Confirmed with Link: Devils to retire Martin Brodeur's #30 02/09/16 vs Edm

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Yeah no need to question why Marty picked Feb 9.

He has his reasons, we as fans will show him our strong & sincere appreciation and celebrate his legendary career.

Only 5 days away!

Those of us who have tickets to Saturday afternoon's game vs Wash will get to see Marty drop the ceremonious pregame puck.
 

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This game was never gonna be a on a weekend because one of the primary reasons for these games are to take games that would have had 5,000 empty seats and turn it in to a premium priced full house. The only teams that do weekend retirements are places like Montreal where every game is a sellout anyway
 

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This game was never gonna be a on a weekend because one of the primary reasons for these games are to take games that would have had 5,000 empty seats and turn it in to a premium priced full house. The only teams that do weekend retirements are places like Montreal where every game is a sellout anyway

Understand your point as to why it would be a weekday, but it's not like the Devils are retiring numbers just to get a few thousand tickets sold.
 

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This game was never gonna be a on a weekend because one of the primary reasons for these games are to take games that would have had 5,000 empty seats and turn it in to a premium priced full house. The only teams that do weekend retirements are places like Montreal where every game is a sellout anyway

The previous 3 were all done on Friday nights, I figured they would do that early in the season to fill up an empty game, but I guess Marty's schedule is a lot different to work out compared to the other guys in their retirement.
 

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Understand your point as to why it would be a weekday, but it's not like the Devils are retiring numbers just to get a few thousand tickets sold.

To an extent they absolutely are. Not only did they hike up prices for that game but they sold it in a bunch of packages to make people go to other games. Obviously 30 is going to the rafters regardless but teams milk every cent out of this.
 

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The previous 3 were all done on Friday nights, I figured they would do that early in the season to fill up an empty game, but I guess Marty's schedule is a lot different to work out compared to the other guys in their retirement.

If you look at the schedule it was pretty obvious in October this game was a dud. It's surrounded by division rivals. I'm sure they gave Marty a couple dates to choose from but I would imagine they strongly recommended this day.
 

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To an extent they absolutely are. Not only did they hike up prices for that game but they sold it in a bunch of packages to make people go to other games. Obviously 30 is going to the rafters regardless but teams milk every cent out of this.

Further to this, what was done for prior number retirements here doesn't apply.

With previous management, it was essentially what worked for the player and then what would make sense for the fans, because you had a couple of guys running the team that had the mindset of either being a fan themselves or having the fans in mind when decision making.

Now you have new management with the correct mindset from a business standpoint, what works for the player and then what makes sense financially for the organization to make money at all avenues as you mentioned.

As a fan we all want what would make sense from our standpoint, that being a Friday or Saturday game where less scrambling and planning would be involved around work schedules and what not, but from the business standpoint, have to understand where they are coming from.
 

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To an extent they absolutely are. Not only did they hike up prices for that game but they sold it in a bunch of packages to make people go to other games. Obviously 30 is going to the rafters regardless but teams milk every cent out of this.

As they should – why wouldn’t they try to milk every cent out of this event? There’s plenty of people reselling tickets that are also making out well. Just because a team benefits financially from jersey retirements doesn’t mean that this was a factor in their decision to retire the number as you’re suggesting.

Simply put, even if the Devils didn’t make a dime during these events #3, #4, #27, #30 and soon-to-be #26 would still be hanging from the rafters. The additional money the team makes is a benefit of the decision to retire, not a driver.
 

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Further to this, what was done for prior number retirements here doesn't apply.

With previous management, it was essentially what worked for the player and then what would make sense for the fans, because you had a couple of guys running the team that had the mindset of either being a fan themselves or having the fans in mind when decision making.

Now you have new management with the correct mindset from a business standpoint, what works for the player and then what makes sense financially for the organization to make money at all avenues as you mentioned.

As a fan we all want what would make sense from our standpoint, that being a Friday or Saturday game where less scrambling and planning would be involved around work schedules and what not, but from the business standpoint, have to understand where they are coming from.

