Speculation: NEED CONFIRMATION! WE HAVE BEEN TRICKED?! WILLANDER TO ?!

[Hockeyfan200]

Sure agree........I would argue our first, a solid roster player and top 4 prospect of ours is an overpay.......We originally traded him for a 1st, similar prospect in Raty and almost a cap dump in Beauvillier so this offer is better by us adding a solid roster player instead of a cap dump. I'd be willing to add in another draft pic (2nd or 3rd ?) as well.

But perhaps we have differing thoughts on value

He was a free agent then. He's now on a long term contract. Islanders still have a core in place and Lou as GM and they will not rebuild. No team is trading a good C on long term contract for a 1st round pick and winger without getting a C back

 

[cbjthrowaway]

That's of interest to VAN, I would think. I wonder, would CBJ/VAN do something like VAN '25 1st for Sillinger + LDBB?

don't see much of a need to include DBB. cole sillinger already has almost 300 NHL games under his belt and he's only 21. there's a decent chance that whoever in this draft gets picked with vancouver's pick doesn't even become a full-time NHL player until they're older than cole is right now.

i assume the idea behind trading for sillinger is to skip the "draft and develop" phase without sacrificing upside, cap, or team control.

also giving up both players would leave us a bit exposed in the event of an injury to one of our other centers.

CBJ adds a high pick they can either use or flip

we'd almost certainly look to flip it to get a star player in a separate deal, either a defenseman or a right-handed winger.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Changed this to speculation as the exact source cannot be confirmed.

 

[oceanchild]

1st, Wallinder, Hoglander for Barzal and Engvall.

NYI can then re-sign DeAngelo for one year trade Dobson for an impact forward.

I am not close to be high enough on Barzal to get close to that package. I would add garland if Dobson was also going, but that package is to much for Barzal.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

1st, Wallinder, Hoglander for Barzal and Engvall.

NYI can then re-sign DeAngelo for one year trade Dobson for an impact forward.

Depends on what Detroit wants for Wallinder? Also, don't try to sneak Engvall in there we are up against the cap and have to many bottom six wingers already.

 

[FiveTacos]

Genuine young top 4 RHD > young top 6 C.

Depends on the C and the D. If it's a 4D I don't care if he's a RHD, I ain't giving up a good young 2C for him.

Even now, there's multiple threads from multiple fan bases, offering up D prospects (even RHD) and picks for a young 2C. Which tells you not only how important 2C is, but also how scarce the supply is. If RHD were more valued, you'd have fans offering up their good young C prospects for established 2nd pairing RHD. But they don't.

I mean really, how many true top 6 Cs in the league are there? And how many teams actually have two of them, and are willing to give one up? Some good 2Cs are de facto 1Cs because of scarcity. Which leaves even fewer for teams looking for a 2nd (or even 1st) center.

There aren't 64 really good top 6 Cs to go around ... I might even argue there aren't 32 of them.

And unlike a D corps that lacks righties, you can't just play a guy on his off side and get by. There's no simple remedy when your 2C isn't up to snuff.

Luneau is a nice prospect but there’s levels to this and he’s not on Willander’s level.

I think they're very different stylistically, but Luneau is having a bonkers offensive season for a 20 year old. After a "slow" start (10 points in 22) he's had 38 points in 32 games. At one point in March he was leading the entire league in scoring post 1/1/25. Hard not to lump him in with the tier 2 group of high potential top 4 types, behind the tier 1 superstar potential guys.

 

[Coffee]

Uhh....Dhali never mentioned any of the things mentioned in the first post, not in the show uploaded today at least. I highly doubt they will trade Willander. I would not trade him for any of the D drafted in the extremely deep 2023 draft.

Guy has all the defensive skills and intangibles you want to build around. They know how good ASP and Benson is and decided on him over both of them.

OP’s got a job to do as well.

 

[Canucks LB]

Willander for Zegras would be a good trade for both clubs.

I would cry if that happened, would be a Dreadful trade.
I am reluctant trading a 1st for him, let alone willander

 

[Canucks LB]

I also just listened to the show, nowhere did Dhaliwal mention anything you said in your first post...

HOW THE PLOT THICKENS! FAKE THREAD ALERT?!

 

[Zirakzigil]

HOW THE PLOT THICKENS! FAKE THREAD ALERT?!

Already changed it to speculation

It can remain as such cause its generating conversation.

 

[Canucks LB]

Already changed it to speculation

It can remain as such cause its generating conversation.

I can just make a new thread?

 

[Zirakzigil]

I can just make a new thread?

If you insist. Remember the last time though?

 

[Canucks LB]

If you insist. Remember the last time though?

incoming 100 pages

 

[Canucks LB]

Speculation: Thread '1st (Top 15) + Willander/Dpetey for ??? (Center)'

Apr 10, 2025

The last thread was locked due to false advertising! I blame @Zirakzigil for that one.

Welcome to your new and improved thread, featuring some good old-fashioned speculation!
The Canucks are reportedly targeting a young 2C via trade.
Rumored assets that could potentially be available include their 2025 1st (top 15), 2nd, and San Jose’s 3rd-round pick.
When it comes to more significant pieces, they might reluctantly consider dangling Tom Willander or D-Petey (Elias Pettersson 2.0) in a Package for...

• Canucks LB
• Replies: 80
• Forum: Trades Rumors & Free Agency

New thread above!