Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part VI

[Guttersniped]

check the date that John Marino returned to the lineup.

I’m very pumped for this . Get to watch Bedard live . I’d way rather watch the Devils play live even if it was a random game in November against a shit team but I’ll take what I can get . View attachment 666570

And Chase Stillman.

 

[glenwo2]

About Bratt. He's a great player but he's in the same tier as guys around the league who have recently signed deals in the ~$8-8.5 mil per year range.

I think he's a polarizing figure because he's a smallish, enigmatic perimeter player, who is also perceived to be playing hardball with contract negotiations.

He's not the kind of guy fans can easily connect with despite his production, and when he isn't producing at that ppg pace, he's not good enough at other facets of the game for people to easily overlook it (as has been the case recently). He's the type of player that will need to come through with some playoff heroics to shed the stigma from many fans. Getting a reasonable contract worked out without more drama would also endear him a bit more.

He's just a weird case overall.

I think the "stigma" is there is because he's not signed yet.

Everything else you mentioned does play a part but I can safely say the main issue is that he's not re-signed yet.

Once he's re-signed, much of the bitching of his struggles will be far less than it is now.

 

[My3Sons]

I think the "stigma" is there is because he's not signed yet.

Everything else you mentioned does play a part but I can safely say the main issue is that he's not re-signed yet.

Once he's re-signed, much of the bitching of his struggles will be far less than it is now.

It depends on the contract to some extent. There will be a few that complain a player making whatever he makes shoukd do more.

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[HBK27]

it wasnt even a 2nd, it was a 3rd!

I'm beyond frustrated that the Marino thread on the mainboards was closed.

This was the last post:

 

[HBK27]

 

[My3Sons]

I'm beyond frustrated that the Marino thread on the mainboards was closed.

This was the last post:

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That poster has a weird hatred for Marino’s game. He previously posted in tht NJ thread but then gave up. It seemed he couldn’t accept Marino as a good NHL defender at actually defending in his own end.

 

[HBK27]

Makes a bit more sense why we're seeing some AHL trades today:

 

[Saugus]

Makes a bit more sense why we're seeing some AHL trades today:

Still seem like really random trades, and I hadn't noticed this happening in previous years. Is the AHL trade deadline later this year than it usually is?

 

[Eggtimer]

And Chase Stillman.

Who is Chase playing for ? I thought it was the Pete’s ?

 

[Sdevils42]

The devils score 3.55 goals per game, good for fourth best in the entire league. The highest scoring team in the league score 0.3 goals more per game…or to put it another way, one extra goal every three games. How much more finishing do you possibly think they could have?

I don’t understand folks who think this is a problem.

Fair point. My initial post was the dominance in puck possession yet being kept in close games. I guess some of that is due to puck luck or probably what's more of a concern is the defense. Was very high on this group but recently it's been less than stellar. 7/71 come to mind recently, bad clearances and decisions have directly led to goals.

I cannot stress enough how badly Hugues looks off, very uncharacteristic turnovers and forced passes.

 

[NJDevs26]

Never even heard of our guy let alone the one we're getting back lol

 

[britdevil]

Seems odd to trade Dugan, he was Utica's 6th leading scorer.

 

[Bleedred]

Jack Dugan sounds like a special agent from some movie or TV series.

 

[Blackjack]

Never even heard of our guy let alone the one we're getting back lol

I've heard of Dugan because he was teammates with Tyce Thompson when they both had crazy good years at Providence.

 

[glenwo2]

It depends on the contract to some extent. There will be a few that complain a player making whatever he makes shoukd do more.

As long as it's 8 years (I'll even take 7), I don't give a sh*t how much it is.

But yeah...I fully expect the latter, too.

But the vitriol is enhanced because Bratt's not signed AND his agent is an absolute butt-nugget.

 

[NHL Fanatik]

As long as it's 8 years (I'll even take 7), I don't give a sh*t how much it is.

But yeah...I fully expect the latter, too.

But the vitriol is enhanced because Bratt's not signed AND his agent is an absolute butt-nugget.

In order to get him at 7-8 wed have to give him what hes asking for or slightly less

Thinking itll be a 5-6 year deal so it gets closer to Fitz' number

I dont think Fitz is willing yo go above 8m for Bratt and thats why he hadnt signed yet

 

[Saugus]

Jack Dugan sounds like a special agent from some movie or TV series.

Wasn't that the name of the US President in Red Alert 2?

 

[Bleedred]

Wasn't that the name of the US President in Red Alert 2?

Never seen it before, so I'm not sure, but it sure seems a typical name for a character like that.

 

[Blender]

Well those are definitely trades in the overall history of trades.

 

[Cheddabombs]

I can't hear or see someone type "oh my" without laughing now. I blame you degenerates and Dano.

Someone messaged oh my at work today and all I can think of was them saying it in Dano voice. "OH MY PARTNER!"

 

[Blender]

I can't hear or see someone type "oh my" without laughing now. I blame you degenerates and Dano.

Someone messaged oh my at work today and all I can think of was them saying it in Dano voice. "OH MY PARTNER!"

Laughing at a coworker for saying "oh my" sounds like dangerous doings. You should change up your angle for a more delicious work experience.

 

[Guttersniped]

Who is Chase playing for ? I thought it was the Pete’s ?

So I can’t read words on tickets.

And forgot that Stillman is in the OHL and Bedard is in the WHL and you live in Western Canada.

 

[glenwo2]

In order to get him at 7-8 wed have to give him what hes asking for or slightly less

Thinking itll be a 5-6 year deal so it gets closer to Fitz' number

I dont think Fitz is willing yo go above 8m for Bratt and thats why he hadnt signed yet

If that's the case, then Fitz is a liar 'cause I remember him stating he wanted Bratt here for a long time.

I also remember him stating that "Term was not an issue".


BTW, there's a nice article about this here :

Jesper Bratt and Timo Meier Will Make More Money than Jack Hughes, and that’s OK

The Devils have a tall task ahead of them as Bratt and Meier need new deals, but Hughes’s contract shouldn’t be the measuring stick.

www.allaboutthejersey.com

 

[NHL Fanatik]

If that's the case, then Fitz is a liar 'cause I remember him stating he wanted Bratt here for a long time.

I also remember him stating that "Term was not an issue".

Im not sure what you mean. Of course Fitz wants Bratt here long-term!

Term isnt an issue but if Bratt wants 8.5-9 over 7-8 years then idt thats going to happen. Im thinking Fitz wants him at 8 or lower and will sacrifice term for it.

Either way getting Bratt signed for four more years is a win itself. Whatever extra in terms of saved AAV or more years is gravy IMO