NJDevils7 also had a very good point earlier that a weekend game might not have worked for Marty since his kids usually have games then and he wanted them to be there. Fact is, we really don’t know all of what went into picking this date…how much (if any) was the team wanting to maximize revenue vs. this being the best date for Marty and his family.

It’s been called out that there was a ticket deal for this game earlier in the season – if the Devils had this date in mind all along and were strongly pushing Marty towards it, I highly doubt they authorize that deal as it surely cost them a number of tickets that they could’ve packaged and sold with other games.
 

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If you look at the schedule it was pretty obvious in October this game was a dud. It's surrounded by division rivals. I'm sure they gave Marty a couple dates to choose from but I would imagine they strongly recommended this day.

I'm calling BS on this theory - I honestly believe it was a much more respectful conversation and asking Marty to give them a game or games that would work best for him and then working around that.

It's rather cold to treat the franchise's best player like you suggest..."Hey Marty, I know you're busy and all with your full-time position in St. Louis, but here's a couple dates we were thinking of...and I STRONGLY suggest you make 2/9 work, as it would help our billionaire owners make a few thousand dollars extra. You have 24 hours to get back to us. K thx bye."
 

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As they should – why wouldn’t they try to milk every cent out of this event? There’s plenty of people reselling tickets that are also making out well. Just because a team benefits financially from jersey retirements doesn’t mean that this was a factor in their decision to retire the number as you’re suggesting.

Simply put, even if the Devils didn’t make a dime during these events #3, #4, #27, #30 and soon-to-be #26 would still be hanging from the rafters. The additional money the team makes is a benefit of the decision to retire, not a driver.

Some people just like to chronically whine and complain about things even when they don't know the real reasons behind the decisions.

When was Feb 9 announced, October 5?
If 4 months is not enough time for people to make arrangements I don't know what else to say.

Teams routinely have jersey retirement nights during the week (M-F).
Our good friend Messier's was on a "school" night.

Clearly there were some games that didn't make sense, but I am all but sure that this was the night that Marty chose.
SMH that some fans are still complaining about it.
It's going to be a joyous evening. :)
 
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I'm calling BS on this theory - I honestly believe it was a much more respectful conversation and asking Marty to give them a game or games that would work best for him and then working around that.

It's rather cold to treat the franchise's best player like you suggest..."Hey Marty, I know you're busy and all with your full-time position in St. Louis, but here's a couple dates we were thinking of...and I STRONGLY suggest you make 2/9 work, as it would help our billionaire owners make a few thousand dollars extra. You have 24 hours to get back to us. K thx bye."

Unfortunately, I think that, unlike 3, 4, and 27, this is much more of a business transaction than than you'd like it to be. I would be surprised if they did not give Marty a list of 3-5 less desirable (likely weekday) games to choose from in order to move tickets for this season and next. It is a virtual certainty that there is a contract to split most of the money (Evening with Marty, merchandise, etc.) that this is generating. I don't think that this makes either side nefarious, I just think that ownership and Marty have shown themselves to be concerned with the bottom line as much as anything else in these situations.
 

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Some people just like to chronically whine and complain about things even when they don't know the real reasons behind the decisions.

When was Feb 9 announced, October 5?
If 4 months is not enough time for people to make arrangements I don't know what else to say.

Teams routinely have jersey retirement nights during the week (M-F).
Our good friend Messier's was on a "school" night.

Clearly there were some games that didn't make sense, but I am all but sure that this was the night that Marty chose.
SMH that some fans are still complaining about it.
It's going to be a joyous evening. :)

or call in sick either the day of the game or the one after if its an issue…..unless of course you have already 'showed your hand' and told your boss and co-workers that you are going to the game :laugh:
 

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I think selling tickets is a huge factor to why it is this date. It's crazy to think otherwise

Honestly, it’s not so crazy when you look into it further – especially when considering a huge factor in choosing the date is that Marty’s family could all attend. The most challenging aspect of this is working around Anthony & Jeremy's hockey schedules. This alone would wipe out any chance of a weekend game as it would require them to miss 1-2 of their team’s games.

