You're not concerned that the Devils once again go into the season with no true #1 defenseman?
Would have thought that would've been the top priority. Seems like for the most part they've shuffled the deck chairs on the Titanic. While spending more money to do so.
I think another part is Luke and Nemec coming into a team that was a train wreck last season so people who were thinking “high draft pick should dominate from day 1” are now wary that they’re both not as good as advertised.The disparity in the drafting and developing confidence is interesting. I wonder how much is the rest of the league still viewing Bratt/Hischier/Hughes as young up-and-comers, where as to us they feel like 10 year veterans (Hischier’s about to start his 8th season ).
i dont think anyone’s thinking that second thing. All the sentiments ive seen around Shane Wright are pretty negative, mostly based around the fact that he couldnt stick with the Kraken OR hit a ppg pace in the AHL last season.I think another part is Luke and Nemec coming into a team that was a train wreck last season so people who were thinking “high draft pick should dominate from day 1” are now wary that they’re both not as good as advertised.
I think you see this about around the Internet, that Luke can’t play any defense and Nemec isn’t Wright. Things that, for me, seem odd to think after watching them play.
Oh no, definitely scour the hot takes comments on Facebook and you’ll find the people who don’t follow hockey that much but know Wright should have been taken over Nemec and they won’t change their mind until the Devils both win and Nemec is an all-star.i dont think anyone’s thinking that second thing. All the sentiments ive seen around Shane Wright are pretty negative, mostly based around the fact that he couldnt stick with the Kraken OR hit a ppg pace in the AHL last season.
The disparity in the drafting and developing confidence is interesting. I wonder how much is the rest of the league still viewing Bratt/Hischier/Hughes as young up-and-comers, where as to us they feel like 10 year veterans (Hischier’s about to start his 8th season ).
I’m not generally against what you’re saying but I think it’s also overstated.From all of Fitz’s tenure, I don’t think we will be surprised by any skater from round 3 onward at all. It has been Lou-esque. What has it been, just Vilen and Filmon showing a bit of promise?
I just can’t get behind all the low ceiling big boy picks. I want to see a major change in the philosophy there. Think of it in terms of trade capital and not roster fit. Why take a low percentage shot when the best of these kinds of players get filtered out at the NHL levels and can be traded for with Shara, Grits, Bratt-type picks?
I was fine with it until the Fletcher thing happened. Just really soured my opinion on him. I don't care if he ends up being a nothing, he shouldn't even have been hired, period.
I’m not generally against what you’re saying but I think it’s also overstated.
The last statement makes it seem like it’s easy to find valuable scoring wingers late in the draft, rather than the Devils got lucky a few times. You can get lucky and surprised with types of players other than scoring wingers too.
Maybe they got lucky with Cam Squires or Orlov? Who knows yet.
Even if the Devils only ended up with Filmon and Vilen becoming more just a guy then that would be pretty awesome late round drafting over the last 4 years.
I think it’s hard not to say Holtz was mishandled, even if you think he isn’t an NHL player.There's a valid argument that Holtz was mishandled - not sure I'd agree with it, but the argument could definitely be made.
I think there can be interesting discussion on if that’s a helpful measuring stick for late round picks.It's overstated, I agree, but I've always thought the measure of success for the late rounds is picking guys who have pro careers in second-tier leagues and the Devils really aren't doing great in that area lately.
When you said trainwreck I was expecting it to have plummeted from 1st to like 15th or lower haha.This will probably end in a train wreck but...
For those without a sub the Devils are #7, down from #1 a year ago.
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This will probably end in a train wreck but...
For those without a sub the Devils are #7, down from #1 a year ago.
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I know nothing about Fletcher
what is public and what time period is this for?
For 82 games in a season at barely ten minutes a night?He was never mishandled. He's just not good. Parise played on the fourth line.
The issue to me is that Devils hopefully are graduating from picking top 10 in the draft and as such need to figure out an approach to the draft that will keep the team stocked.I think there can be interesting discussion on if that’s a helpful measuring stick for late round picks.
All these late round picks are total crapshoots so the only thing that truly matters, NHL impact, is so rare that measuring results is extremely difficult.
Does a player carving out a career as a third liner in the Swedish Hockey league make them having been a better shot at the draft than a guy who became an accountant? Probably, but the team ended up with nothing worthwhile either way.
If my late round picks are all boom or bust then does it matter that some bust slightly less than others?
I do think the Devils have been limiting their “boom” potential by taking guys who are low offense but they may not be limiting their number of guys providing NHL benefit that much; tough to tell in the short term.
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I personally agree the Devils should take the big boom chance at offensive guys with flaws late in the draft but want to provide some Devils Advocacy on how I see the other side of the coin.