICKED?! WILLANDER TO ?!
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Why? Makes no sense to trade Rossi outside of a 1-for-1 for a similar player.
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Yeah, Willander gives Faber energy. The Canucks should not trade him at all. Both he and Lekkerimaki will likely play integral roles next year and provide a significant surplus on their cap hits. Only way Willander should be traded is for a guy like McTavish and even then, I don't see Anaheim doing that.
Dr Jan Itor
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If Guerin has interest in both the Nelson and Boeser free agent markets, that'll use up pretty much all of the cap space. Won't have room for a similar player coming back.
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He’s a LD and I’m not that optimistic about him becoming a regular NHL defenseman. Outside of Buium & Jiricek, I don’t think we have any prospect that is trending towards being a NHLer.
Dr Jan Itor
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Correct, but he might want leave himself the possibility. 1st + top prospect might be enough for him to give a shot, especially since it doesn't seem like he's a big Rossi guy (could still be conjecture).
And the draft is awfully close to free agency, but I forget if there's still a "tampering window" or if that went away.
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Not a Canucks fan, far from it, but given the state of their defense I think it's a freaking horrible idea to trade Willander.
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McMichael doesn't play Center, I think that ship has probably sailed. He wasn't very good at it. He's certainly more valuable as a 25+ goal scoring winger. Even as a prospect, many analysts thought he'd be better as a winger in the NHL.
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This talk of Willander AND our first is insane..........Willander on his own should be worth a 2c. He's a smooth skating RHD who has future top 4 written all over him. Is a 2C worth that much more?
I have an extremely hard time believing he's on the table. EXTREMELY hard time.
Him and a 14th overall pick? That's incredibly rich and I'd rather go hard at a guy like Horvat who I can't see costing nearly that much.
I have an extremely hard time believing he's on the table. EXTREMELY hard time.
Him and a 14th overall pick? That's incredibly rich and I'd rather go hard at a guy like Horvat who I can't see costing nearly that much.
Who the f*** would trade a #2 center for a prospect with top 4 potential? Wild that you think that is real. Unless there is some outside factor like IDK their 2 best forwards hating each other and being forced to trade one.
VancouverJagger
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He's projected to hop right into our top 4 next year..........He's a weeeeee bit more than a prospect. How much is a 20 year old top 4 rhd worth? You don't trade players like this.
How much different is he then Brock Faber? He got you a top line winger.......yes very different value but not soo far off and I'd value that he's every bit if not more valuable then Faber was due to his draft pedigree.
I really like D Petey but he’s who we should move because we already Hughes and Pettersson on the left side. Willander is looking like a potential top pair RHD, we need him for the 2nd pairing. I 100% understand not wanting to move D Petey but if Hughes is committed here for the long run there’s no room for D Petey. Moving either of D Petey or Willander has massive potential to blow up on us so they better pick the right young 2C, and no to Barzal for either of them we need someone younger than him if we’re parting with a young stud d man
Edit: I stopped reading and didn't finish his post. I thought he was comparing him to Faber now. Ignore.
He is a prospect. He has zero NHL games played. That is a prospect.
Okay you're just delusional. Brock Faber is a 22 year old #1 RHD playing 25+ minutes a night in the NHL. Are you seriously comparing him to a guy playing playing 23 minutes a night in college?
Luneau is also a 20 year old RH, who has been better then Willander might I add, and I would never expect to get a young #2 center straight up for him.
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kent johnson is already a borderline first line winger. he plays like a center in the offensive zone but we haven't deployed him as such.
he's absolutely not gonna get traded. he has two more years left after this at $1.8m and has scored at roughly a 70-point pace this year.
cole sillinger, on the other hand, is 100% a center but might not have a long-term home on this roster, and would be very available in this kind of deal.
VancouverJagger
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Dude.........where was Faber playing when he got traded? My god.........yes absolutely i am comparing him at the time of the trade...........that was the point. Apparently it went zoooming over your head.
He was a similar prospect at the time to what Willander is now.........genius.......
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2C is probably, after 1C and 1D, the next most desirable and difficult to obtain piece. So yeah, a legit 2C is worth more than a D prospect that isn't an elite high probability star type prospect.
If Willander could net a 2C on his own, I can think of several teams that have comparable very good D prospects who would gladly pony up theirs as well if it would bring in an established 2C.
Willander is absolutely an elite prospect with top pair upside. His game just isn’t flashy.
The number of defensive prospects in the league as good or better than him can be counted on your ten fingers and I guarantee you every one of those other prospect’s fanbase consider their guy completely off limits in a trade.
VancouverJagger
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I agree on the center position. I would argue Willander is close to if not already an elite prospect. He's one of the top 5 or 6 D prospects not currently in the NHL. There are not many prospects better then him. AND he plays the right side. Him AND the 13th to 15th overall? Unless you are getting a very high end 2c I think that is an overpayment and personally unless we are getting McTavish or someone like him I'd rather go after an older 2C like Schenn or Horvat as the price won't be nearly as much.
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VancouverJagger
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Yeah nice to see someone else who gets it.........Willander is one of the top 5 or 6 D prospects not playing in the NHL atm.........AND he plays the right side. I think people are SEVERELY undervaluing him here.
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can we just send some junk to the islansers for horvat instead?
say, chytil, mynio/kudryatsev, and a second?
say, chytil, mynio/kudryatsev, and a second?
VancouverJagger
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This would absolutely be my first choice and a much better option. Probably have to overpay a bit (first, Hoglander/Garland and Mynio) but i would take that all day long over trading Willander and a first.......
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