Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part III

[TheUnseenHand]

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Dano Meme'd after one post. That has to be a record.

 

[Hisch13r]

Yeay - Cute story - 30 points - Not what we needed.

Look, I would LOVE to play for the Devils too. Doesn't mean I should.

I'm sort of crapping on this move but he could do some damage, I guess. I just expect to be Haula-Level frustrated with 2 guys this year just like I was last year (Tatar in for Smith)

I'll take the 30 pts if he's giving us the two way playdriving he can for just 1.8 mil. Rather have that over a guy like Duclair who will definitely produce next to the stars but is also a defensive blackhole. I would've preferred to spend the extra mil on Roslovic for the C/W versatility but Tatar's a solid add.

 

[Devil X]

Yeay - Cute story - 30 points - Not what we needed.

Look, I would LOVE to play for the Devils too. Doesn't mean I should.

I'm sort of crapping on this move but he could do some damage, I guess. I just expect to be Haula-Level frustrated with 2 guys this year just like I was last year (Tatar in for Smith)

Except Tatar can actually provide some offense and defense. Where as Smith was basically a PK specialist who played forward and D for us because we didnt have enough good PK defenseman.

He was over used for what he was supposed to be frankly.

No clue how it will turn out but if he comes back and is able to work with Nico the same way that will be a crazy line, if Tatar Nico and Timo can find it.

Nico's best season to date was with Tatar mostly on his line.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Dano Meme'd after one post. That has to be a record.

Hopefully avatar worthy as well

 

[My3Sons]

Dano Meme'd after one post. That has to be a record.

@NjDevsRR is the Lighthouse of Dano meme posters.

 

[devilsblood]

I think McGroarty should continue to be a target for Fitz this offseason. It seems WPG pretty much has to trade him.

I don't really know his game but I've heard him described as a power fwd, at a listed 6'1" 200lb's I'd say that's a sturdy enough build, and I also see he topped Michigan fwd's with 36 assists(Casey topped him with 38). General consensus is we could use a pwr fwd alongside Jack, but Timo's game doesn't especially jive. Guys like Noesen and Cotter are not ideal top line fwds. @Triumph posited the idea that Jack needs passers on his wing, given those assist #'s, I think McGroarty fits the bill on that front as well.

Meanwhile we have a complete logjam of righty d-men at the NHL level, and Casey should not be more then a year off from getting NHL games. Despite WPG trading from a position of weakness, I do think we'd probably have to add, but we have a bunch of picks that we could include to make this a pretty fair deal from WPG's perspective.

Definitely a risk penciling a rookie into the top 6, but he's 2 years from his draft year and as noted has a solid build and has performed quite well at the college level, if the scouts like his game I think this is a move that Fitz should look to pursue.

 

[NjDevsRR]

I agree that I still see one more splash by Fitz before camp

 

[devilsblood]

In all seriousness though, improving the depth should greatly improve the forward group. We are at our best when we can roll 4 lines and none of them are a major negative.

We had wayyyy too many games last year where we had to short the bench because too many players couldn't be trusted to take a regular shift when something was on the line, although a big part of that is score effect.

I don't want to see Jack getting like 8 minutes in the 3rd period because half the roster can't pull their weight. Guys like Noesen, Tatar, and Cotter should all help with that.

I think we could roll 3 and have a goon 4th and still be OK, as long as the 3rd line is strong enough. Big problem last year was for much of the season our 3rd line was a bad 4th line. I think if we can roll a strong top 9, we can still be successful even with a limited toi 4th line.

Now I say this because Mac is signed for 3 years and I figure he gets a fair amount of games, but the Devils have not played him much more then 5 mpg, and I'd rather not see him play more then 5 mpg. Of course we could double shift a winger so the rest of the 4th line can play more along the lines of 9-10 mpg.

 

[dgibb10]

4C is a need:

My targets:

Jake Evans (1 year 1.7 mill), Nico Sturm (1 year 2 mill), Ryan Mcleod (1 year 2.1 mill+RFA control), Lars Eller (1 year 2.45 mill), David Kampf (3 years 2.4 mill), Peyton Krebs (1 year 900k+RFA control).

In terms of longer term I might even target some C prospects, where we are very barren.

This I'm less familiar with but I like Beck in MTL and Wahlberg in Buffalo.

What are the rest of our thoughts? Any targets I'm missing (especially prospects).

 

[My3Sons]

4C is a need:

My targets:

Jake Evans (1 year 1.7 mill), Nico Sturm (1 year 2 mill), Ryan Mcleod (1 year 2.1 mill+RFA control), Lars Eller (1 year 2.45 mill), David Kampf (3 years 2.4 mill), Peyton Krebs (1 year 900k+RFA control).

In terms of longer term I might even target some C prospects, where we are very barren.

This I'm less familiar with but I like Beck in MTL and Wahlberg in Buffalo.

