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Why? It's Casey's rookie year, and he's still adjusting to the pro game while playing on his off side.
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Because almost every rookie, especially defensemen, hit a rookie wall or dip at some point. Even more so with Casey not playing a single professional game before this year.
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If he's only playing 12 mins a night, I think he'll probably be okay.
None of Hughes, Makar, or Fox really hit that wall, and I think Casey could end up in their class, or just behind them.
Anyways go get me Jake Evans Radek Faksa Nico Sturm or Lars Eller
Yes, but it’s just a numbers thing. Two guys need to come out when Luke and Pesce come back. If Casey need to play a sheltered 12 mins a night, I’m not really sure that role takes precedent over someone who can long longer and tougher mins. Luke is going to bring a similar, but right now more seasoned, dynamic offensive skillset.
I don’t think there is any harm in Casey getting some mins in the AHL, even if it’s not really any fault of his own due to his play. It’s purely because of the depth and numbers.
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Yeah I don't necessarily disagree that with a full complement of dmen, 2 probably come out. I was more taking issue with the suggestion that Nemec deserves more benefit of the doubt than Casey. When Pesce comes back, I would have a hard time sending Casey down before Nemec based on their play and their roles.
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Pesce can play PP2 and PK. He averaged over 1 min of PP time last year. He also has played LD - and played it well.
The Nemec vs Casey question is simply a matter of who the Devils want to keep in the lineup. Neither plays a role that's unique.
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You guys are waaaaaaay too worried about the defense, holy f*** it's an embarrassment of riches. There's going to be injuries, fatigue, guys are going to come in and out of the lineup based on performance. We can run 7 D as well, none of this impacts the roster or the ability to send guys up or down. This is a managements wet dream, they'll figure it out.
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Worrying about something that doesn't need worrying about? On MY HFDevils?
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I really don't care who comes out, they're all playing well, that should be the first thing to care about. I trust Keefe and his staff to make the right choices all year. They've aced every challenge so far in this very young season. Also, the defense playing well also means we don't need to rush Pesce back from his hip or Luke with his arm. Imagine getting those guys back at 100% midway through the year on an already stacked roster. We had "Yohann Auvitu", "Egor Yakolev" and Mirco Mueller play defense on this team for the last decade but we're worried about who'll come out of a stacked D core when time comes lol
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I care for 2 reasons:
1) I want the team to keep winning
2) Casey is significantly more entertaining to watch than any other Devils dman (aside from maybe Luke)
But yeah, it's pretty outrageous that we even have the luxury of having these conversations.
Well sure, but nobody held a gun to their heads and told them to trade Lovejoy.
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That's my point, if Casey is playing well, I don't care if someone with a better resume is out. I don't think point 2 should matter at all lol
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Well I watch hockey to be entertained. If we agree that the options are equally likely to result in wins, I'd rather watch the option with the more entertaining players.
That's a fair outlook given that the NHL is an entertainment product at its core (albeit the league does what it can to stifle anything actually entertaining about the product).
It's definitely a "good problem" to have, that it's going to be tough to decide who comes out.
Casey and Kovacevic would have been the obvious choices before, but they've made their case.
I was very optimistic on the Kovacevic acquisition and he's been excellent thus far. Getting top-four quality play out of a 4th round pick trade cost and league minimum cap hit. I said at the time, it was my favourite move of the offseason. Fine work from Fitz.
Ultimately it will be Casey going back down. He's had some defensive misgivings and the most time spent in the DZ (along with Nemec).
Casey and Kovacevic would have been the obvious choices before, but they've made their case.
I was very optimistic on the Kovacevic acquisition and he's been excellent thus far. Getting top-four quality play out of a 4th round pick trade cost and league minimum cap hit. I said at the time, it was my favourite move of the offseason. Fine work from Fitz.
Ultimately it will be Casey going back down. He's had some defensive misgivings and the most time spent in the DZ (along with Nemec).
I've mentioned multiple times that the club should look at moving Hamilton pre-emptively. Not because his play is going downhill (yet), but to get ahead of that happening.
He's not a fleet footed guy in the first place. If he loses a step with age-related decline, I could envision a scenario he goes from "good" to very quickly "unplayable". Kinda what happened to guys like Seabrook.
The Devils don't have a 13th forward worth playing, so if any forward gets injured they will run with 7 D.
that will change once they trade Nemec and a first and Hameenaho for Anderson from Montreal.
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Please post that on the trade boards so all the Habs fans can laugh at your lowball offer.
Trading 132 rough and tumble NHL goals for 3 NHL goals? Their momma didn’t raise no fools.
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those numbers show the Casey/Nemec pairing getting caved on 5v5 with only a 35% Corsi. Does show exactly why Hamilton is needed for this season and probably next. Good stuff from Casey on the offensive side so far but he will still have predictable growing pains defensively this year, and he might as well work on those in the AHL. Unless he severely outplays Nemec I guess.
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He's not wrong.
He's not wrong.
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Overall pretty happy with our start to the season. 4-2. I'll take that.
We appear to have way more structure which is encouraging as well.
We appear to have way more structure which is encouraging as well.
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