Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - season begins!

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

As great as Casey has looked at times, I don’t see a way he doesn’t hit a wall and could benefit from some time down. He for sure looks dynamic offensively, but he’s also shooting at 75%. Him and Nemec have also gotten pinned in their own zone more than a handful of times.

Casey has looked better than Nemec, but Nemec deserves a little more benefit of the doubt. There is a good chance he started training camp less than 100%, and still might not be. That said, with the depth this team has, two guys need to come out when Luke and Pesce get back. Nemec and Casey are the obvious choices.

Why? It's Casey's rookie year, and he's still adjusting to the pro game while playing on his off side.

 

[Nocashstyle]

Why? It's Casey's rookie year, and he's still adjusting to the pro game while playing on his off side.

Because almost every rookie, especially defensemen, hit a rookie wall or dip at some point. Even more so with Casey not playing a single professional game before this year.

 

[Nubmer6]

He for sure looks dynamic offensively, but he’s also shooting at 75%.

I can't believe the goalies saved one of his 4 shots.

Bust.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Because almost every rookie, especially defensemen, hit a rookie wall or dip at some point. Even more so with Casey not playing a single professional game before this year.

If he's only playing 12 mins a night, I think he'll probably be okay.

None of Hughes, Makar, or Fox really hit that wall, and I think Casey could end up in their class, or just behind them.

 

[dgibb10]

Anyways go get me Jake Evans Radek Faksa Nico Sturm or Lars Eller

 

[Nocashstyle]

If he's only playing 12 mins a night, I think he'll probably be okay.

None of Hughes, Makar, or Fox really hit that wall, and I think Casey could end up in their class, or just behind them.

Yes, but it’s just a numbers thing. Two guys need to come out when Luke and Pesce come back. If Casey need to play a sheltered 12 mins a night, I’m not really sure that role takes precedent over someone who can long longer and tougher mins. Luke is going to bring a similar, but right now more seasoned, dynamic offensive skillset.

I don’t think there is any harm in Casey getting some mins in the AHL, even if it’s not really any fault of his own due to his play. It’s purely because of the depth and numbers.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Yes, but it’s just a numbers thing. Two guys need to come out when Luke and Pesce come back. If Casey need to play a sheltered 12 mins a night, I’m not really sure that role takes precedent over someone who can long longer and tougher mins. Luke is going to bring a similar, but right now more seasoned, dynamic offensive skillset.

I don’t think there is any harm in Casey getting some mins in the AHL, even if it’s not really any fault of his own due to his play. It’s purely because of the depth and numbers.

Yeah I don't necessarily disagree that with a full complement of dmen, 2 probably come out. I was more taking issue with the suggestion that Nemec deserves more benefit of the doubt than Casey. When Pesce comes back, I would have a hard time sending Casey down before Nemec based on their play and their roles.

 

[tailfins]

Yeah I don't necessarily disagree that with a full complement of dmen, 2 probably come out. I was more taking issue with the suggestion that Nemec deserves more benefit of the doubt than Casey. When Pesce comes back, I would have a hard time sending Casey down before Nemec based on their play and their roles.

Pesce can play PP2 and PK. He averaged over 1 min of PP time last year. He also has played LD - and played it well.

The Nemec vs Casey question is simply a matter of who the Devils want to keep in the lineup. Neither plays a role that's unique.

 

[JK3]

You guys are waaaaaaay too worried about the defense, holy f*** it's an embarrassment of riches. There's going to be injuries, fatigue, guys are going to come in and out of the lineup based on performance. We can run 7 D as well, none of this impacts the roster or the ability to send guys up or down. This is a managements wet dream, they'll figure it out.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Worrying about something that doesn't need worrying about? On MY HFDevils?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I really don't care who comes out, they're all playing well, that should be the first thing to care about. I trust Keefe and his staff to make the right choices all year. They've aced every challenge so far in this very young season. Also, the defense playing well also means we don't need to rush Pesce back from his hip or Luke with his arm. Imagine getting those guys back at 100% midway through the year on an already stacked roster. We had "Yohann Auvitu", "Egor Yakolev" and Mirco Mueller play defense on this team for the last decade but we're worried about who'll come out of a stacked D core when time comes lol

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I really don't care who comes out, they're all playing well, that should be the first thing to care about. I trust Keefe and his staff to make the right choices all year. They've aced every challenge so far in this very young season. Also, the defense playing well also means we don't need to rush Pesce back from his hip or Luke with his arm. Imagine getting those guys back at 100% midway through the year on an already stacked roster. We had "Yohann Auvitu", "Egor Yakolev" and Mirco Mueller play defense on this team for the last decade but we're worried about who'll come out of a stacked D core when time comes lol

I care for 2 reasons:

1) I want the team to keep winning
2) Casey is significantly more entertaining to watch than any other Devils dman (aside from maybe Luke)

But yeah, it's pretty outrageous that we even have the luxury of having these conversations.

 

[My3Sons]

I care for 2 reasons:

1) I want the team to keep winning
2) Casey is significantly more entertaining to watch than any other Devils dman (aside from maybe Luke)

But yeah, it's pretty outrageous that we even have the luxury of having these conversations.

Well sure, but nobody held a gun to their heads and told them to trade Lovejoy.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I care for 2 reasons:

1) I want the team to keep winning
2) Casey is significantly more entertaining to watch than any other Devils dman (aside from maybe Luke)

But yeah, it's pretty outrageous that we even have the luxury of having these conversations.

That's my point, if Casey is playing well, I don't care if someone with a better resume is out. I don't think point 2 should matter at all lol

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

That's my point, if Casey is playing well, I don't care if someone with a better resume is out. I don't think point 2 should matter at all lol

Well I watch hockey to be entertained. If we agree that the options are equally likely to result in wins, I'd rather watch the option with the more entertaining players.