What are the rest of our thoughts? Any targets I'm missing (especially prospects).

I know some Toronto fans have said Keefe has a thing for Kampf so that might be realistic. I struggle to see the team adding another McLeod but maybe I’m being harsh.

 

[dgibb10]

I know some Toronto fans have said Keefe has a thing for Kampf so that might be realistic. I struggle to see the team adding another McLeod but maybe I’m being harsh.

I 100% see what you mean about Mcleod.

I don't know if the team would do it from a PR perspective.

But you do have to admit he would fit like a glove at 3C or 4C.

I'd be fine with kampf, but I'd want him as a cap dump, or salary retained.

To us: Kampf (1.2 mill)
To toronto: FC
To 3rd team: 3rd from us, 3rd from toronto to retain 50%.

 

[devilsblood]

I agree that I still see one more splash by Fitz before camp

The flipside of potentially trading Casey, is keeping him and trading Nemec.

How bonkers would this board get if Fitz traded Nemec for Brady Tkachuk?

I know that's one of those rumors that doesn't get much traction on this board, and the outlets where it does get traction do tend to be of the extreme loudmouth variety , but it does make sense. If Ottawa has a bad season, then I could see Tkachuk making a stink, and forcing Ottawa's hand. There is no player that fits the mold Fitz has tried to build this team into more then Tkachuk. Watching M Tkachuk win a cup probably makes this more enticing to Fitz. There is also the whole Brady Girlfriend/house on the Shore aspect as well as the US factor, ie having Brady and the Hughes brothers starring in the next couple Olympics bringing one heck of a national spotlight on the team. I think that is something ticket sellers could work with, not just for the regular fans, but the big money/corporate buyers as well.

4C is a need:

My targets:

Jake Evans (1 year 1.7 mill), Nico Sturm (1 year 2 mill), Ryan Mcleod (1 year 2.1 mill+RFA control), Lars Eller (1 year 2.45 mill), David Kampf (3 years 2.4 mill), Peyton Krebs (1 year 900k+RFA control).

In terms of longer term I might even target some C prospects, where we are very barren.

This I'm less familiar with but I like Beck in MTL and Wahlberg in Buffalo.

What are the rest of our thoughts? Any targets I'm missing (especially prospects).

Is there even room for another add?

 

[Nubmer6]

The flipside of potentially trading Casey, is keeping him and trading Nemec.

How bonkers would this board get if Fitz traded Nemec for Brady Tkachuk?

I know that's one of those rumors that doesn't get much traction on this board, and the outlets where it does get traction do tend to be of the extreme loudmouth variety , but it does make sense. If Ottawa has a bad season, then I could see Tkachuk making a stink, and forcing Ottawa's hand. There is no player that fits the mold Fitz has tried to build this team into more then Tkachuk. Watching M Tkachuk win a cup probably makes this more enticing to Fitz. There is also the whole Brady Girlfriend/house on the Shore aspect as well as the US factor, ie having Brady and the Hughes brothers starring in the next couple Olympics bringing one heck of a national spotlight on the team. I think that is something ticket sellers could work with, not just for the regular fans, but the big money/corporate buyers as well.


Is there even room for another add?

I think that's way over-valuing Brady.

 

[devilsblood]

I think that's way over-valuing Brady.

Is it? 100 goals the last 3 years. Big and physical. Doesn't miss games. 25 years old. Signed for 3 years beyond this upcoming season.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

So I came across something that either hasn’t been formally announced or was only a very quiet addition and won’t be announced.

But Manny Legace is now listed on the Devils website as head amateur goalie scout/development coach. Not sure how new this is, as he’s not listed as working anywhere in 23-24 on elite prospects, but last worked as the goalie coach for the Blue Jackets in 22-23.

I’m starting to remember maybe this was something we discussed months ago? Or maybe I’m just imagining that now after the fact that I saw him in the team directory?

I’m not sure who had this role before he did or if it’s a new position.

i definitely don’t remember hearing anything about Legace being hired, i would’ve come straight here to post about it lol.

Interesting that it hasn’t really been touched on by any of our newer, snoopier media. I wonder how recently the site was changed.

 

[Nubmer6]

Is it? 100 goals the last 3 years. Big and physical. Doesn't miss games. 25 years old. Signed for 3 years beyond this upcoming season.

At the same time he broken 1ppg only once, and that was an 83 points in 82 games. Similar (but slightly better) stats to Meier.

If I'm trading Nemec, I'd want his brother, not him, especially considering the premium position (RHD vs wing).

 

[Devs3cups]

Nemec isn’t moving, nor should he. Young, cost-controlled, elite RD for the future. Pillar for years to come.

