Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part III

[Billdo]

I like Lazar. Guy seems like a real team player and is involved in the community as well.

 

[NjDevsRR]

He's awesome.

 

[Brodeur]

yes, he was awesome in the movie pump up the volume

Filmed at my high school!

 

[njdevils1982]

Filmed at my high school!

talk hard

 

[TBF1972]

Well hey....she can also wear it, too, then.

that was probably her plan from the start

 

[MadDevil]

So does this increase or decrease the chances of the EA cover curse striking?

 

[Billdo]

So does this increase or decrease the chances of the EA cover curse striking?

When we play Van all three will collide and be done for the year.

 

[glenwo2]

that was probably her plan from the start

I'll bet.

 

[AfroThunder396]

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Casey + 2nd is what I assume our offer was for Askarov?

 

[Blackjack]

Casey + 2nd is what I assume our offer was for Askarov?

I was prepared to be annoyed that we didn’t get him, but SJ is hoping for an early 1st, just outside the top 10. Or, even better, an unprotected 2026 1st. I don’t think Casey moves the needle here. They would have wanted Silayev or Mercer.

Edit: apparently it was Vegas’s 1st. Okay, I’m a little annoyed, but whatever

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I was prepared to be annoyed that we didn’t get him, but SJ is hoping for an early 1st, just outside the top 10. Or, even better, an unprotected 2026 1st. I don’t think Casey moves the needle here. They would have wanted Silayev or Mercer.

Indeed, I posted that before the details came out so that's on me a bit lol. But yeah, I don't disagree that something big from us would've had to move the needle. I'm sure Fitz just did his due diligence and Trotz asked for something absurd (within his right to do so) and that's where the convo went

 

[dgibb10]

I wonder if Bratt is always on Nico's wing for this?

I figure Tatar was in the previous 2 years.

22-23 was Tatar-Hischier-Mercer

 

[Devils731]

I do enjoy the Hughes’ boys deadpans while giving interviews versus how they act when there is even a modicum of privacy.

 

[StevenToddIves]

Filmed at my high school!

Awesome movie

 

[Nocashstyle]

Casey + 2nd is what I assume our offer was for Askarov?

If that was the case, Askarov would be a Devil

 

[Forge]

If that was the case, Askarov would be a Devil

Not sure about that, but I do think that the offer is comparable to what they returned

 

[Nocashstyle]

Not sure about that, but I do think that the offer is comparable to what they returned

I don’t think so. Solely based on Casey >> Vegas conditional 1st. Casey is a more known quantity that has done nothing but raise his value since being drafted. The Vegas pick is probably a late first. Edstrom looks like he could potentially establish some type of NHL career, so > 2nd round pick.

The ECHL goalie doesn’t do anything.

 

[Devils731]

I don’t think so. Solely based on Casey >> Vegas conditional 1st. Casey is a more known quantity that has done nothing but raise his value since being drafted. The Vegas pick is probably a late first. Edstrom looks like he could potentially establish some type of NHL career, so > 2nd round pick.

The ECHL goalie doesn’t do anything.

Just my opinion, I don’t think you can get the Vegas first round pick for Casey.

Casey has done great in college and I’m excited to see him this year but he’s still on the small side for a defender so a lot of the same questions about how could he transition to the NHL in the future remain.

I think teams would rather roll the dice on a late first round pick which has some potential to be a mid to early pick than lock in on Casey and have to worry if his size is too detrimental at the NHL level. I think a good AHL season this year will improve his stock in a way that his good college years just can’t.

 

[Forge]

I don’t think so. Solely based on Casey >> Vegas conditional 1st. Casey is a more known quantity that has done nothing but raise his value since being drafted. The Vegas pick is probably a late first. Edstrom looks like he could potentially establish some type of NHL career, so > 2nd round pick.

The ECHL goalie doesn’t do anything.

Casey is not everyone's cup of tea.

6'3, 200+ pound middle six centers are pretty much everyone's cup of tea

Then you have the upside of the first versus the second.

Definitely think it's a comparable offer, but could easily see a team preferring the sharks offer

 

[Xirik]

@Forge Who said you could change your Avatar/PFP?

 

[Nubmer6]

Casey is not everyone's cup of tea.

6'3, 200+ pound middle six centers are pretty much everyone's cup of tea

Then you have the upside of the first versus the second.

Definitely think it's a comparable offer, but could easily see a team preferring the sharks offer

I thought the Sharks needed D more than forwards. Maybe they don't value Casey as much as we do, or we never offered him.

 

[dgibb10]

I thought the Sharks needed D more than forwards. Maybe they don't value Casey as much as we do, or we never offered him.

We'd have been trading with Nashville not SJS. Nashville very much needs centers

 

[Nocashstyle]

Just my opinion, I don’t think you can get the Vegas first round pick for Casey.

Casey has done great in college and I’m excited to see him this year but he’s still on the small side for a defender so a lot of the same questions about how could he transition to the NHL in the future remain.

I think teams would rather roll the dice on a late first round pick which has some potential to be a mid to early pick than lock in on Casey and have to worry if his size is too detrimental at the NHL level. I think a good AHL season this year will improve his stock in a way that his good college years just can’t.

To each their own. But I think Casey has a better chance at becoming an NHL player than an 18 year old at 25th overall

 

[Nubmer6]

We'd have been trading with Nashville not SJS. Nashville very much needs centers

Ya, oops