Yes and at what cost....If this is a step back "growth year" we should embrace it and act accordingly....Sure if we deal players for assets we can use them in future for an immediate upgrade or to take a spot of someone we simply won't be able to afford....Sometimes best thing is to show patience don't make a trade out of desperation this year that could cause us to really regret in the future....
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Bahl was playing much better than Graves at the end of last year, and I would absolutely take Luke over Severson right now
Nemec is a future stud dman .....
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You should go on the main board and hang out with Guffman if you have a Hellebuyck fixation.
I don't think it's that the analytics people are telling Lindy what system to run. It's more that they have a style they want, and told Fitz and Fitz hired a coach that also fits that. So if they were to get a new coach, it'd just be the same thing, if that is indeed what is happening here. Probably better reflects what @NJDevs26 is worried about.
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Bahl played better at the end of last season because he was playing on the 3rd pair with Severson.
Whaddagoal
The Sheldon Keefe Era Begins
I am back down to 5... a couple wins next week will bring it to 3
I'm starting to believe Ruff's role last year was really just to be a cheerleader / supporter for the players and brunnette was the tactician. When the team has no one who knows wtf they're doing regarding the actual in-game systems, a cheerleader can only do so much to motivate / manage the players.
We did see it, for like 3 games. Exactly what some of us have been saying. When they tightened up defensively, goaltending wasn't the issue, but they weren't amazing either. They were just average. So yea, with a better system, there's no real need to go get another goalie and similarly, getting some similar level goalie in this garbage system is not gunna be pretty.
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"The devils D and Goalies suck!"
"Well the D isnt that bad its the goalies that are the biggest problem and we have stats and everything to back it up!"
"The D is the problem!"
"Well the D isnt that bad its the goalies that are the biggest problem and we have stats and everything to back it up!"
"The D is the problem!"
theoptimist
Keep Siegenthaler
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Mr Bojanglez
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i think this Christmas Break is needed big time.
Glad Timo is almost back fully. A couple days off will only help.
Feel like Luke could use some rest - guy has taken a bunch of pain so far this year.
What's the deal with Miller? Is he getting healthy-scratched for Smith?
Glad Timo is almost back fully. A couple days off will only help.
Feel like Luke could use some rest - guy has taken a bunch of pain so far this year.
What's the deal with Miller? Is he getting healthy-scratched for Smith?
millers wife had a baby! that’s why he was out. hope he gets back into lineup after xmas.
Well Bahl this year is not better than Graves last year and Luke is not better than Severson. Luke may be better by next year but as of now, he definitely is not.
I don't disagree with what you are saying but hard not to go for it given the talent on this team.
Devils won with Smith in the lineup. That might mean Miller sits until a few more lossss happen
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I would say Luke is both better than Severson and playing a more important role. Severson was a sheltered 3rd pairing dman when everyone was healthy last year. Marino played the toughest minutes on the team (with Graves) and Severson dominated soft matchups. Graves held up better than Bahl with those tough minutes. I’d also say Nemec is very clearly better than Graves at hockey.
JK3
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I can’t blame Luke and Nemec much at all, they’re kids.
Marino and Siegs have been up and down to just outright bad. I think Seigs has been the worst overall. Smith is Smith, he has some value with the PK and being our elite fourth liner lol.
Not having Dougie isn’t helping either to push someone down and eat up a bunch of minutes.
Marino and Siegs have been up and down to just outright bad. I think Seigs has been the worst overall. Smith is Smith, he has some value with the PK and being our elite fourth liner lol.
Not having Dougie isn’t helping either to push someone down and eat up a bunch of minutes.
Emperoreddy
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Marino has been playing better. It's siegs and Smith sucking massive wind most nights.
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Nemec has come in as a 19 year old kid and handled his minutes better than I thought he would, and I was already very high on him. He's playing on the PP, on the PK and is constantly one of the biggest minute eaters on the team. Just last night, he was our 2nd highest D-man in TOI in all situations, and he was leading the team in 5v5 minutes. He's been very impressive.
I've liked what Luke brings too already. Talked about him a lot, but his skating, offensive skill/instincts are awesome at such a young age and he's been better defensively than I thought he would.
Both of these guys being so good at such a young age bodes really well for the future. They complement each other extremely well as well. Super exciting to know they'll be our top guys on D for years to come. Apparently, they're becoming good buddies too!
I've liked what Luke brings too already. Talked about him a lot, but his skating, offensive skill/instincts are awesome at such a young age and he's been better defensively than I thought he would.
Both of these guys being so good at such a young age bodes really well for the future. They complement each other extremely well as well. Super exciting to know they'll be our top guys on D for years to come. Apparently, they're becoming good buddies too!
How is Carolina still so damn high? They’re right where we are with even worse goaltending.
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There's a simple solution for Smith, you just don't play him. I'm not sure how he made it back into the lineup last night after we allowed like 12 goals the game before that and lost, all the while Miller was back at practice the day before and all indications were he was available to play.
With Siegs we're pretty much screwed, until he can at least start playing at an adequate level again.
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Devils fans are/were never really fair to Severson!
I dont think Luke has played better than Damon in their respective seasons. That just seems like being nice to the young guy for the sake of being a supportive fan
Luke has had most of the teams worst defensive zone turnovers this season; even if outside of that hes been impressive. Damon was very polished last year and was a big proponent in us having the season we had
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Severson was good, but he was a third pairing guy for a decent amount of last year.
We have better defensemen than him this year, we just don’t have better defensemen than him (or even as good) to put on our bottom pair this year.
Severson is better than Smith, Miller, Bahl. Smith and Bahl seemed to be swapped in and out for each other a lot last year (if I’m not mistaken?) and Smith of this year is definitely worse than Smith of last year and he’s mostly been a regular, due to Miller’s poor preseason, then getting injured for a while and now the birth of a child and not being able to get back in over Smith his first game back available.
Graves is also better than those last three guys.
We have better defensemen than him this year, we just don’t have better defensemen than him (or even as good) to put on our bottom pair this year.
Severson is better than Smith, Miller, Bahl. Smith and Bahl seemed to be swapped in and out for each other a lot last year (if I’m not mistaken?) and Smith of this year is definitely worse than Smith of last year and he’s mostly been a regular, due to Miller’s poor preseason, then getting injured for a while and now the birth of a child and not being able to get back in over Smith his first game back available.
Graves is also better than those last three guys.
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