 

[RSeen]

4C is a need:

My targets:

Jake Evans (1 year 1.7 mill), Nico Sturm (1 year 2 mill), Ryan Mcleod (1 year 2.1 mill+RFA control), Lars Eller (1 year 2.45 mill), David Kampf (3 years 2.4 mill), Peyton Krebs (1 year 900k+RFA control).

In terms of longer term I might even target some C prospects, where we are very barren.

This I'm less familiar with but I like Beck in MTL and Wahlberg in Buffalo.

What are the rest of our thoughts? Any targets I'm missing (especially prospects).

We have Lazar.

 

[dgibb10]

The flipside of potentially trading Casey, is keeping him and trading Nemec.

How bonkers would this board get if Fitz traded Nemec for Brady Tkachuk?

I know that's one of those rumors that doesn't get much traction on this board, and the outlets where it does get traction do tend to be of the extreme loudmouth variety , but it does make sense. If Ottawa has a bad season, then I could see Tkachuk making a stink, and forcing Ottawa's hand. There is no player that fits the mold Fitz has tried to build this team into more then Tkachuk. Watching M Tkachuk win a cup probably makes this more enticing to Fitz. There is also the whole Brady Girlfriend/house on the Shore aspect as well as the US factor, ie having Brady and the Hughes brothers starring in the next couple Olympics bringing one heck of a national spotlight on the team. I think that is something ticket sellers could work with, not just for the regular fans, but the big money/corporate buyers as well.


Is there even room for another add?

Matthew Tkachuk is a 100 point type, 40 goal caliber, excellent defensive player.
Brady Tkachuk is a 80 point type, 35 goal caliber, poor defensive player.

Brady Tkachuk is much closer to Timo Meier than he is Matthew Tkachuk.

 

[britdevil]

I'd be furious if Fitz traded Nemec for Brady.

#1 D >>>>>>>>>> 1st line W.

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

I’m following the fringe signings way too closely, unfortunately.

Centers still available (like it matters lol)
Riley Damiani 24 C
Rourke Chartier 28 C
Peter Abbandonato 26 C
Frederik Olofsson 28 C/LW {Veteran >320 GP}
Oskar Steen 26 C/RW {Veteran >320 GP}

Abandoned Peter. Hopefully for not too long. Keep your chin up.

 

[Bleedred]

i definitely don’t remember hearing anything about Legace being hired, i would’ve come straight here to post about it lol.

Interesting that it hasn’t really been touched on by any of our newer, snoopier media. I wonder how recently the site was changed.

One other thing I find interesting, though I’m pretty sure it’s been this way for the 9 years he’s been working here. I don’t even see Scott Clemmensen’s name listed in the directory on the official team site as a team employee of any kind.

At first I thought maybe Legace took that over and the two main guys are now Brodeur and Legace instead of Brodeur and Clemmensen lol. Then I remembered from the past that he’s never been listed and I thought once before, years ago that he was not working here anymore cause he wasn’t listed. But that turned out to not be the case.

 

[Devil X]

4C is a need:

My targets:

Jake Evans (1 year 1.7 mill), Nico Sturm (1 year 2 mill), Ryan Mcleod (1 year 2.1 mill+RFA control), Lars Eller (1 year 2.45 mill), David Kampf (3 years 2.4 mill), Peyton Krebs (1 year 900k+RFA control).

In terms of longer term I might even target some C prospects, where we are very barren.

This I'm less familiar with but I like Beck in MTL and Wahlberg in Buffalo.

What are the rest of our thoughts? Any targets I'm missing (especially prospects).

We dont know how much we have until Mercer re-signs.

The only way to fit any of these guys is to either get them to take league min or move Bastian in favor and pay them whatever Fitz and squeeze in there behind Mercer.

Beside as someone else mention we have Lazar and I think the Devils are perfectly fine with him as the 4C.

 

[devilsblood]

Matthew Tkachuk is a 100 point type, 40 goal caliber, excellent defensive player.
Brady Tkachuk is a 80 point type, 35 goal caliber, poor defensive player.

Brady Tkachuk is much closer to Timo Meier than he is Matthew Tkachuk.

Matt didn't crack 40 goals or 100 points till his 6th season in the league. Prior to that his career high was 34 goals and 77 points. Levels Brady has already eclipsed.

Last 3 seasons Matt has 109 goals. Brady 102.

I wonder how much of Brady's "defensive woes" are playing on a crap team.

Beside as someone else mention we have Lazar and I think the Devils are perfectly fine with him as the 4C.

Except we saw very little of Lazar as a center last year.

Not that I'm against the idea, just the Devils haven't shown they are gung ho for it.

 

[Nubmer6]

Beside as someone else mention we have Lazar and I think the Devils are perfectly fine with him as the 4C.

Problem is we have no one behind him. We REALLY need to sign an AHL-NHL tweener or two we can call up in case of emergencies. I have no confidence in who we have in Utica right now, and anyway, they could use a decent center down there.