Anthony’s team has games on the 6th & the 12th, while Jeremy’s team has games on the 7th & the 11th, so having the jersey retirement on the 9th is ideal for them as they can both fly in the day before/after without missing any games.

With the statue being created, it’s not like they could’ve had the ceremony much earlier in the season. The only other weeknight games in February are against the Rangers & Flyers, which makes zero sense as you wouldn’t want a good chunk of opposing fans in attendance or these meatheads making out by reselling their tickets. In March, you have Carolina on Tuesday, 3/1 – however, it looks like Anthony’s team’s season ends 2/27 so there’s likely playoffs happening that week. There’s Minnesota on Thursday, 3/17 – but Jeremy has games the night before & after, so that one is out. Oshawa's regular season ends on 3/20, so any games after that won’t work due to playoffs.

Thursday, 1/21 vs Ottawa doesn’t really work as Jeremy has a game the following night.

Which leaves us with January 19th as the only other viable option – a Tuesday night game against a low drawing team from Alberta (in this case, the Flames) and the same rhetoric we’re seeing now about the date being picking just to sell more tickets.

So, no – it’s not really crazy to think that perhaps…just perhaps this was the absolute best date that worked for Marty and his family, since we can all (hopefully) agree the games vs. the Rangers and Flyer were not an option.
 

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NHL.com is running Marty pieces I think daily now. There was one on his draft year two days ago, the 94 run yesterday, and 95 today.

So if they are getting involved, I don't think its a stretch that the network will air most of the ceremony on Tuesday considering there is no game that night.
 

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We don't have to speculate. I remember listening/reading an article where he is specifically asked about the date. He said he chose that date because it worked best for his family and kids. Ill try to find the quote.

From TG Blog:

Did the team work with you as far as figuring out what date would work best for you and your family?

“They did and it was all about me, which was nice. They didn't pressure me into doing anything. It was more of a mutual agreement on what they wanted to do and what I wanted to do. For me, it was important that my kids were here and the only way to do it without them missing their season is doing it on a (weekday) game. That's the reasoning behind why it's a Tuesday and not a Saturday. But, it worked out well, especially the weekend before that they have an afternoon game, too (Saturday, Feb. 6 vs. Washington is a 1 p. m. game.)
 
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Why does the Marty banner start with the year he was drafted? He didn't actually play for the Devils till like 1992.

Nvm I just saw Nieds and Dano's banners also start with drafted year. For some reason I didn't notice that before.
 

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Why does the Marty banner start with the year he was drafted? He didn't actually play for the Devils till like 1992.

With the 3 retired numbers that were drafted by us, it appears they're going with the year they were drafted.

I knew Niedermayer had played some games in the 91-92 season, and it turns out they were actually in the 1991 part of that season. His starts with 1991.

Daneyko's banner is 1982, he didn't actually play a game in the NHL until 83-84 though.

I've always tried to figure out why Niedermayer's last year on the banner is 04, but Stevens last year on his banner is 05. Both technically played their last games with the Devils in 04, both were technically under contract with the Devils until 05 though.
 

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Cheapest stubhub ticket price up to $174 now.

Think they will fall?
Maybe so if the weather forecast turns sour.
 

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With the 3 retired numbers that were drafted by us, it appears they're going with the year they were drafted.

I knew Niedermayer had played some games in the 91-92 season, and it turns out they were actually in the 1991 part of that season. His starts with 1991.

Daneyko's banner is 1982, he didn't actually play a game in the NHL until 83-84 though.

I've always tried to figure out why Niedermayer's last year on the banner is 04, but Stevens last year on his banner is 05. Both technically played their last games with the Devils in 04, both were technically under contract with the Devils until 05 though.

Lockout foolishness? I really don't know
 
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