Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - camp edition

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JimEIV

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It's easier to just pretend things are the way you think they are then use logic
He's been here for 120 games and has multiple long stretches with no goals and no impact.

His first year here was injured and only played 49 games...in those 49 games he had a 10 and 18 game stretches of no goals..On a team that had goals coming out of the ears....ok scratched it up to injuries. He missed nearly 3 months cut him a break..seems reasonable.

The following year he starts the season with 15 game goalless streak...So now we're 64 games into his Devil career, with a 10 game, an 18 game and a 15 game goalless streaks...and it only gets worse over the next 56 games he's played...

if you look at the end of the 2022-23 season from 3/9/23 into the beginning of the 2023-24 season through 11/16/2023 Palat went 33 consecutive games without a goal. to that point he only played 64 games here. That's some Cory Schneider level shit.

The problem so often with any matrix is the assumption that the a good or decent number achieved in a limited role equates to someone in a larger more difficult role. The assumption is if Palat got the same opportunity as say Hischier he would've scored about 20 5v5 goals based GF/60 (or any rate stat)... it's nonsense but that is the implication of the numbers and anyone with eyesight could see that would never be true for a multitude of reasons... Foremost, if a scrub like Palat was getting the same opportunity as a Hischier your team would be in deep shit and those numbers would revert rather quickly.

I don't know, I think my reasoning is a helluva lot more "logical" than blindly believing some dumb matrix or "player card" is actually telling you anything substantive about a guy who goes months without a goal regularly since he's been a Devil?
 
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Whaddagoal

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I didn't get to watch the game much yesterday, can anyone explain what happened to hatakka?

I was hoping he would stay healthy... A lot of opportunity for him so far the way this season started.
 

TheUnseenHand

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I didn't get to watch the game much yesterday, can anyone explain what happened to hatakka?

I was hoping he would stay healthy... A lot of opportunity for him so far the way this season started.

I didn't notice. It certainly wasn't a physical game. I don't remember him really getting hit or anything.

My guess is whatever Haula had might be making it's way around the locker room.
 

AfroThunder396

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To criticize Palat's regular season performance in calendar year 2023 while ignoring his stellar 2023 playoff performance - tied for 2nd on the team in playoff points, including assisting on a Game 7 winner against NYR - is to ignore the entire reason he was brought into this team.

He is essentially an overpaid role player at this point, which is not ideal, but that role is still really important for winning games.

Would I like it if he had more points? Yeah, of course. Would I like it if his cap hit was 1.5M lower? Yeah, of course. But we have plenty of guys with pretty scoring numbers and pretty cap hits. As long as he shows up in the playoffs and can help close out games I can live with it.
 

Maine Fan

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I had a little bit of an idea... @Guttersniped and @Maine Fan do you each have a favorite watering hole? What if we called said spot, after a big win, we reserved a beer for you all? Get's you out there, celebrating a win and we can all send them from "Jack Mehoff" or "Jacques Strappe". Hopefully covers a couple drinks with friends. I'll buy a couple rounds for both of you if you give me location and let that location know they're going to be hearing from a weirdo.
Thank you very much for your generous offer. While I would love to have an alcoholic drink with you, the medication I take can not be mixed. I would love to have a diet coke with you. I live in Monmouth County, Ocean Grove. I am moving there on October 8th. 2 walking blocks from the Ocean, how nice is that. I have a hotel room with a kitchenette until May 8, 2025. I have difficulty walking and going out so this would have to be a planned event so I can find transportation both ways before leaving my place. Thank you again. If I misread the post it is OK. Go Devils
 

Maine Fan

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The board is going through some stuff this year. Feeling for you @Guttersniped, @Jerry, and @Maine Fan. I know thoughts and prayers are useless but I value the community we have here. Best wishes.

Thank you for your thoughts. I enjoy the board and the Devils fans on this board. I am alone. So this allows me to talk with someone about the Devils even though it is not in person. Thanks to all the people that make this forum available to me. Thanks to all the fans that interact with me. I don't feel alone and I can talk about the Devils.
 

Maine Fan

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Was it because Dawson's contract was so sweet?
I like having him signed with the Devils. The real reason for the broken tooth is age 88 years young. I always chew in that area. It was the tooth in the back. They had to take it out. I am on blood thinners. It bleed all weekend, stopped now, thank God, sore and a mess. Getting better.
 

SteveCangialosi123

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To criticize Palat's regular season performance in calendar year 2023 while ignoring his stellar 2023 playoff performance - tied for 2nd on the team in playoff points, including assisting on a Game 7 winner against NYR - is to ignore the entire reason he was brought into this team.

He is essentially an overpaid role player at this point, which is not ideal, but that role is still really important for winning games.

Would I like it if he had more points? Yeah, of course. Would I like it if his cap hit was 1.5M lower? Yeah, of course. But we have plenty of guys with pretty scoring numbers and pretty cap hits. As long as he shows up in the playoffs and can help close out games I can live with it.
He also led the team in xGF% last year and was one of just a handful of regulars that had a positive goal differential at 5 on 5. He can still help the team even if he’s overpaid.
 

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